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Bippity10
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11/2/2009  2:39 PM
kam77 wrote:I dont even think Gallo shot particularly well. We've seen him make 7 threes, against Miami, the other night he made 8. He missed his last couple in OT as his legs were shot.. but he was make one miss one all night, most he ever made in a row was three i believe.. It wasn't like he got hot or had a special night. He will have those nights where he shoots 9 of 12 from deep and scores 40.

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11/2/2009  2:39 PM
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I'm excited. I was excited about Nate, Lee, even Frye, and Balkman, and Ariza, and Chandler... they've all had their months of great performances.

Remember Nate's game against the Clips where it looked like he figured it all out? Remember that stretch of games with Collins where he was almost averaging a triple double?

I'm excited about Gallo, what he's doing so far and his attitude. Still, from the day he came here until his rookie contract is up, its going to be about where he was drafted versus the other players in the draft, and its the kind of player he is. If Randolph has a cold shooting night he can play solid defense and impact the game that way. If Gallo is cold, we're probably going to lose right?

God bless the kid. If we didn't have Gallo we'd be in a much worse spot, but that doesn't change the history of how he got here and the circumstances surrounding the pick.

We're a terrible team. You're going to have to have an insane stretch of performances sprinkled with at least a few wins to get the media/fans to start looking at anyone, let alone Gallo in a different light.

What do you think Randolph is, Bill Russell or something? If that kid isn't scoring and his teams needs him to do that, he'd have to be a beast defensively to really help his team win. Look most stars are the top scorers on their team. Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Dirk etc. Some guys like PG's are the point producers in terms of how the team plays and assists etc. Gallo can pass and defend pretty well and he should get even better. I think he can get a bit better as a rebounder, but he's not strong enough yet to really have an impact there. We have to give him a pass this year in that regard coming off his back surgery. Still don't you think it's impressive for a kid like Gallo to be having an impact after such a dry preseason? He wasn't down about it and when the bell rang he was ready. Gotta love that!!!


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11/2/2009  2:39 PM
gallo needs to show more passion...like his people...
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11/2/2009  2:50 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
kam77 wrote:I dont even think Gallo shot particularly well. We've seen him make 7 threes, against Miami, the other night he made 8. He missed his last couple in OT as his legs were shot.. but he was make one miss one all night, most he ever made in a row was three i believe.. It wasn't like he got hot or had a special night. He will have those nights where he shoots 9 of 12 from deep and scores 40.

Are you listening to yourself?


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lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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11/2/2009  2:57 PM
kam77 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
kam77 wrote:I dont even think Gallo shot particularly well.

Are you listening to yourself?


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He's made 18 of 36 threes. How is that not shooting particularly well?
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11/2/2009  3:09 PM
I think Kam meant for Gallo...meaning he thinks he has the potential to shoot even better.
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11/2/2009  3:11 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
kam77 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
kam77 wrote:I dont even think Gallo shot particularly well.

Are you listening to yourself?


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He's made 18 of 36 threes. How is that not shooting particularly well?

I'm not dissing the guy, i'm saying we haven't seen him at his best. He never reeled off like 5-6 in a row. I get the feeling we haven't seen the best of his shot. Him shooting 50% from three is obviously excellent, but i believe he can improve on that.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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11/2/2009  3:52 PM
kam77 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
kam77 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
kam77 wrote:I dont even think Gallo shot particularly well.

Are you listening to yourself?


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He's made 18 of 36 threes. How is that not shooting particularly well?

I'm not dissing the guy, i'm saying we haven't seen him at his best. He never reeled off like 5-6 in a row. I get the feeling we haven't seen the best of his shot. Him shooting 50% from three is obviously excellent, but i believe he can improve on that.

I think you will see nights like that. If his confidence grows you will see nights where he literally wins the game with his shot by hitting 4 or 5 in a row. I see what you are saying, but I regardless his 3's changed both of those games. Especially in the garden.

For the record: As a coach I'd rather see my guy hit one, miss one, then hit 5 miss 5.

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11/2/2009  4:06 PM
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TMS wrote:it's funny when u listen to people run through a list of guys they'd rather have than Gallinari from last year's draft, but name me how many other 2nd year players are averaging 23 & 5 over the first 3 games? short sample, sure, but how awesome is it to see a kid like Gallo starting to show signs that he maybe able to fulfill expectations, even of demanding & overly critical Knicks fans?

I wanted Speights at 6 and thru 3 games in a reserve role he is avging 17 and 7 with an assist and a block shooting 75% and is getting to the line 6 times per converting 82% of em. big man #'s.

gallo gets props for hitting a bunch of 3's with the knicks down 20 to getem back in games but that 23 & 5 has been more fantasy gold than actual games.

i have no problems with anyone who thought we needed a different type of player than Gallo... that's all personal preference... what i do have a problem with are guys who dismissed Gallo as a bust before they ever watched him play (u know as well as i do there were plenty of them on the boards over the past year & a half)... now that Gallo's showing some of the naysayers they may have been wrong about him, they're telling us we need to be patient w/this kid & not get overly excited over 3 games... where was that same patience over the past year & a half when they were calling this kis a bust is what i'm curious about... the same thing is happening with Jordan Hill now... it's insane... give these kids a chance to show what they can do before saying anything is my point

Gallo wasn't even my preference in last year's draft, i personally wanted to do whatever we could to trade up for OJ Mayo, or trade down & get more value out of the pick, but i gave Gallo the benefit of the doubt cuz MDA & Walsh were obviously high on him... based on what i've seen of him so far he looks like he's got a great head on his shoulders, he plays team first oriented basketball, he's a better defender than i ever thought he'd be & he's 1 of the better shooters i've seen at such a young age in the NBA... all these things seem to point towards him becoming a very valuable player for us for many years to come & be a perfect fit for MDA's system, as long as he can stay healthy... that is the lone worrisome caveat here, but so far this season so good.

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11/2/2009  4:10 PM
djsunyc wrote:gallo needs to show more passion...like his people...

Gallo is already better than Bargnani at this stage of his career.

Also, don't follow the lazy eye.

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11/2/2009  4:11 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/2/2009  4:13 PM
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#1-I would love to see diversity in his game as well. Everyone would. With time and strength you may see him more in the post and more on penetration. Remember he's being guarded by guys at least 3 inches shorter than him on average so yes, this could be a part of his game. We are all hoping for this eventually. This is the way he played in Europe, so the hope is he develops this in the NBA as well. Too early to say he won't develop this, or have you already decided this.

#2-If he continues to put up 20 points a game I could care less where it comes from. On dunks, on 3's, please as a basketball genius explain to me why this matters. Of course if he can't penetrate, and dish and to all the versatile things he will never be a superstar, but 20 points a game and shooting 40% on 3's in clutch situations because defenders can't affect your shot is as important as having a post up game.

#3-Enjoy the dead eye shooting and see if the guy develops. Again he's played 31 games.

#1-no i haven't already decided this but if he has it why sould we have to wait to see it? it isn't too much to ask a top pick to justify his draft pos in yr 2.

#2-as a fan of all things genious I'd like to see him make 3-4 miss 3-4, which is alot less than him make or missing 16 and a little more than your coaching perspective preference of going 50-/50 on 2 attempts.

#3-see answer 1

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11/2/2009  4:34 PM
McK1 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:

#1-I would love to see diversity in his game as well. Everyone would. With time and strength you may see him more in the post and more on penetration. Remember he's being guarded by guys at least 3 inches shorter than him on average so yes, this could be a part of his game. We are all hoping for this eventually. This is the way he played in Europe, so the hope is he develops this in the NBA as well. Too early to say he won't develop this, or have you already decided this.

#2-If he continues to put up 20 points a game I could care less where it comes from. On dunks, on 3's, please as a basketball genius explain to me why this matters. Of course if he can't penetrate, and dish and to all the versatile things he will never be a superstar, but 20 points a game and shooting 40% on 3's in clutch situations because defenders can't affect your shot is as important as having a post up game.

#3-Enjoy the dead eye shooting and see if the guy develops. Again he's played 31 games.

#1-no i haven't already decided this but if he has it why sould we have to wait to see it? it isn't too much to ask a top pick to justify his draft pos in yr 2.

#2-as a fan of all things genious I'd like to see him make 3-4 miss 3-4, which is alot less than him make or missing 16 and a little more than your coaching perspective preference of going 50-/50 on 2 attempts.

#3-see answer 1

#1-Why do you have to wait? Because he's 21 years old. Do you play basketball???? at 21 I could shot or blow by my guy. I had no mid range game to speak of. At ages 24-28 I started peaking because I mastered the mid range game. It took me 3 years to develop it, but ultimately I did. Now I'm no NBA player, but NBa players have to develop just like everyone else. Nobody comes into the league fully developed. Nobody. Again, watch Lopez handle a double team. I watched him singlehandedly let Minnesota back into the game against them because he couldn't pass out of the double team. Do Knick fans close the book on his ability to pass out of the double team or do they sit back and envision how good he will be if he learns. That's the same with Danilo. Danilo was a creator and a jumpshooter in Europe. Will he ever develop that here? Who knows. But 30 games into his career........I think you are simply frustrating yourself for no reason. Mark my words, using Danilo in the pick and roll is coming, and coming soon. Using him in the post will be common place when he starts to develop a more mature body and teams are still using 6-7 guys on him. This stuff is coming. Will he be good at it? It remains to be seen. Right now he's a jumpshooter because that's who he is. In the meantime enjoy the jumpers, they count as much as everyone elses layups.

#2-Coaches like consistency. If you miss one make one, I know what to expect. If you constantly miss five make five, I have to juggle my line-ups and try to guess when you will be on and when you will be off. Rolling the dice rarely works.

#3-See answer #1-What makes the great one's great? They add something every year. Nobody is fully developed. Those other 2nd year guys you think are fully developed have a ton of flaws. We just don't watch them as closely, and overanalyze and then get emotionally involved. We just covet.

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11/2/2009  4:51 PM
Bippity10 wrote:at 21 I could shot or blow by my guy. I had no mid range game to speak of. At ages 24-28 I started peaking because I mastered the mid range game. It took me 3 years to develop it, but ultimately I did.

Newsflash: It's not about you.

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11/2/2009  4:53 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:at 21 I could shot or blow by my guy. I had no mid range game to speak of. At ages 24-28 I started peaking because I mastered the mid range game. It took me 3 years to develop it, but ultimately I did.

Newsflash: It's not about you.

How long have you been posting with me???? It's always about me dimwit

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11/2/2009  4:55 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:at 21 I could shot or blow by my guy. I had no mid range game to speak of. At ages 24-28 I started peaking because I mastered the mid range game. It took me 3 years to develop it, but ultimately I did.

Newsflash: It's not about you.

How long have you been posting with me???? It's always about me dimwit

I've never posted "with" you.

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11/2/2009  4:58 PM
BasketballJones wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:at 21 I could shot or blow by my guy. I had no mid range game to speak of. At ages 24-28 I started peaking because I mastered the mid range game. It took me 3 years to develop it, but ultimately I did.

Newsflash: It's not about you.

How long have you been posting with me???? It's always about me dimwit

I've never posted "with" you.

Excuse me, I have pictures. Don't make me blackmail you.

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11/2/2009  5:02 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:at 21 I could shot or blow by my guy. I had no mid range game to speak of. At ages 24-28 I started peaking because I mastered the mid range game. It took me 3 years to develop it, but ultimately I did.

Newsflash: It's not about you.

How long have you been posting with me???? It's always about me dimwit

I've never posted "with" you.

Excuse me, I have pictures. Don't make me blackmail you.

btw bip a quick reality check: it's now 2 full days past halloween - you still in the scooby outfit?

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11/2/2009  5:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/2/2009  5:07 PM
^Sadly, I think you know the answer:

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11/2/2009  5:11 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! i never saw bip's video version before!!

bip at the hydrant!!!!

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11/2/2009  7:00 PM
Bippity10 wrote:
McK1 wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:

#1-I would love to see diversity in his game as well. Everyone would. With time and strength you may see him more in the post and more on penetration. Remember he's being guarded by guys at least 3 inches shorter than him on average so yes, this could be a part of his game. We are all hoping for this eventually. This is the way he played in Europe, so the hope is he develops this in the NBA as well. Too early to say he won't develop this, or have you already decided this.

#2-If he continues to put up 20 points a game I could care less where it comes from. On dunks, on 3's, please as a basketball genius explain to me why this matters. Of course if he can't penetrate, and dish and to all the versatile things he will never be a superstar, but 20 points a game and shooting 40% on 3's in clutch situations because defenders can't affect your shot is as important as having a post up game.

#3-Enjoy the dead eye shooting and see if the guy develops. Again he's played 31 games.

#1-no i haven't already decided this but if he has it why sould we have to wait to see it? it isn't too much to ask a top pick to justify his draft pos in yr 2.

#2-as a fan of all things genious I'd like to see him make 3-4 miss 3-4, which is alot less than him make or missing 16 and a little more than your coaching perspective preference of going 50-/50 on 2 attempts.

#3-see answer 1

#1-Why do you have to wait? Because he's 21 years old. Do you play basketball???? at 21 I could shot or blow by my guy. I had no mid range game to speak of. At ages 24-28 I started peaking because I mastered the mid range game. It took me 3 years to develop it, but ultimately I did. Now I'm no NBA player, but NBa players have to develop just like everyone else. Nobody comes into the league fully developed. Nobody. Again, watch Lopez handle a double team. I watched him singlehandedly let Minnesota back into the game against them because he couldn't pass out of the double team. Do Knick fans close the book on his ability to pass out of the double team or do they sit back and envision how good he will be if he learns. That's the same with Danilo. Danilo was a creator and a jumpshooter in Europe. Will he ever develop that here? Who knows. But 30 games into his career........I think you are simply frustrating yourself for no reason. Mark my words, using Danilo in the pick and roll is coming, and coming soon. Using him in the post will be common place when he starts to develop a more mature body and teams are still using 6-7 guys on him. This stuff is coming. Will he be good at it? It remains to be seen. Right now he's a jumpshooter because that's who he is. In the meantime enjoy the jumpers, they count as much as everyone elses layups.

#2-Coaches like consistency. If you miss one make one, I know what to expect. If you constantly miss five make five, I have to juggle my line-ups and try to guess when you will be on and when you will be off. Rolling the dice rarely works.

#3-See answer #1-What makes the great one's great? They add something every year. Nobody is fully developed. Those other 2nd year guys you think are fully developed have a ton of flaws. We just don't watch them as closely, and overanalyze and then get emotionally involved. We just covet.

#1-at 21 i was still tripping over my shoelaces. It prolly wasnt until about 25 when i figured out that if I double-knot them they won't be so long and I can run up and down the court just like everyone else.

bip gimme a break...these euro guys, including Gallo I believe, go pro at 14. His age/learning curve is not a precursor nor justification for why he is hoisting up 3's like he went to Antoine Walker's 4 point school. I didn't/don't expect even Bird's freshman year in college out of the so called Bird-lite but I would like to see him at least try - be it for his own shot or by creating high % opportunities for others - and take advantage of the defense by looking to post when he gets touches when they guard him with smaller players rather than instantly launch 3's over the top.

#2-with steve nash coaching the suns, MDA could just impersonate a masterful coach. No such luxury here which is why IMO we need gallo - whom is an instant mismatch and probably the best passer after david lee on the team - on the floor being as conventional with his touches as possible (especially when the alternatives is 30+ minutes of Jarred Jeffries).

#3-we found out in the Hawks game last year he can get his 3 off accurately anywhere over anybody spotting up or off the dribble anytime he wants. wheres the something new?


btw,
I doubt anyone here covets other teams players anymore, not even briggs...its not about the players per say but the plan. Right now it looks like Khan out in Minny definitely learned all he knows about putting a product on the floor from Walsh.

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