Marv wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

Markji wrote:Trading Harrington is fine but as Joec says - this isn't enough value. And since we have Hill, Chandler, Gallo, Lee, Jeffries at forward/PF - what is the point. And do we really want Jerome James back? Chi will be dumping James' contract - he hasn't played in any games this year. We should be able to dump Jeffries on them. Otherwise, this doesn't work for me.

Question: According to HoopsWorld, Chicago is on the books for Tim Thomas' 2009 -10 salary of $6.466 million. Can this be traded? Anyone know this?? If it can, then we add Jeffries to the deal and take back Tim Thomas's salary, the salaries match and we jetison Jeffries salary for 2010.
Final trade Harrington + Jeffries for Ty Thomas, Jerome James, Tim Thomas' 2009-10 salary. That I would do.

I'm also hoping this is part 1 of a double trade. Like when Walsh traded Crawford for a PF (Harrington) and then traded our PF (Zack) for a guard(Mobley) and Tim Thomas. Maybe something else is in the works?

We're not going to have Lee/Jeffries much longer.

Personally, I think a 3,4,5 of Gallo, Tyrus and Hill is pretty nice. But that's just me.

still no legitimate nba center size. you gotta have that big body that can come in and lean on somebody and make them pay. good thing we didn’t waste 2 lottery picks and $10M a year on the 3-game comeback wonder eddy mccurry or the worthless social misfit darko pottymouth.

darko pottymouth lol.

I agree with you about the no legit NBA center thing, but really, I don't think we can expect D'Antoni to have a guy like that at center. I think Hill would become the best center (based on height and skills) that played in a D'Antoni offense. Who knows, maybe Bip hasn't warned me enough and I'm drunk off optimism.

Al Harrington for Ty Thomas, Big Snacks and their 2nd rd pick.

Getter done.

Also, TT could potentially be a trading chip in a deal with a team who knows their big name soon to be UFA is on his way out the door.

Looking at you Memphis (Rudy Gay), Toronto (Bosh), and Atlanta (Johnson)

kingofelpaso wrote:Agreed.

Also, TT could potentially be a trading chip in a deal with a team who knows their big name soon to be UFA is on his way out the door.

Looking at you Memphis (Rudy Gay), Toronto (Bosh), and Atlanta (Johnson)

We still need to get rid of Jeffries for this trade to work for me. Otherwise we are wasting Harrington.

Marv wrote:

OldFan wrote:I don't know T.T.s game that well and don't know enough about the CAP to talk on that. But just because I know nothing doesn't mean I won't comment

I like the idea that he is a shot blocker. We have NO interior Defense and even if we started playing Hill and he quickly developed into a defensive force it would be nice to have more then one player who could defend on the inside.

I don't know what Harrington's trade value is. He's an expiring but hell we got him for Craw didn't we - so he wasn't worth much before and I can't see how that's changed.

I definitely would not want to do this if we couldn't drop his salary if it didn't work out. But if we could take a shot without risking the CAP space I'd be interested in this type of player. If he's good enough to make the trade - I don't know.

congrats on your 1000th post. it's always good to see an old guy get it in before he kicks

Even more importantly I'm getting Sh&T from Marv. Now I feel like I belong.

BRIGGS wrote:Tyrus has a lot of Stromile Swift. It looks so good but it just isnt there.

I think you may be right, but I think taking a chance on him might be worth the risk?

If there is a better deal out there for Harrington, I'm all for accepting it, but I do think Tyrus can have a good impact in the NBA if he were in the right situation. I guess thats why it's so tough to really evaluate him properly.

earthmansurfer wrote:

joec32033 wrote:That $13 mil cap hold for him is killer. After all the 2010 stuff you are gonna trade an expiring for this player at this salary?

Damn. How about Capt. Kirk being included in this if we are gonna go that route. Curry, Harrington, Wil for Kirk, Ty, and Jerome?

It's only a 13 million cap hold if you don't resign him. So, if you resign him starting at 6 million, then that is his cap hold. So, resign him but we have to hope to be able to get rid of Jeffries and or Curry, otherwise we have to renounce his rights because of the cap hold.

Why the hell would we sign TT to $6mm? Is he worth it? I vote no.

Tyrus is just 23 and already he's a bust around here? I see now that on this forum kids have 2 yrs to reach star status or they're a bust! Sometimes less than that! I'm no big Tyrus fan but for years he was the poster child for what Zeke caused us to miss out on. Now he's a scrub not worth trading Al Harrington for!

nixluva wrote:Wow! I can't believe what I've been reading. So many people down on Tyrus after all the crap we had to endure about how great he was gonna be and how Zeke had blown the chance to add a stud to the team. Have so many given up on Tyrus so quickly? I remember how so many marveled at his physical skills and only last playoffs he was starting to show signs of breaking thru! Is all of that gone now? Al was nothing to get excited about and now all of a sudden he's too valuable to trade for a 1st rd draft pick like Tyrus. Boy how fast things have changed.

Tyrus is just 23 and already he's a bust around here? I see now that on this forum kids have 2 yrs to reach star status or they're a bust! Sometimes less than that! I'm no big Tyrus fan but for years he was the poster child for what Zeke caused us to miss out on. Now he's a scrub not worth trading Al Harrington for!

Just because Tyrus was drafted 4th doesn't add to his value now. He has had 3+ years and now his value is based on what he has done. Like Darko, his value is not a lottery pick anymore.

nixluva wrote:Wow! I can't believe what I've been reading. So many people down on Tyrus after all the crap we had to endure about how great he was gonna be and how Zeke had blown the chance to add a stud to the team. Have so many given up on Tyrus so quickly? I remember how so many marveled at his physical skills and only last playoffs he was starting to show signs of breaking thru! Is all of that gone now? Al was nothing to get excited about and now all of a sudden he's too valuable to trade for a 1st rd draft pick like Tyrus. Boy how fast things have changed.

Tyrus is just 23 and already he's a bust around here? I see now that on this forum kids have 2 yrs to reach star status or they're a bust! Sometimes less than that! I'm no big Tyrus fan but for years he was the poster child for what Zeke caused us to miss out on. Now he's a scrub not worth trading Al Harrington for!

I don't think anyone is labeling him a bust but value for value this is not. Al to me is worth more than Ty Thomas. Ty Thomas is worth Ill Wil to me. I would do a deal like that straight up, but the numbers have to match. I would also do Ty for Nate straight up-talent for talent- but we have a financial plan next year and have to work with that in mind too. I personally think the best deal is the one I mentioned before. Al and Jefferies for BMiller and Ty. I don't care if we cut Miller because he is of no use to me but his contract is expiring.

Follow this up with Wil, Curry, and Mobley for TMac (not the player the contract besides it's not like we have a 2 anyway...).

I will happily roll with
Lee
Ty
Gallo
McGrady
Douglas

Duhon, Hill, Nate(maybe), Hughes off the bench for the rest of the year and go from there.

His jumper seems to be developing nicely and he's still got all of the great physical skills he was drafted for! 6-10 and active shotblocker with upside left in his offensive game. The Bulls offense Sucks! On our fast paced scheme he'd put up much better numbers! I think it would be a good deal and he and Hill would anchor the team going forward. Let Lee walk! I don't think we'll get more for Al.