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Pharzeone
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2/11/2010  9:34 PM
playa2 wrote:Comparing D.lee this yr with Zach Randolph is slightly misleading. Randolph at 6"8 6"9 plays PF against guys at his position. D.lee has played against Centers all yr long which is a major advantage for him because he doesn't play defense anyway.

Z-Bo is often used to guard centers do but not as much this year obviously.

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2/11/2010  9:47 PM
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rjv3 wrote:Does anyone think Lee might be able to hold his own on d better at the 4 spot, it must get old and tiring being out sized every game ?

That's the problem too because when Zeke played him at the 4 he had issues with his post defense. This isn't something new. He had issues at guarding the 3 when Brown used him as such.

Thats true. I'm a big fan of Lee, but its getting old watching him actually move out of the way for anyone driving the lane. But he has grown so much every year, I would like to see how he does at the 4 spot again and paired with a defensive big. But either way glad he made the AS team as he deserved it with all his hard work and hustle.

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2/11/2010  9:54 PM
why do you act like he is the only one that doesnt play defense. Not one player on this team rebounds but Lee. Wish someone else would pad there stats and rebound. Do you really think Gallinari is a good defender or Harrington, or Wilson, or duhon?
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2/11/2010  10:11 PM
rjv3 wrote:Does anyone think Lee might be able to hold his own on d better at the 4 spot, it must get old and tiring being out sized every game ?

To me, he looks better when their playing zone defense than when they're playing man to man.

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2/11/2010  10:13 PM
I was hoping for more out of Lee. Lee has improved his offense every year, I have hoped he would also work on becoming a better defender. The only Knicks to play any d every night would be Jefferies and sometimes Hughes. Its not like I'm expecting him to become a lock down defender over night, but what I would expect is for him to make attempts at help d and stop moving out of the way every time someone is heading for the hoop.
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2/11/2010  10:16 PM
this is awesome.. i'm so happy for dave, he's had a great year. i do agree that he needs to improve his defense, but he deserves to be on the AS team this year, no doubt.
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2/11/2010  10:22 PM
If the Knicks had a legitimate 7 footer in there playing next to Lee--not one person would say a word about his so-called bad D. What you see is positions 4-5 very frequently overwhelming him with size combination---I asked the question who is our 4-5--right we dont have one--we play a PF two SF a wing and a PG. I don't see how people are so blind to this. Put a Dikemebe Mutumbo in his prime next to Lee and no one would say a word other than lee is a physical 4 with a lot of skills. Stupidest thing I have to read on a daily basis--David Lee scks at D--no the Knicks sck at D because they accept being very small.
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2/11/2010  10:55 PM
Players like Zack and Lee in all-star game illustrates that NBA had changed.
Defense is cool for hard-core fans but for majority of public watching the game our times it is boring.
Congrads to Lee and I expect him to improve in defence next year. Not sure he will be a Knick or not, but he knows what he is doing.
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2/11/2010  11:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/11/2010  11:08 PM
BRIGGS wrote:If the Knicks had a legitimate 7 footer in there playing next to Lee--not one person would say a word about his so-called bad D. What you see is positions 4-5 very frequently overwhelming him with size combination---I asked the question who is our 4-5--right we dont have one--we play a PF two SF a wing and a PG. I don't see how people are so blind to this. Put a Dikemebe Mutumbo in his prime next to Lee and no one would say a word other than lee is a physical 4 with a lot of skills. Stupidest thing I have to read on a daily basis--David Lee scks at D--no the Knicks sck at D because they accept being very small.

Don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of Lee, I'm glad he made the AS team, last drafted Knick to make the AS team before this was Mark Jackson a long time ago. Your absolutely right and I said it before myself, I would like to see Lee at the 4 spot paired with a defensive big. Being smaller is a huge problem at times especially against the teams with the longer 4s and 5s, like the Lakers with Gasol & Byrum. But you can't blame the Knicks problems on defense just because the play small. Look at the Rockets, their playing 6'6" Chuck Hayes at center and I don't think any of the players getting any burn are over 6'9".

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2/11/2010  11:51 PM
King1 wrote:why do you act like he is the only one that doesnt play defense. Not one player on this team rebounds but Lee. Wish someone else would pad there stats and rebound. Do you really think Gallinari is a good defender or Harrington, or Wilson, or duhon?

I have to admit I don't immediately look at rebounding as a defensive stat but it is, and David does grab them balls. Pause. Congratulations to the man, he put in work and has achieved impressive results. Dude takes a 12-13 footer and you expect it to drop.

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2/12/2010  2:08 AM
King1 wrote:why do you act like he is the only one that doesnt play defense. Not one player on this team rebounds but Lee. Wish someone else would pad there stats and rebound. Do you really think Gallinari is a good defender or Harrington, or Wilson, or duhon?

It's great that Lee gets to be an all-star, but let's not use the occasion to denigrate the contribution of other players. Both Gallo and Chandler are averaging 5.3 rebounds a game this season.

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2/12/2010  2:11 AM
markvmc wrote:
King1 wrote:why do you act like he is the only one that doesnt play defense. Not one player on this team rebounds but Lee. Wish someone else would pad there stats and rebound. Do you really think Gallinari is a good defender or Harrington, or Wilson, or duhon?

It's great that Lee gets to be an all-star, but let's not use the occasion to denigrate the contribution of other players. Both Gallo and Chandler are averaging 5.3 rebounds a game this season.

aka combined they are averaging fewer rebounds than lee.

lee shows up every night and makes the most of his talents. if every knick over the past ten years had done as much, we wouldn't be so horrible.

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2/12/2010  8:06 AM
BRIGGS wrote:If the Knicks had a legitimate 7 footer in there playing next to Lee--not one person would say a word about his so-called bad D. What you see is positions 4-5 very frequently overwhelming him with size combination---I asked the question who is our 4-5--right we dont have one--we play a PF two SF a wing and a PG. I don't see how people are so blind to this. Put a Dikemebe Mutumbo in his prime next to Lee and no one would say a word other than lee is a physical 4 with a lot of skills. Stupidest thing I have to read on a daily basis--David Lee scks at D--no the Knicks sck at D because they accept being very small.

And don't expect that to change with this coach. As long as Mike D'Antoni is the coach here, David Lee will be our Center.

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2/12/2010  8:10 AM
Congrats to DLee. He has earned his place on the All-Star team.
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2/12/2010  9:47 AM
crzymdups wrote:
markvmc wrote:
King1 wrote:why do you act like he is the only one that doesnt play defense. Not one player on this team rebounds but Lee. Wish someone else would pad there stats and rebound. Do you really think Gallinari is a good defender or Harrington, or Wilson, or duhon?

It's great that Lee gets to be an all-star, but let's not use the occasion to denigrate the contribution of other players. Both Gallo and Chandler are averaging 5.3 rebounds a game this season.

aka combined they are averaging fewer rebounds than lee.

lee shows up every night and makes the most of his talents. if every knick over the past ten years had done as much, we wouldn't be so horrible.

Saying that Lee is the best rebounder on the team is one thing; saying he doesn't get any help from anyone else on the team is another.

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2/12/2010  3:58 PM
markvmc wrote:
King1 wrote:why do you act like he is the only one that doesnt play defense. Not one player on this team rebounds but Lee. Wish someone else would pad there stats and rebound. Do you really think Gallinari is a good defender or Harrington, or Wilson, or duhon?

It's great that Lee gets to be an all-star, but let's not use the occasion to denigrate the contribution of other players. Both Gallo and Chandler are averaging 5.3 rebounds a game this season.

both Gallo & Changler are also better defenders than Lee... praising him for making the AS game is justly deserved but you're an idiot if you completely ignore the glaring weaknesses in his game.

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Ireally think if the Knicks had a all star it would attract better players

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