McK1 wrote:

joec32033 wrote:

McK1 wrote:

Panos wrote:

But a race issue its certainly not. Stop fueling hate.

if a black coach spent his first 100 games trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, he would be held responsible.

this ******* does it and folk run around the message boards talking about the [mostly black] Knicks are just too dumb to understand.

I'm not fueling hate.

joec made a comment in this thread:

I remember a while ago Mike D said he was gonna slow it down a little because he doesn't have the players he needs like he had in PHX to run the offense at light speed

everybody knew that from day one. Why does he get a pass for such ineptitude? lemme guess, cause the players are just too dumb to understand. SMFH...

The guy was brought in to RUN A SYSTEM. His SYSTEM. He thought that Duhon can do it. He couldn't. We have ALOT of low IQ players who can not make quick decisions that are integral to running SSOL.

And no one is giving him a pass. What exactly did you expect this season? A winning season? You would probably be the only person in NY that thought this mess could be cleaned up in one season.

Also, just out of curiosity, how did you link what I said with that dumb race card statement you made well before my comment?

I'm not linking the two. Discussion about race was not directed at you. Its a prevailing theme on knix message boards that the players are too dumb to understand the basketball Christ . He shouldn't adjust to the personnel he signed on to coach and 2010 is the crutch this prejudiced approach rests on.

The guy was brought in to coach. He has had two off seasons to acquire players who fit his philosophy. He handpicked Duhon. He is certainly responsible for him FUBARing the pg position.

Expected to see what we've seen the last 10 games an adjustment by to the personnel. NY has a frontline that can beat teams by getting to free throw line. Why the **** were they still jacking 30 3's a night.

Actually no one was complaining about Duhon the first half of last year and everyone attributed his poor play last year to exhaustion. I personally never bought it-I always liked Duhon as a half court guy.

Duhon was handpicked to be a stopgap PG. So I kinda disagree with the implication we bought in Duhon to be a long term solution.

In regards to style, this is his style. I agree 30 3's is a bit excessive but really this team doesn't have one dependable scorer. They need as many points per basket as possible. Also we also-on paper- have a very good rebounding team with not a lot of slashers.

joec32033 wrote:
Actually no one was complaining about Duhon the first half of last year and everyone attributed his poor play last year to exhaustion. I personally never bought it-I always liked Duhon as a half court guy.

Duhon was handpicked to be a stopgap PG. So I kinda disagree with the implication we bought in Duhon to be a long term solution.

In regards to style, this is his style. I agree 30 3's is a bit excessive but really this team doesn't have one dependable scorer. They need as many points per basket as possible. Also we also-on paper- have a very good rebounding team with not a lot of slashers.

that David Lee guy who shoots in the mid 50s % wise and avgs close to 20 a game is not dependable scoer
Nate 17ppg off the bench last year isn't a dependable scorer
Harrington who avg's 19 a game isn't a dependable scorer

Al Harrington Wilson Chandler David Lee Larry Hughes are not slashers

I think we should credit for his 43 wins but go back and give 's 69 losses as head coach here to his brother or Herb

A) Lee is our best scorer by avg. at least, and he CANNOT CREATE HIS OWN SHOT, settles the question right there. We DO NOT have a dependable scorer.

B) The closest thing we have to a dependable scorer is Al, and he is notoriously inconsistent, with a low shooting percentage to boot.

C) Nate can't even get into the rotation because he is a huge liability on the defense and is mentally incapable of running plays. And he is probably our best pure scorer from the creating your own shot and shooting percentage perspectives.

With these facts in mind, it is a miracle this team is winning any games. They are currently way overachieving under this coach. People just look at the players through homer pink colored glasses and expect great things out of guys who are career bums.

Donnie already dumped Zach & Jamal's longterm contracts for expirings. - TMS

TMS - the difference is that the occassionally problemmatic Zack Randolph and the Amazing Torch Jamal Crawford both have valuable skill sets. Zach is a walking double-double and Jamal on a good night is bothe entertaining and productive. The Hawks are very happy to have him and the results are evidence of his contributions. He has made them a better team.

D'Antoni and Walsh are using last season and this season as an audition for everyone. Guys who did not impress last year did themselves no favors and needed to work that much harder to get back with the IN crowd. Nate started wearing out his welcome last season and Eddy never should have shown up for training camp at 475 pounds with an infected tatoo.

Bender is in the long range plan from a skill set perspective.

The fix is in and it won't be pretty. Heads will roll and there will be blood. But when the dust finally settles around next year at this same time, and guys are beginning to cohere around a playing personality with an added quality free agent, I would offer that things will get interesting.

The auditions for this season closed in November.

I have no problem with the core four of 6'9 Lee, 6'8 Chandler, 6'10 Gallo and 7' Bender.

My kingdom for a lead guard.

Wilson Chandler is 6'8 240

McK1 - totally agree with cooch2584. For you to inject race into explaining how Wilson Chandler plays basketball is ignorant and pointless. If you have a valid point to make from a basketball perspective there are many other ways to demonstrate your (cough) knowledge... and then back it with intelligent substance.

You have some explaining to do.

misterearl wrote:A Chorus Line (part 7)

Donnie already dumped Zach & Jamal's longterm contracts for expirings. - TMS

TMS - the difference is that the occassionally problemmatic Zack Randolph and the Amazing Torch Jamal Crawford both have valuable skill sets. Zach is a walking double-double and Jamal on a good night is bothe entertaining and productive. The Hawks are very happy to have him and the results are evidence of his contributions. He has made them a better team.

D'Antoni and Walsh are using last season and this season as an audition for everyone. Guys who did not impress last year did themselves no favors and needed to work that much harder to get back with the IN crowd. Nate started wearing out his welcome last season and Eddy never should have shown up for training camp at 475 pounds with an infected tatoo.

Bender is in the long range plan from a skill set perspective.

The fix is in and it won't be pretty. Heads will roll and there will be blood. But when the dust finally settles around next year at this same time, and guys are beginning to cohere around a playing personality with an added quality free agent, I would offer that things will get interesting.

The auditions for this season closed in November.

I have no problem with the core four of 6'9 Lee, 6'8 Chandler, 6'10 Gallo and 7' Bender.

My kingdom for a lead guard.

i just don't see much of anything in Jonathan Bender that tells me he should factor into our long range plans... he looks shot to me... all he can really do is hit an open J... he's not gonna be a main cog in our future plans, forget about him being part of some core four, that's a crackpipe induced delusion... at best he'll be a bit role player & that's even being optimistic... he can't guard anyone & he can't create his own shot off the dribble cuz of his limited mobility & bad knees... that also limits his ability to play help defense... i would much rather see Jordan Hill seeing minutes over him... i don't understand how any logically thinking Knick fan could see it otherwise unless they're just extreme apologists for anything the Knicks' management decides to do.

Have a Glen Beck Card.

misterearl wrote:McK1 - no. Playing innocent does not work.

Have a Glen Beck Card.

oh please.

"its not Wilson Chandlers fault all 6'8 220lb black guys look like Joe Johnson to " is what I wrote.

joec replied:

Stop with the stupid racial ****. You know Pringlkes no better than the rest of us.

I'll stop b/c I don't know . I do know AI isn't here because of the youth movement.