Cosmic wrote:TMS wrote:Paladin55 wrote:Once again, people rush to judgement in declaring a guy a bust.I don't know how he will eventually turn out to be as a player, but the certitude which some have that he will never amount to anything in the NBA borders on ignorance, IMO.
i agree Paladin... it's pretty laughable... the same crap was regurgitated all of last season about Gallo too after his first 28 games in the NBA... premature labelling of him as a bust, the next Boki Nachbar, stiff legged Euro trash, the list goes on... i have to believe the people who are rushing to judgement on these guys really have not seen them play much at all.
Actually, no. Most fans were frustrated with Gallo's health issues but most fans saw something very special in how he played those limited minutes. So that's not true.
Hill? Come'on this kid is a clueless hack. I'm tired of hearing the same old stuff.
"Big men take time to develop."
"He didn't get enough minutes to show his skills."
"He's still young."
"He was a lotto pick."
Comments like these are worthless. Sweetney and Butler who aren't even in the league anymore at least showed something when they played. Hill showed nothing at all. Whooptie doo he hit a few 16 footers when left wide open. That's not untapped potential.
I could never understand this internet phenomena of "We selected him he will be a SUPERSTAR. Oh, he's playing like ****? Well, HES YOUNG give him a break he will be a SUPERSTAR!. Oh, he's still playing like ****? WELL STOP HATING HES YOUNG."
And on and on and on through year after year of said player SUCKING.
Jordan Hill stunk. Dude had small stone hands. Dude had no concept of pro basketball, no feel for the game, and was overwhelmed by scrubs from other teams.
Let it go..... Sergio Rodriguez is a 10x better prospect than Jordan Hill and at a position we NEED HELP AT. We got Lee, Chandler, Gallo. We don't need Jordan Stone Hands Hill.
Knick fans on draft night who booed the pick were right on this one. And if we draft a big man out of Arizona ever again I'm done. Frye...and Hill. Yuck.
I feel strange defending Hill as a prospect since I did not want to draft him. Curry was my 1st choice, and I thought we might go after Holiday after having him come in for 2 visits, or even think about DeRozan and Henderson. And there was always a chance that we could have traded down, but we took Hill, knowing that he was raw, and then proceeded to give him no minutes to develop even though we had a defensively weak front line, and guys like Jeffries and Darko who were never going to be part of our future.
In retrospect, because we played ourselves out of the playoffs, you can make a very strong case that we should have been giving Hill and Douglas significant minutes-25-35 MPG- and letting them grow through their mistakes. On a quality team you would have given them 10-15 MPG, and pulled them out when they were hurting the team, but we are not a top level team by any stretch of the imagination. Instead, because we had pretensions of making the playoffs, MDA/Walsh decided to ride the vets at the expense of our rookies.
I understand that MDA could see things in practice that we could not see, but ultimately, Hill needed time on the court. Maybe, as Briggs always wanted, he should have spent some time in the DL where he could have logged the minutes he was not getting with the Knicks.
I'm sure that this will not be the last season we see threads dedicated to Hill- since we will all be watching his future progress to see if his performance validates our respective opinions on him.
No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities- C.N. Bovee
2/19/2010 9:23 PM
