Pharzeone wrote:

Markji wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

JayNYC wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:Washington's owner died and they are in the process of selling the team they are not adding salary for 2010. They want to pick for a reason.

Here is a revised deal where the salary matches AND the guaranteed contracts are within the limits

NYC gets: McGrady, Miller, and Cook

WAS gets: Harrington, Hughes, Milicic, pick from Houston

HOU gets: James, Haywood, and Butler

- Knicks get shooters who expire in an attempt to make a playoff push. I included Mike Miller because I cant see Walsh taking Cook considering the tax hit without getting something good in return.

- Washington gets expirings and reduces their payroll

- Houston basically kills in this deal since Haywood could be retained if they lose Scola or Landry to free agency. They also get an experienced offensive SF and Mike James takes Brian Cook's spot on the bench.

Just curious AnubisADL, is your inclusion of Mike Miller just based on mere hope that he lands in NYK??? Or are you getting a lead from somewhere that he is available??? I like Mike Miller, AND WOULD LOVE FOR THIS TRADE TO HAPPEN! But I still cant see The Wizards trading BOTH HIM AND BUTLER

Just looking at the Wizards contract situation they don't have any other large expirings to make the numbers work.

Yeah, that's what I saying. All the Knicks would be doing is helping the Wizards get under the cap to make a run at the same free agents that the Knicks will be looking to go after. The Rockets and Wizards have no interest in Jeffries since he has salary next year. I don't get why Jeffries' name keeps getting floated around. Jeffries will have to go to a team like the Spurs or Celtics.

Washington can't get far enough under the cap to sign a max FA. Arenas + Jamison = $31 million for next year. Plus their other players.

I think Jamison would be included another deal. Could be with Cleveland at some point. Jamison is a guy that I don't think you need to package with another player.

Pharzeone wrote:I think Jamison would be included another deal. Could be with Cleveland at some point. Jamison is a guy that I don't think you need to package with another player.

Bingo. Jamison is a goner. The only other long deals the Wizards have are Arenas and young guys on cheap deals.

JayNYC wrote:So now there is a fire sale in Washington? I dont know... Cant see why they trade Jamison, Butler, Miller, Haywood, Mike James and keep Gilbert?

I think some of us are sippin the kool aid

Michael Lee of the Washington Post is reporting that the asking price on Jamison is turning some teams off and really painting a picture that Wizards' president Ernie Grunfeld is unwilling to part with one of his favorite players. Jamison is viewed by the team as their best leader and best fan friendly player and with everything that's gone on in Washington there just isn't a willingness to move him unless it returns substantial value.

Yeah that's what I saying the only one keeping Jamison from being traded is Washington. If they want they can get back a pick and expiring for him easy.

AnubisADL wrote:

JayNYC wrote:So now there is a fire sale in Washington? I dont know... Cant see why they trade Jamison, Butler, Miller, Haywood, Mike James and keep Gilbert?

I think some of us are sippin the kool aid

Michael Lee of the Washington Post is reporting that the asking price on Jamison is turning some teams off and really painting a picture that Wizards' president Ernie Grunfeld is unwilling to part with one of his favorite players. Jamison is viewed by the team as their best leader and best fan friendly player and with everything that's gone on in Washington there just isn't a willingness to move him unless it returns substantial value.

It isn't a fire sale it is dumping salary. They are trying to sell the team. Miller and Butler are both 29/30 and Butler is a 2011 contract. Why pay Butler all that money if they still are going to lose?

But someone mentioned that Jamison was a goner as well? I still haven't read or heard about any trade barbs where Miller is mentioned as a being apart of any potential deals. I have read about Haywood, Butler, Mike James and now Deshawn Stevenson being shopped. I doubt that Mike Miller and especially Ant Jamison will be dealt.

Knicks' president Donnie Walsh has gone to watch Tracy McGrady workout, and might go see him again before the February 18 trade deadline.

The Knicks are reportedly involved in discussions with the Rockets and Wizards about a three-way deal that would bring McGrady to New York.

djsunyc wrote:if walsh is actually going to scout tmac...then it has to be entertaining the thoughts of bringing him back next year. what's the point if he's just a 1/2 season rental that's expiring? unless walsh is just doing it for show.

perhaps he means to make T-Mac the Robin to Bender's Batman?

Suppose we can't trade Jeffries, and suppose we're unwilling to trade Chandler/Gallo/Douglas/Hill. That means that to have a shot at two max FA's, we have to let all of our expirings, including Lee, walk away.

Obviously no-one is giving McGrady a max contract. But, if he's cheaper than Lee, it might be possible to add one max FA, and split the capspace for the other max FA between McGrady and someone else.

So, maybe Donnie's interest in McGrady is a half-season audition, rather than a rental?

TMS wrote:i think T-Mac is too much of a longterm injury risk to sign to a big extension... i'd pass on offering T-Mac any contracts personally... & no matter what Donnie does, he cannot let Lee walk w/o getting something back... if we can't keep him, then he needs to work out some kind of trade at the deadline or a S&T this summer to bring back some useful asset, whether that be a 1st round pick or another player that can help us going forward.

there will be a sign and trade IF lee leaves because lee will get more money and years by resigning with the knicks. i dont think there is any chance lee leaves outright, although i expect him to be resigned.

K22 wrote:

sebstar wrote:T-Pain comin to NY? Another move about 9 yrs. too late, but better late than never I suppose.

This deal doesnt mean shyt if Jeffries isnt involved.

Seb for the win.

U were the only cat that appreciated that jewel...

If he's healthy he can help this team with his scoring and passing. Guy was good for 20/5 if his knees and back weren't completely shutting him down. Most of the time he was playing in some kind of pain and still delivered. It's a free tryout so who cares. Now if we can somehow move Jared too, then it's all good.