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Bippity10
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10/30/2009  3:07 PM
jimimou wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:
djsunyc wrote:
jimimou wrote:
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TheGame wrote:
Bippity10 wrote:By the way read the article about Lee being frustrated on the front page. A lot of "we need to do" and "we just gotta". That's part of that infection I talked about. That was what Jamal Crawford and Zach and Marbs used to always do. They would quit during the game, not play d, show no fire, no frustration. Then after the game they would give the media a ton of "we just gotta do x more consistently.........."

Lee's defense is terrible, and I don't understand it because he is a very athletic PF. O'Neal is bigger than him, but it is not like O'Neal is Shaq. We really need to get Darko on the court more. Although Lee is one of our best players, I would limit Lee to 30 minutes until he improves on defense.

As a coach you have no problem with one of your guys getting torched by an offensive player that is better then them. You can make adjustments. The problem is when your player does not make the other player work hard for their points. So that offensive player is as fresh in quarter 3 and 4 as they were in the first. I know David was in foul trouble early, but he let that affect his game from there on out. Add in the blown assignments when a team runs a play 3 times in a row and you have a disaster on your hands. Instead of saving that frustration for after the game and then discussing it with the media, how about take that frustration and body someone up or commit a tough foul? He never does this, he just accepts his beating with his hands straight up in the air.

a coach can only do so much - he can lead w a vision of what is expected of the team, he can prepare them, he can praise or criticize players when they do/do not perform...BUT....he cannot play on the floor with them. for any team to be successful, there needs to be a coach on the floor....the player who will be the extension of the coach in ensuring the team performs the way they are meant to when in an actual game. that is the problem with the knicks right now, they have no-one who has the capacity to assume that role...or not yet at least. lots of people made fun of larry brown when he said 'we dont have a head out there' referencing marbury....but, he was EXACTLY righ.

if i were going to route for the knicks this year, then i would take the personnel who are executing the gameplan on the floor into account when setting my expectations b/c lets face it, this team is going to lose alot of games this year b/c of the developmental immaturity of the players on the team. they dont know how to act the part of 'the head' b/c not one of them has ever been in a situation to do that since highschool probably when they were the overwhelming star for their respective teams. the nba is a man's game and a profession. in order to succeed in your profession, you have to not only talk the talk (like what was referenced about lee's qoutes above, and jamal and zbo's in the past) but you gotta walk the walk....these guys cant crawl yet, let alone walk.

i hope for the sake of the fans the knicks get what they're hoping for in free agency market next summer.

you're an idiot...bip can play for his players - he's that good...

I was the only coach in the history of basketball to win a championship with no players on the floor.

check that - fat joe won the rucker championship and his team didnt even have to play? What now bip?

I guess that means it's on between me and Fat Joe. Tell him to bring it on biotch.

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10/30/2009  4:16 PM
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nixluva wrote:No point can be proven after one good or bad game. Walsh has a clearly stated plan that was long overdue for this franchise. To get back to fiscal responsibility and clear out players that don't help you win. We have a great coach in place and some promising youngsters. More important is the cap room over the next TWO SUMMERS!!! Is that a small thing? Two summers with unprecendented quality FA's. We can now refashion this team exactly how we want it. We won't have to piece meal it together only to end up
mediocre again. This is about winning a title!

Does building a championship team involve drafting busts every year or no? Are those guys part of the future or no?

If LeBron decides not to come to this crap team, it will be interesting to hear your take on building a championship as opposed to signing someone just to get competitive.


who are the busts your refering to?

Let's see... Gallo and Hill as lotto picks is crazy, and should I be optimistic based on Walsh's resume? Should I give him the benefit of the doubt?

Between 1988 and now... how many All-Stars do you think that Walsh has drafted? Based on his reputation, you'd think that he's had at least a handful in 20 years right?

That's 20 years folks... Between Rick Smits until now... Danny Granger... that's the one All-Star he's picked.

Oh, but he's classy. I'll give Walsh that. He's a class act...

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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10/30/2009  5:37 PM
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CrushAlot wrote:The Knicks brought in D'Antoni because he was a presence, a winner. He wasn't Don Chaney or John McCloud. He is supposed to be a superior coach. Getting your players to play hard, work for a goal, and essentially be all about winning is what a superior coach is supposed to do. If the talent isn't there the team achieves at the highest level that it is capable of, works as hard as possible to win and that superior coach is constantly trying to find any little edge that will get his team to beat its opponent. I don't see that at all with D'Antoni. Instead I hear about a system that will work if the right guys are in place. It shouldn't be about the system, it should be about team goals and winning.

See I do think this is an overreaction to one game considering that last year effort was not our problem.

I think Knick fans are affected by movies like Hoosiers. They think a great coach can go to a bad team and magically turn them into winners, when in reality if you take all the bad teams in the world this has really happened like maybe one time, and that was in the movie Hoosiers. No coach, no matter how good wins without great players. That's why Phil Jackson only signs on with the teams with the best players.

My expectations are not for a huge turnaround but I want to see a team be competitive and prepared. D'Antoni was paid alot of money to coach the Knicks and has gotten a pass so far on his teams poor play. Given his reputation and contract D'Antoni's team should have come out of training camp prepared and able to compete. I didn't expect them to win but it was the first game of the season and there was no passion. I don't think you can give the coach a pass on that. My expectations are not based on a Hoosier type mentality. I have been a huge Knicks fan since 85 and have miss only about ten games a year since 89. I think the coach needs to be held accountable for his teams lack of success. He certainly is given alot of credit for what his teams in Phoenix accomplished.

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10/30/2009  6:15 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
JohnWallace44 wrote:
nixluva wrote:No point can be proven after one good or bad game. Walsh has a clearly stated plan that was long overdue for this franchise. To get back to fiscal responsibility and clear out players that don't help you win. We have a great coach in place and some promising youngsters. More important is the cap room over the next TWO SUMMERS!!! Is that a small thing? Two summers with unprecendented quality FA's. We can now refashion this team exactly how we want it. We won't have to piece meal it together only to end up
mediocre again. This is about winning a title!

Does building a championship team involve drafting busts every year or no? Are those guys part of the future or no?

If LeBron decides not to come to this crap team, it will be interesting to hear your take on building a championship as opposed to signing someone just to get competitive.


who are the busts your refering to?

Let's see... Gallo and Hill as lotto picks is crazy, and should I be optimistic based on Walsh's resume? Should I give him the benefit of the doubt?

Between 1988 and now... how many All-Stars do you think that Walsh has drafted? Based on his reputation, you'd think that he's had at least a handful in 20 years right?

That's 20 years folks... Between Rick Smits until now... Danny Granger... that's the one All-Star he's picked.

Oh, but he's classy. I'll give Walsh that. He's a class act...

Reggie Miller? Davis boys late in draft. Trade for Oneal. Donnie's team with those guys dominated for like a decade and were pretty much out of lottery for the whole time, no?

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10/30/2009  6:39 PM
Reggie was drafted in '87
Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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10/30/2009  6:52 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Reggie was drafted in '87

so it doesn't count on resume? I mean, are you trying to be objective or one-sided?

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10/30/2009  7:01 PM
Martin, I'm giving the guy a 20 year window, that's not objective enough?

I heard Walsh recommended Larry Bird to Red Auerbach in 1979, so that means he's a great GM right?

Dude is overrated. Knicks fans deserve to have someone better than this. We have gone longer than Walsh as far as drafting All-Stars.

Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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10/30/2009  7:39 PM
JohnWallace44 wrote:Martin, I'm giving the guy a 20 year window, that's not objective enough?

I heard Walsh recommended Larry Bird to Red Auerbach in 1979, so that means he's a great GM right?

Dude is overrated. Knicks fans deserve to have someone better than this. We have gone longer than Walsh as far as drafting All-Stars.

within that 20 year arbitrarily objective window, Walsh's team made it to playoffs 13 of 18 years. Finals too. One of the dominating teams of the 90s.

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