Everyone here always talks about hitting a home run right? Lopez isnt a homerun, he's an RBI single. Gallo isnt a homerun yet either, but he's got the tools to be one.

Briggs... keep Evans out of the discussion. He's the rare package of size, skill and work ethic you hope to get from a top 3 pick. Can you get a star after 3? Sure... but they usually take a bit more time to develop, mature, etc etc

fishmike wrote:

huskies01 wrote:Brook Lopez in his last 10 games - 20/9/2/52%/85% with games of 25/10 against Noah, 31/14 against Tyson Chandler, 26/12 against Gasol and Bynum and 32/14 against Oden and Pryzbilla.
Brook Lopez overall - 19/9/2/49%/82%

And all that at age 21, 4 months older than Gallo, in a league notorious to be tough on legitimate centers. But he is overrated. He sucks. He moves slower than a turtle. He has no wingspan. Hilariousness * 20. He is never going to improve, yeah? He is never going to add more muscle, never going to develop better post moves, never going to improve his rebounding, never going to develop a better jumpshot? But Gallinari will improve his game to the point where he and Lebron will be the next Jordan and Pippen. Gallo will improve his game but Lopez will be the same his entire career even though they are 4 months apart and have the same level of potential. Why? Because I said so! God, the kool aid is running wild.

nobody is saying that. Lopez is a legit 7 footer and he's got a huge wingspan. He's got great size and is a solid player. He's got a ceiling though... I think thats the point. The knocks on him in college were poor shooting %, average rebounder, very mechanical, bad passer, and average athlete. I think thats pretty much what your seeing now.

I would love to have him as our center. Who wouldnt? Everyone around here whines about Knicks drafting ho him players. Well they took Gallo trying to hit a home run and he's got that kind of potential.

I'm with you. I like Lopez and would not be whining had we drafted him at 6. But he is far from a guaranteed star. Can't make the argument that our guys are putting up hollow numbers on a bad team and then say Lopez is a star when he is doing the same. Now don't get me wrong, those numbers are impressive no matter what team you are on(to me). But after having watched him play close to 40 or 50 times I have my own assessment. He's a very good player on a horrible team. Is learning to do the little things to help his team win. Right now, he does not do them. He has the aptitude to learn, but there are not guarantees that he does. If he learns the tricks of the trade he could be a devastating scorer. If he doesn't, then he is more of a complimentary player then anything else. Uses his height and body well to get his shot off(tough skill to learn), hits the boards well and plays solid d. Does get beat by quicker centers and those PF's he is forced to guard. When I watch him against hte Knicks, I say "wow he's a good player" but I have no fear that he is going to take over the game and beat us. Lastly, his handling of the double team is one of the worst I've seen in my few decades of watching hoop. I have literally seen him lose 2 games this year because of his ineptitude in handling this. Now this is a learnable skill. If he learns it and combines that with offensive progression then you have a star. If he doesnt' then he is a big body that you love to have on your team but he is not star.

Kind of like GAllo he has skills but the jury is still out. His career willarch will come down to his work ehtic and ability to learn some skills. ButGallo has the ability to pass this guy in my view.

Some talk about his 3pt game like it's a weakness, but you're starting to see him blow by guys trying to run at him. Once he stops deferring to his teammates so much he's gonna be a beast.

fishmike wrote:Lopez is the most overrated guy by this board. He might be a shorter Ilgauskas and thats a maybe. He had nice #s his rookie year losing every game. He's got nice numbers this year losing every game. In college he had a very low shooting % for a guy of his size. What he is is a true center, and those are hard enough to find, but he is not a special player. A good player yes but not a star.

Everyone here always talks about hitting a home run right? Lopez isnt a homerun, he's an RBI single. Gallo isnt a homerun yet either, but he's got the tools to be one.

Briggs... keep Evans out of the discussion. He's the rare package of size, skill and work ethic you hope to get from a top 3 pick. Can you get a star after 3? Sure... but they usually take a bit more time to develop, mature, etc etc

You've got to at least call Lopez a 2 run double.

I agree he is a very solid player- but he plays at a position that for us has been impossible to fill since Ewing.

TheGame wrote:Lopez is a legit center, and I think he is or will be a top-10 center before too long. If Gallo stays healthy and develops the other aspects of his game besides 3pt shooting, he probably will be a more valuable player than Lopez, but Lopez is no joke. That dude is better than any center we have had since Ewing.

What's this "probably" better stuff? Man Lopez is OK, but let's not get carried away. How much better do you really think Lopez will get? He's not a high ceiling guy. He was a safe pick, cuz he had very little bust potential, but also very low ceiling too. I don't see teams ever getting to the point where they have to fear Lopez and game plan to stop him. Gallo has that kind of potential. The second that Gallo makes up his mind that he's going to be a force he will be, cuz he often doesn't realize that he has the advantage most of the time. He gives up the ball a bit too much cuz he thinks team 1st. He'll eventually learn that he is often the team better option to take the shot and control the action.

Gallo being able to shoot, handle and pass with his size is the package you need to be a star.

djsunyc wrote:lol @ all of you idiots.

lopez is averaging 19.2 pts and 9.1 rebs with 2.2 blks on a team with a young pg and no starting caliber 2/3/4.

will gallo ever average 19.2 ppg in a season? he has the system and the coach that encourages scoring...

but until he does, stop saying lopez has a ceiling...

agreed, u can't call Lopez a limited upside prospect & then say Gallo's got unlimited potential in the same breathe... what 2nd year player is putting up stats like Lopez is right now?... if Jordan Hill were to put up stats like that in his 2nd season we'd be hyping him like there's no tomorrow... let's be fair in our projections for these kids... Lopez is an excellent looking young prospect, & so is Gallo... right now, it's pretty obvious that Lopez is more advanced in his development... who has more upside at this point is anyone's guess.

kam77 wrote:

JohnWallace44 wrote:Any GM would trade Gallo for Randolph, Lopez, McGee or Thompson straight up, all of which were drafted later.

Besides Lopez, the other guys on that list haven't done a thing. They're all potential.

They haven't done a thing huh? What exactly is the standard that we're going by?

I thought I just read that Gallo's the creme de la creme of his draft because he's up to three good games now.

Is it too much to ask to just be objective here?

How many games has Gallo looked like a zombie and how many has he been assertive?

Its more than a little crazy to say that he's better than Westbrook/Rose/OJ and its very difficult to say he's more valuable than McGee/Thompson/Lopez/Randolph - all bigs who can score and defend, not just one or the other.