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jimimou
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11/11/2009  1:02 PM
the fact the we are waiting for eddy curry to be the savior for this team speaks volumes as to the mindset of the fans these days.....
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11/11/2009  1:22 PM
jimimou wrote:the fact the we are waiting for eddy curry to be the savior for this team speaks volumes as to the mindset of the fans these days.....

Not so much a savior cuz we've got lots of other issues but he can change the way teams have to defend us and give us a chance to stabilize the offense. A guy like Gallo will benefit from his presence. When we spread the floor Curry will be able to get a ton of easy buckets or draw the foul. Dude it's gonna help! We have NOTHING in the post right now. A dominant big has to make it a bit easier on us.

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11/11/2009  1:25 PM
jimimou wrote:the fact the we are waiting for eddy curry to be the savior for this team speaks volumes as to the mindset of the fans these days.....

When you're drowning and about to go under the water you'll take any hand that materializes.

No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities- C.N. Bovee
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11/11/2009  1:35 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
jimimou wrote:the fact the we are waiting for eddy curry to be the savior for this team speaks volumes as to the mindset of the fans these days.....

When you're drowning and about to go under the water you'll take any hand that materializes.

good analogy - curry makes for the perfect life vest...hold onto him and you'll never sink!

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11/11/2009  1:39 PM
What kinda of conditioning do you do to lose weight in your head..His head is almost as narrow as KG..
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11/11/2009  1:44 PM
Wonder what his body fat % is at present...looking awful lean and hungry there.
Bill Simmons on Tyreke Evans "The prototypical 0-guard: Someone who handles the ball all the time, looks for his own shot, gets to the rim at will and operates best if his teammates spread the floor to watch him."
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11/11/2009  1:58 PM
jimimou wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
jimimou wrote:the fact the we are waiting for eddy curry to be the savior for this team speaks volumes as to the mindset of the fans these days.....

When you're drowning and about to go under the water you'll take any hand that materializes.

good analogy - curry makes for the perfect life vest...hold onto him and you'll never sink!


I actually wonder if they had him swimming a lot to get in shape. Good total body workout- tones muscles and builds up your endurance.
No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities- C.N. Bovee
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11/11/2009  2:06 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
jimimou wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
jimimou wrote:the fact the we are waiting for eddy curry to be the savior for this team speaks volumes as to the mindset of the fans these days.....

When you're drowning and about to go under the water you'll take any hand that materializes.

good analogy - curry makes for the perfect life vest...hold onto him and you'll never sink!


I actually wonder if they had him swimming a lot to get in shape. Good total body workout- tones muscles and builds up your endurance.


At least he would have prepared well for rejoining Team Titanic!

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11/11/2009  2:26 PM
nixluva wrote:
jimimou wrote:the fact the we are waiting for eddy curry to be the savior for this team speaks volumes as to the mindset of the fans these days.....

Not so much a savior cuz we've got lots of other issues but he can change the way teams have to defend us and give us a chance to stabilize the offense. A guy like Gallo will benefit from his presence. When we spread the floor Curry will be able to get a ton of easy buckets or draw the foul. Dude it's gonna help! We have NOTHING in the post right now. A dominant big has to make it a bit easier on us.

nix - what makes you think eddy can keep up with the tempo of this new offense? i see him more as a liability than a positive. now, if the knicks were playing vangundy or riley type ball like back in the 90's where they deliberatly tried to slow down the game and work inside out w patrick, then maybe it could work b/c eddy wouldnt have to exert himself running up and down the floor.

another thing about eddy, when has he ever been an inside presence on defene?

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11/11/2009  2:28 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
jimimou wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:
jimimou wrote:the fact the we are waiting for eddy curry to be the savior for this team speaks volumes as to the mindset of the fans these days.....

When you're drowning and about to go under the water you'll take any hand that materializes.

good analogy - curry makes for the perfect life vest...hold onto him and you'll never sink!


I actually wonder if they had him swimming a lot to get in shape. Good total body workout- tones muscles and builds up your endurance.

i read that they had him working out in the pool alot, which is great for your conditioning. but, like panos said somewhere in this thread, its one thing to get back in shaope, its another to get back to playing like an nba player. the amount of weight he lost in such little time really concerns me too - its not natural

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11/11/2009  2:36 PM
nixluva wrote:I've been hopeful that some team could be convince to take Curry if he got it together but now in this economy I just don't see it! I think he's gonna be with us for the rest of his contract. Perhaps if he really explodes and puts up better normal rebounding #'s then I think that changes things.

I'm not sure you wanna use the word "explode" with respect to Eddy Curry....

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11/11/2009  3:49 PM
It's a given that Curry has to get some practices and actual games under his belt in order to get up to the NBA level again, but being lighter is only going to help him be able to get in prime shape. Being Lighter should help minimize the chances for injury.

You guys don't know what he actually did with the trainers. He might have started off doing the pool work in order to allow his Calf tear to heal. After that they could easliy have had him doing all kinds of aerobic workouts, which is what seems most likely when you want someone to lose weight.

Also it's not true that Curry can't get up and down. Even when he was heavier he could still move. He should be even quicker now. He should be able to gain some stamina from not having to carry so much dead weight. Basically I see no merit to any of your arguments that Curry being back and much lighter isn't a big positive and that we shouldn't be glad to see him. Barring an injury, which can happen to anyone, I don't see a problem. Yeah he's got to do it, doesn't everyone? He's one of the most talented big men out there and he's on the team, so it's a good thing when he can take the floor for us again this season.

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11/11/2009  4:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/11/2009  4:06 PM
nixluva wrote:It's a given that Curry has to get some practices and actual games under his belt in order to get up to the NBA level again, but being lighter is only going to help him be able to get in prime shape. Being Lighter should help minimize the chances for injury.

You guys don't know what he actually did with the trainers. He might have started off doing the pool work in order to allow his Calf tear to heal. After that they could easliy have had him doing all kinds of aerobic workouts, which is what seems most likely when you want someone to lose weight.

Also it's not true that Curry can't get up and down. Even when he was heavier he could still move. He should be even quicker now. He should be able to gain some stamina from not having to carry so much dead weight. Basically I see no merit to any of your arguments that Curry being back and much lighter isn't a big positive and that we shouldn't be glad to see him. Barring an injury, which can happen to anyone, I don't see a problem. Yeah he's got to do it, doesn't everyone? He's one of the most talented big men out there and he's on the team, so it's a good thing when he can take the floor for us again this season.

Nobody said it isn't a big positive. We said prove that he's really back by staying on the court.
Frankly, I don't know why the hell that is so offensive to you...

And don't start making excuses already for him. If he gets injured again, its not about it able to happen to anybody. Its about another fat Knick center with chronic injuries eating salary cap while not playing a game.

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11/11/2009  4:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/11/2009  4:48 PM
nixluva wrote:I repeat that when Curry's weight was under control he played 81 games and was a beast.

You can repeat it all you want. 7 rebounds and .5 blocks is not a beast. It's a tame creature.

He also turned the ball over 50% more that year he played 81 games.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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11/11/2009  5:11 PM
I think we are all looking for some savior :). This team needs something going or we going to be hell crazy!
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11/11/2009  6:01 PM
kam77 wrote:
nixluva wrote:I repeat that when Curry's weight was under control he played 81 games and was a beast.

You can repeat it all you want. 7 rebounds and .5 blocks is not a beast. It's a tame creature.

He also turned the ball over 50% more that year he played 81 games.


He was unstoppable in the paint, that much we could use right about now. Yeah it was one thing, but it was a rare skill in this league with so few really dominant post up big men.

Besides Isiah and MDA aren't the same and It's not a given that MDA will use Curry the exact same way, which I feel was part of the reason for the TO's Remember he got most of his TO's on offensive fouls.

Another thing is that even in his best year with us, he wasn't in this kind of shape weight wise. It's possible that he could be even better and we don't know how MDA may effect his efficiency as a player. MDA may have him play a much more efficient game more like Amare, which doesn't involve a lot of strict post ups. I'm very interested to see how Curry looks in this offense.

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11/11/2009  6:10 PM
nixluva wrote:MDA may have him play a much more efficient game more like Amare, which doesn't involve a lot of strict post ups. I'm very interested to see how Curry looks in this offense.

I've been asking for Curry to be played like that for years: Get him moving toward the basket facing forward trying to tear down the rim. He should catch the ball while moving forward. That is Curry's best game. He does not have low post moves.

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11/11/2009  6:16 PM
nixluva wrote:
kam77 wrote:
nixluva wrote:I repeat that when Curry's weight was under control he played 81 games and was a beast.

You can repeat it all you want. 7 rebounds and .5 blocks is not a beast. It's a tame creature.

He also turned the ball over 50% more that year he played 81 games.


He was unstoppable in the paint, that much we could use right about now. Yeah it was one thing, but it was a rare skill in this league with so few really dominant post up big men.

Besides Isiah and MDA aren't the same and It's not a given that MDA will use Curry the exact same way, which I feel was part of the reason for the TO's Remember he got most of his TO's on offensive fouls.

Another thing is that even in his best year with us, he wasn't in this kind of shape weight wise. It's possible that he could be even better and we don't know how MDA may effect his efficiency as a player. MDA may have him play a much more efficient game more like Amare, which doesn't involve a lot of strict post ups. I'm very interested to see how Curry looks in this offense.


I will agree with you there. I don't think he has ever looked as thin as he looks now, which really makes me say WTF. You mean IT could not put this guy on a training program to get him in shape. He did this in 1 freakin month!!! 1 month is all it took and we have been playing around with the fat Eddy for the past 4 years. Walsh needs to keep Curry on those two a days on his off day for the next 3 months because Curry could probably stand to lose another 10 lbs. and then they need to get him weightlighting and working on his legs. This dude needs a year-round workout regimen.

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11/11/2009  6:44 PM
jimimou wrote:
nixluva wrote:
jimimou wrote:the fact the we are waiting for eddy curry to be the savior for this team speaks volumes as to the mindset of the fans these days.....

Not so much a savior cuz we've got lots of other issues but he can change the way teams have to defend us and give us a chance to stabilize the offense. A guy like Gallo will benefit from his presence. When we spread the floor Curry will be able to get a ton of easy buckets or draw the foul. Dude it's gonna help! We have NOTHING in the post right now. A dominant big has to make it a bit easier on us.

nix - what makes you think eddy can keep up with the tempo of this new offense? i see him more as a liability than a positive. now, if the knicks were playing vangundy or riley type ball like back in the 90's where they deliberatly tried to slow down the game and work inside out w patrick, then maybe it could work b/c eddy wouldnt have to exert himself running up and down the floor.

another thing about eddy, when has he ever been an inside presence on defene?

I keep hering about this speed ball offensive, but we dont really run any speed ball offense cause we dont have the players to do it. so i dont see where curry will have a problem

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11/11/2009  8:46 PM
IMO if curry gets us 12pt and 7 rebs a game i would be very happy because i have him on my fantasy team!!! and i took flack for taking him offa waivers we shall see
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