sebstar goodpoint on ward. ward had no hoop cred no opposing player feared him. he made a nba career for himself thanks to his resume and he rarely caused management headaches.

Odd game to watch, similar to the SL games, not sure what you can take away from it.

Defense looks better, but the offense looks like they haven't even worked on it.

Aside from Danillo and Lee, it didn't look like anyone had a clue on offense.

On the Chandler comments, the dude's our best player and I don't think its close.

I hope that during regular season games that he drives the ball more. As long as he takes more free throws than threes he'll be great. That was a ratio that we always wanted Crawford to get to.

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Odd game to watch, similar to the SL games, not sure what you can take away from it.

Defense looks better, but the offense looks like they haven't even worked on it.

Aside from Danillo and Lee, it didn't look like anyone had a clue on offense.

On the Chandler comments, the dude's our best player and I don't think its close.

I hope that during regular season games that he drives the ball more. As long as he takes more free throws than threes he'll be great. That was a ratio that we always wanted Crawford to get to.

Chandler is the best player on the knicks, by far. And sorry guys, I think this guy has a few more levels he can take it up. He can be a go to late in games, and develop some signature moves and operate in the post some more.

Big difference between Chandler and Lebron, and most of that is personality related. Both guys are 6-8, 240.

Posted by coolbeans:

sebstar goodpoint on ward. ward had no hoop cred no opposing player feared him. he made a nba career for himself thanks to his resume and he rarely caused management headaches.

Banned!

Two problems that I see. We really needed a PG improvement in the offseason and we did not get one. For this team to be really good some day--there is an obvious need for a high caliber PG.


We have Hill Darko and possibly Curry back--they have to make reasonable and worthy contributions.
It's pretty scary that we hear that Jordan Hill is raw--thats really scary of such a high pick. Usually a guy who is considered raw picked in the top 10 usually busts--how many names are out there that went from raw to good player?? He can do some things but his body language was just horrible even for day 1. Darko blocked a shot but his body language also wasnt great. I only ask that we get a 7 footer who can dunk opr lay the ball up. I dont want this guy taking 10 foot J's--this is where a steady heady PG may come in to say Darko go here stay here and get ready for a pass.

We'll see next game when we get several big bodies and quality long players in the paint. Lee is a good player but we cant bank on him holding the fort down by himself.


That Net team is terrible. C Lee will help them but that teams scks. They absolutely made a mistake bypassing either Blair or Tyler H--but they might not be alone:( They have a real nice two man foundation up the middle but the rest of that team is a joke. I can see them getting a top 3-5 pick.

Posted by coolbeans:

sebstar goodpoint on ward. ward had no hoop cred no opposing player feared him. he made a nba career for himself thanks to his resume and he rarely caused management headaches.

Ward was no star, but he was a solid player on some good Knicks teams.

Who cares if players fear you? ...And what the heck is "hoop cred" and is there a panel who determines your cred rating?


By the way, I thought that Ward did cause some problems in his later years his Christianity became a little too uncomfortable for some folks.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Two problems that I see. We really needed a PG improvement in the offseason and we did not get one. For this team to be really good some day--there is an obvious need for a high caliber PG.


We have Hill Darko and possibly Curry back--they have to make reasonable and worthy contributions.
It's pretty scary that we hear that Jordan Hill is raw--thats really scary of such a high pick. Usually a guy who is considered raw picked in the top 10 usually busts--how many names are out there that went from raw to good player?? He can do some things but his body language was just horrible even for day 1. Darko blocked a shot but his body language also wasnt great. I only ask that we get a 7 footer who can dunk opr lay the ball up. I dont want this guy taking 10 foot J's--this is where a steady heady PG may come in to say Darko go here stay here and get ready for a pass.

We'll see next game when we get several big bodies and quality long players in the paint. Lee is a good player but we cant bank on him holding the fort down by himself.


That Net team is terrible. C Lee will help them but that teams scks. They absolutely made a mistake bypassing either Blair or Tyler H--but they might not be alone:( They have a real nice two man foundation up the middle but the rest of that team is a joke. I can see them getting a top 3-5 pick.

re: your first two points (we need a PG and jordan hill isn't ready)

it's pretty annoying that hill's salary slot in 2010 is pretty much what we could have paid Sessions in 2010.

Posted by BRIGGS:

Two problems that I see. We really needed a PG improvement in the offseason and we did not get one. For this team to be really good some day--there is an obvious need for a high caliber PG.


We have Hill Darko and possibly Curry back--they have to make reasonable and worthy contributions.
It's pretty scary that we hear that Jordan Hill is raw--thats really scary of such a high pick. Usually a guy who is considered raw picked in the top 10 usually busts--how many names are out there that went from raw to good player?? He can do some things but his body language was just horrible even for day 1. Darko blocked a shot but his body language also wasnt great. I only ask that we get a 7 footer who can dunk opr lay the ball up. I dont want this guy taking 10 foot J's--this is where a steady heady PG may come in to say Darko go here stay here and get ready for a pass.

We'll see next game when we get several big bodies and quality long players in the paint. Lee is a good player but we cant bank on him holding the fort down by himself.


That Net team is terrible. C Lee will help them but that teams scks. They absolutely made a mistake bypassing either Blair or Tyler H--but they might not be alone:( They have a real nice two man foundation up the middle but the rest of that team is a joke. I can see them getting a top 3-5 pick.

Is this an admission that Hasheem Thabeet is a bust?

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by BRIGGS:

Two problems that I see. We really needed a PG improvement in the offseason and we did not get one. For this team to be really good some day--there is an obvious need for a high caliber PG.


We have Hill Darko and possibly Curry back--they have to make reasonable and worthy contributions.
It's pretty scary that we hear that Jordan Hill is raw--thats really scary of such a high pick. Usually a guy who is considered raw picked in the top 10 usually busts--how many names are out there that went from raw to good player?? He can do some things but his body language was just horrible even for day 1. Darko blocked a shot but his body language also wasnt great. I only ask that we get a 7 footer who can dunk opr lay the ball up. I dont want this guy taking 10 foot J's--this is where a steady heady PG may come in to say Darko go here stay here and get ready for a pass.

We'll see next game when we get several big bodies and quality long players in the paint. Lee is a good player but we cant bank on him holding the fort down by himself.


That Net team is terrible. C Lee will help them but that teams scks. They absolutely made a mistake bypassing either Blair or Tyler H--but they might not be alone:( They have a real nice two man foundation up the middle but the rest of that team is a joke. I can see them getting a top 3-5 pick.

Is this an admission that Hasheem Thabeet is a bust?

Bynum too, if you play the way-back machine.

The New York panic machine kicks in after the first exhibition game.

Posted by Caseloads:

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Odd game to watch, similar to the SL games, not sure what you can take away from it.

Defense looks better, but the offense looks like they haven't even worked on it.

Aside from Danillo and Lee, it didn't look like anyone had a clue on offense.

On the Chandler comments, the dude's our best player and I don't think its close.

I hope that during regular season games that he drives the ball more. As long as he takes more free throws than threes he'll be great. That was a ratio that we always wanted Crawford to get to.

Chandler is the best player on the knicks, by far. And sorry guys, I think this guy has a few more levels he can take it up. He can be a go to late in games, and develop some signature moves and operate in the post some more.

Big difference between Chandler and Lebron, and most of that is personality related. Both guys are 6-8, 240.

Chandler isn't LeBron. He doesn't have the court awareness or the build to drive it like LeBron, but Chandler can be and almost is every bit of Richard Jefferson, and RJ was an All Star.

I agree with Briggs on the PG comments.

Frustrating thing, still, is that Nate has the ability, maybe its his short wingspan that keeps him from passing, I don't know, but he's the only guard we have that can get in the lane whenever he wants.

If we had a PG who could get to the elbow and have the option of going to Lee under the basket, Chandler or Al posting, or Danillo beyond the arc... who beats you? Only the elite teams. (assuming said PG could defend as well)

With Hill glued to the bench, people are going to be watching Holiday, Teague, and all the other 1st round PG's to see if we missed there.