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1/9/2010  2:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/9/2010  2:44 PM
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knicks1248 wrote:Birds IQ was through the roof on both ends of the floor, but I need to see more from DG before i start comparing him to anybody.

why are white players compared to other white player, same for blacks ? I know the question sound a little ridiculous, but in the MLB young players get compared to older great players reguardless of race.

Question....What black (or non-white) nba player reminds you of Galo?

Err... Tim Thomas?
Lamar Odom?
Who else is 6'10" with a shot like that...

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1/9/2010  3:22 PM
One thing I hope to see is Gallo really working on his legs! If this guy improves his cord strength and his leg explosion, he'll be unstoppable! He has very little development in his legs. It would help him to be able to post up and also when he looks to drive and take jumpers late in games. I'm amazed how good he's been with such weak legs.
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1/9/2010  3:28 PM
Asking Gallo to be like Larry Bird is just unfair. Whem I first saw him, I was thinking he is a cross of Keith Van Horn and Allan Houston, at their greatest. Gallo will be a better defender, but in terms of his offense, I can see that, especially if he stops settling for 3s and works on that midrange.
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1/9/2010  3:37 PM
BTW: Ive only truely seen Jordan, but in terms of accomplishments for their teams and themselves and how they impacted the league:

1) Jordan
2) Russell
3) Chamberlain
4) Magic/Jabar/Bird
5) Magic/Jabar/Bird
6) Magic/Jabar/Bird
7) Shaq
8) Big O
9) West
10) Dr. J

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1/9/2010  6:02 PM
Gallo is really going to be a unique player but he does compare favorable to Bird because he can defend (Gallo may be an even better defender), he can shot from anywhere, he can pass, and he has a high BB IQ. Now Gallo needs to develop his mid-range game, his post moves, and just gain experience, but in terms of skill set, Gallo is going to come close to Bird. Obviously, he still needs to lead the Knicks to several championships before he can be compared to Bird, but I think his skill set (assuming he continues to improve each year) will be close.
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1/9/2010  10:10 PM
technomaster wrote:
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technomaster wrote:Gallo's pushing 15ppg in his "limited" role on offense. He's not being used as a focal point. Next season, if they call a few plays for him in the post or in the pick & roll, you figure he could be pushing 18-20ppg in 2010.

if we get Lebron & re-sign Lee or sign someone else like Bosh, i dunno about that... Gallo's not going to see as many touches on offense unless MDA starts to feature him more & that will have to come at the expense of somebody, no?

Assuming we have much of the same mix next year - I think we could easily see a reduced role for Al Harrington, who doesn't do a heck of a lot of other things other than score. Take away 2 shot attempts/game from him, and that becomes 3pts for Gallo (or Chandler).

Right now we've formed our "big three" - Lee, Chandler, and Gallo. It brings up some interesting questions on who our priorities will be next year on the FA market. Top priorities would be a pure shooting PG and a shot blocking threat, either at center or PF. You'd ideally like to see both Chandler and Gallo starting and getting at least 32mpg, but both of them are sized along the lines of an LBJ. In theory you could go with a big lineup, with Lebron at PG, and go 6'8+" from PG-PF. With that mix of players, you could probably deal with a non-scoring Jeffries type at center.

I wouldn't mind Wade as a PG either - given that our Lee, Chandler, and Gallo can all capably bring the ball up the floor, you could still play Wade off the ball.

I'm not 100% convinced on what Bosh would bring to the table on our team... but certainly he'd offer a mobile talent upgrade at the big man positions. It's just that we've got guys with scoring upside all around.

if we get Lebron i don't see any way Al Harrington will be here... Nate & Hughes will also be gone so you open up scoring opportunities, but Lebron will be taking a big chunk of the shot attempts too... i guess Gallo's increase or decrease in production will depend on how he is used next year... if he works on his strength & bulks up a little i can see MDA posting him up more & going inside... i have to figure Wilson & Lee will still be taking their fair share of shot attempts too in either case.

i don't see us getting D Wade, not a chance... i can see Bosh or Amare joining him down in MIA tho... Lebron will either come to NY or stay in CLE IMHO... i don't think there's any chance he goes to NJ or MIN... if Lebron decides to stay in CLE for some reason, i have a feeling we're going to get Joe Johnson.

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1/10/2010  3:18 PM
TMS wrote:
technomaster wrote:
TMS wrote:
technomaster wrote:Gallo's pushing 15ppg in his "limited" role on offense. He's not being used as a focal point. Next season, if they call a few plays for him in the post or in the pick & roll, you figure he could be pushing 18-20ppg in 2010.

if we get Lebron & re-sign Lee or sign someone else like Bosh, i dunno about that... Gallo's not going to see as many touches on offense unless MDA starts to feature him more & that will have to come at the expense of somebody, no?

Assuming we have much of the same mix next year - I think we could easily see a reduced role for Al Harrington, who doesn't do a heck of a lot of other things other than score. Take away 2 shot attempts/game from him, and that becomes 3pts for Gallo (or Chandler).

Right now we've formed our "big three" - Lee, Chandler, and Gallo. It brings up some interesting questions on who our priorities will be next year on the FA market. Top priorities would be a pure shooting PG and a shot blocking threat, either at center or PF. You'd ideally like to see both Chandler and Gallo starting and getting at least 32mpg, but both of them are sized along the lines of an LBJ. In theory you could go with a big lineup, with Lebron at PG, and go 6'8+" from PG-PF. With that mix of players, you could probably deal with a non-scoring Jeffries type at center.

I wouldn't mind Wade as a PG either - given that our Lee, Chandler, and Gallo can all capably bring the ball up the floor, you could still play Wade off the ball.

I'm not 100% convinced on what Bosh would bring to the table on our team... but certainly he'd offer a mobile talent upgrade at the big man positions. It's just that we've got guys with scoring upside all around.

if we get Lebron i don't see any way Al Harrington will be here... Nate & Hughes will also be gone so you open up scoring opportunities, but Lebron will be taking a big chunk of the shot attempts too... i guess Gallo's increase or decrease in production will depend on how he is used next year... if he works on his strength & bulks up a little i can see MDA posting him up more & going inside... i have to figure Wilson & Lee will still be taking their fair share of shot attempts too in either case.

i don't see us getting D Wade, not a chance... i can see Bosh or Amare joining him down in MIA tho... Lebron will either come to NY or stay in CLE IMHO... i don't think there's any chance he goes to NJ or MIN... if Lebron decides to stay in CLE for some reason, i have a feeling we're going to get Joe Johnson.


I doubt D-Wade comes here also, but he might be a better fit than Lebron. We have SFs, what we don't have is a SG. A team of Wade, Chandler, Gallo, Lee, and Jeffries would be fairly good defensively and awesome on offense. Wade is a competent passer and could run our offense from the point and he is a good enough defender to guard most PGs.

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1/10/2010  3:26 PM
i think Wilson has shown he can fill the SG position nicely... Lebron does everything Wade does & more if u ask me... even if Wade would wanna come to NY i'd take Lebron w/o a moment's hesitation.
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1/11/2010  1:07 PM
TMS wrote:seb, hang in there bro... we all got your back, u know that brotha.

btw, i can't imagine any top 5 w/o Wilt.

Thanks family. That means a lot.

As for Wilt, I cant get passed the immense size advantage he had over the players in his era. I dont see Wilt beating in the 90s over Robinson, Ewing, Shaq, and The Dream. As a matter of fact, I think Olajuwon would make him look stupid.

I give Wilt his props, but I dont see him as top five.

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1/11/2010  1:14 PM
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sebstar wrote:Gallo is going to be good, perhaps very, very good, but not great.

And Bird is not a top 5 player of all time.

Huh? I'd say perhaps top three, but definitely top five. I guess it depends on your criteria. He was magnificent. The highlights reel linked to above is a small sampling of the wild stuff he did all the time. He was almost always the game changer.

Not like I'm dissing him, I just dont think he is greater than Bryant, Jordan, Big-O, Jabbar, or Magic.

Even if one could make the case that Bird is top 5, he would only be keeping the seat warm for Lebron.

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1/11/2010  3:08 PM
Bird is Top 5.

1. Jordan
2. Wilt
3. Big O
4a. Magic
4b. Bird

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1/11/2010  3:25 PM
sebstar wrote:
TMS wrote:seb, hang in there bro... we all got your back, u know that brotha.

btw, i can't imagine any top 5 w/o Wilt.

Thanks family. That means a lot.

As for Wilt, I cant get passed the immense size advantage he had over the players in his era. I dont see Wilt beating in the 90s over Robinson, Ewing, Shaq, and The Dream. As a matter of fact, I think Olajuwon would make him look stupid.

I give Wilt his props, but I dont see him as top five.

i dunno if he would or wouldn't cuz i've never seen Wilt play, all i know is the stats he put up over his career or absolutely mind blowing, i can't imagine anyone in this day & age doing the things he did in his heyday.

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1/11/2010  3:27 PM
TMS wrote:
sebstar wrote:
TMS wrote:seb, hang in there bro... we all got your back, u know that brotha.

btw, i can't imagine any top 5 w/o Wilt.

Thanks family. That means a lot.

As for Wilt, I cant get passed the immense size advantage he had over the players in his era. I dont see Wilt beating in the 90s over Robinson, Ewing, Shaq, and The Dream. As a matter of fact, I think Olajuwon would make him look stupid.

I give Wilt his props, but I dont see him as top five.

i dunno if he would or wouldn't cuz i've never seen Wilt play, all i know is the stats he put up over his career or absolutely mind blowing, i can't imagine anyone in this day & age doing the things he did in his heyday.

and if you add in all the women he claims to have slayed, not even ron jeremy can touch wilt....

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1/11/2010  4:24 PM
Giving Gallo that tape was as Genius a move as any THE DON has made to date....

Gallo is young and like many young bucks he didnt get a chance to see Bird and his brilliance in order to appreciate nor to immolate
his game around.....

Gallo is 6'10 or taller ( Looks taller) Can Shoot from range like very few people can has handle and a hi basketball IQ and even though he
is no Bird ( nicknamed Rooster though) it only makes sense to show him a video of the best 6'10 white boy to ever play....

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1/11/2010  4:26 PM
With all the great Centers in the NBA (the game rewards height after all) I think it's more fair to do a top5 Centers list and then a top5 list for everyone else.

That way you can debate the merits of Wilt and Russel, Shaq, and Olajuwon etc... while not doing a disservice to some equally great but more vertically challenged ballers.

Centers:
Russel
Shaq
Hakeem
Wilt
Kareem

Non-Centers:
Jordan
Magic
Bird
Oscar
Kobe

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1/11/2010  4:27 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Bird is Top 5.

1. Jordan
2. Wilt
3. Big O
4a. Magic
4b. Bird
[/quote

I agree 100%

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1/11/2010  4:32 PM
TMS wrote:
sebstar wrote:
TMS wrote:seb, hang in there bro... we all got your back, u know that brotha.

btw, i can't imagine any top 5 w/o Wilt.

Thanks family. That means a lot.

As for Wilt, I cant get passed the immense size advantage he had over the players in his era. I dont see Wilt beating in the 90s over Robinson, Ewing, Shaq, and The Dream. As a matter of fact, I think Olajuwon would make him look stupid.

I give Wilt his props, but I dont see him as top five.

i dunno if he would or wouldn't cuz i've never seen Wilt play, all i know is the stats he put up over his career or absolutely mind blowing, i can't imagine anyone in this day & age doing the things he did in his heyday.

Yeah. His stats are crazy, but I think a cat like the Dream would beast on him. I just dont think he was better than the '90s centers...

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1/11/2010  4:45 PM
i'm not familiar but does anyone know how Wilt did vs. Kareem when they faced off head to head?
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1/11/2010  5:21 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:
blkexec wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Birds IQ was through the roof on both ends of the floor, but I need to see more from DG before i start comparing him to anybody.

why are white players compared to other white player, same for blacks ? I know the question sound a little ridiculous, but in the MLB young players get compared to older great players reguardless of race.

Question....What black (or non-white) nba player reminds you of Galo?

Err... Tim Thomas?
Lamar Odom?
Who else is 6'10" with a shot like that...

Hidayet Turkoglu

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/11/2010  5:46 PM
Yeah -- I'm not seeing the Bird comparison. They are both white and can really shoot, particularly for big guys, but that's about where it ends. Bird was a great rebounder and a very good post-up player, neither of which are strengths of Gallo's. I think Turkolu is more apt.

By the way, I never understood the Bird wasn't an athlete line of reasoning. He had amazing coordination, vision and timing and great strength. There's more to athleticism than running and jumping. And I don't see the same kind of athleticism in Gallo.

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