gony good point ,because when west took over and hired Hubie brown, the grizz were the same team but they got much better, now that team is a solid team, Hubie and west are holding people accountable, Layden did nothing , said nothing, held no one accountable, he was scared to make moves because of all the bad moves made before either handcuffed him or scared him off other moves... I am glad he is gone and I am glad Zeke is here...

It is sad that rich pros need threats to perform

What a difference a PG makes. Williams made this whole team go today from the opening tip. He made sure the right people got the ball in the right spots; whenever he was on the floor I didn’t see almost any stupid possessions where Houston is isolated top of the key instead of the wing or Van Horn is starting his move all the way at the 3 pt line. Dice and Thomas finally got the ball deep. Anderson got the ball cutting not somewhere on the perimeter caught like a deer in the headlights. Its not just Williams directly, it’s the leadership on the floor that makes sure people do the right thing. Eisley looked baaaad. But the sad part is that as a PG, not as a 3pt shooter he is better then Ward, which just goes to show how bad Ward is. We really do need a backup PG who can run the team for 10 min a night.

wow 5 str8 games KvH been on a role,keep it up.

I've been very impressed with KVH's game as of late. Perhaps this resurgence has something to do with his ankle finally feeling good again. It could, of course, have something to do with FW taking away the pressure and creating space for the big men.

How quickly things change--- a few days ago I posted a comparison of Ward and FW's 2nd year stats. After just a handful of good games, the comparison is starting to go in FW's favor.

He's showing a lot of confidence on the floor now and seems to feel as if he could take it to the hole almost at will. Lo and behold, it looks like he's suddenly gained the capability of creating his own shot. On one hand, I'm a little uncertain that he's a traditional PG at this point--- he plays like a combo guard, a playmaker. The Knicks had some of their greatest success in the last decade with combo guards (Rivers, Harper, Childs)...

I wonder what Isiah Thomas is thinking regarding the PG spot. It's nice and safe carrying a 3rd PG-- but the question is who should be the guy sitting on the bench? Eisley, as usual, looking tentative on offense. The ball is moving quickly, then it hits Eisley... and he stops the flow... dribble dribble dribble.

Initially, this is the result one can expect during shakeup in most organizations. I hope the initial results is not temporary. I'm looking for long term commitment, consistency and leadership that will sustain our team for many years to come.

BTW, please, stop finding fault in Chaney.

Some quotes from last night:

"In the back of our minds we probably are looking at our jobs, looking at accountability," said captain Allan Houston (15 points). "I can say in the front of our minds we really have to win."

But as Chaney said, "We still need help."

"When Frank penetrates, we get better shots," said Chaney, whose club shot 51 percent for the second straight night. "[Houston] gets better looks. [Van Horn] had good looks."

"He brings a different dimension to this team," said Keith Van Horn, who scored 28 points for the second time in two nights. "He is able to break guys down. We have a lot of different looks at point guard and Frank gives us a different option."

So Chaney, what the heck has taken you so long to make him the starter?

[Edited by - gonygonygo on 12/28/2003 10:12:16]

Posted by HARDCOREKNICKSFAN:

Over the last two games, Frank Williams has really stepped it up. He deserves the starter spot. He's helping get more opportunities for other players to score, and breaking down defenses like a champ. He's been a difference-maker that helps show how important it is for a team to be efficient @ the PG spot.

How can you say that? We have an obvious all star in Eisley and you want to play a rookie? Come on! Chaney knows what he is doing. He is an excellent coach and I suggest we let him handle the substitutions and decide who starts!