Bippity10 wrote:This reminds me of the good old days when I would say something like "I think LB has done a horrible job this year and has been a major part of the controversy that we are a part of, but I still don't think we should fire him"

Then someone would say "I can't beleive you think LB is doing a great job and should be given an extension and raise and keys to the city."

larry lover!

nyk4ever wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:This reminds me of the good old days when I would say something like "I think LB has done a horrible job this year and has been a major part of the controversy that we are a part of, but I still don't think we should fire him"

Then someone would say "I can't beleive you think LB is doing a great job and should be given an extension and raise and keys to the city."

larry lover!

Thanks.

Happy late birthday by the way

nyk4ever wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:This reminds me of the good old days when I would say something like "I think LB has done a horrible job this year and has been a major part of the controversy that we are a part of, but I still don't think we should fire him"

Then someone would say "I can't beleive you think LB is doing a great job and should be given an extension and raise and keys to the city."

larry lover!

Thanks.

Happy late birthday by the way

anytime.. us larry lovers gotta stick together.

and thanks for the bday wishes. 27 is old!

I have pimples older then you.

buddapaw wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Maybe you guys forgot when nate block (forgot who) a shot, yelled, started posing under the bastket while his man scoop the ball up and layed it..Nate is part of a losing culture..he does not play to win the game..I'm sorry al least al plays some D, and can score on anybody in this league. We miss FT's. We miss some good looking shots,I'm not in full support of mikes decisions some times, but I know for sure nate, is a chemistry killer at some crucial points in the game

Lee was drafted by the Knicks the same year, isn't he also a part of that said losing culture.

Lee is not a knuckle head and really tries on defense, especially playing out of position. He has gotten better each season. He's been mention as a possible all star this season by a lot of people, not just MSG employees

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

buddapaw wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:Maybe you guys forgot when nate block (forgot who) a shot, yelled, started posing under the bastket while his man scoop the ball up and layed it..Nate is part of a losing culture..he does not play to win the game..I'm sorry al least al plays some D, and can score on anybody in this league. We miss FT's. We miss some good looking shots,I'm not in full support of mikes decisions some times, but I know for sure nate, is a chemistry killer at some crucial points in the game

Lee was drafted by the Knicks the same year, isn't he also a part of that said losing culture.

Lee is not a knuckle head and really tries on defense, especially playing out of position. He has gotten better each season. He's been mention as a possible all star this season by a lot of people, not just MSG employees

probably a lot of factors why I don't care for Nate, but the fact that he really is the same player since day 1 is what really bothers me. I am looking at stats and they don't really help either way (on the change bit) but with Lee you can say that he added something each season. What has Nate added or improved dramatically?

And to add on top of that all of the personality stuff that a coaching staff has to deal with...

Yeah I remember watching some TommyDee video of training camp (I no longer read/watch anything he posts) and Nate bumping chests with D Lee and others after he hit a 3. It was a celebration fit for a game winning basket and totally uncalled for. What's more it can lead to injury. Don't take it wrong I admire Nates' talent and energy. I just think he needs to mature and from what I have seen and read there is little evidence that that is ocurring.

babyKnicks wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

All you want to do is put the blame on Nate. Last year if it wasn't for Nate, a bunch of those games we would have lost. I can't wait till tonights game. This is a game we should win. The pistons are down. Let's see what happens.

what happened?

he wont answer you RV.

Nate on the other hand has shown no desire to change anything and I have mo issues with him being on the bench. All the talent in the world wontt get you a ring without descipline and maturity, look at Kobe prior to last year after Shaq being traded. In his case he did learn and is seeing the results. Nate has nowhere near the same level of talent but has the same "Me" first attitude. I am gonna call him Menate from now. If he keeps this up he should be traded IF anyone will take him, I still have doubts. Else keep him buried on the bench his effectivity is not in question and he doesn't need to be showcased.

TMS wrote:the benching had nothing to do w/Nate's play tonight, please... he's had games like this before... when he's on his game like he is tonight, he's literally unstoppable... he's also gonna give u games where u wanna strangle him... that's just who he is... benching him to teach him some kinda lesson for that long a time was overkill... we could have used that type of spark off the bench vs. the Spurs & the Nets, but some of u guys seemed to think he couldn't contribute to a win or were too afraid to criticize anything MDA was doing... it's a good thing Bender couldn't play tonight & Hughes was playing like crap of late otherwise Nate would still have been planted on the bench & MDA would still be making up some more BS about it being nothing personal.

i cant explain the landry sighting, and no hill. thats bothering me a great deal... maybe next game he will put in hill for 30+ and then nate gets dnp-cd again. cant tell what the coach is going with.