Posted by Olbrannon:

Some vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5pKslHoYaQ of last years ACC semi-final tournament game. Lawson was seated during this game. In the game at the Civic Center in Tallahassee
UNC won on a last second buzzer beater by Lawson. After the game Lawson was quoted as saying about Toney.."I didn't know he was that good."

After his fresman year at Auburn ..TD tested NBA waters but withdrew from the draft. A move that was not appreciated by Auburn's coach. So he transfers to FSU and sits a year.

His first year on the floor at FSU he teams with Al Thorton (now with the Clippers) and makes some noise. Upsetting U of Florida (Lee on that squad iirc with Nick Calathes, Udonis Haslem and Yoachim Noah} and Duke they seemed primed to make it to the NCAA but Toney breaks an ankle and the 'Noles drop the next 6 in a row...settling for the NIT's

Next year. Alabi has issues and FSU with no inside presence plays a 4 guard line-up much of the season. NIT's

Last year. The season begin with a freshman dominated roster. Toney takes it upon himself to get them ready. FSU is picked to end up as the number 8-9 finisher in conference play. It is ugly basketball accentuating defense most of the early season...Toney sometimes carries the team on his back to a win.

What I didn't like about Toney: he showed this in Summer League as well...sometimes picks up his dribble and more than once was called for over and back. I believe D'Antoni has coached him over this cause I don't see it in the scrimmage footage that I have seen.

I've been a Seminole basketball fan long enough to have personally watched (TV) Cowens vs Artis Gilmore, Sura, Ward and Cassel. (BTW anyone notice how much Duhon looks like Sam?)

Toney's game is not like Ward's. Toney does not fear the paint. He is stronger and maybe faster. Ward was more cerebral. The rest of the intangibles ...leading by example...yada yada Toney has them.

The press is all wrapped up in the idea of him as a shooter. Bah. He is a point first but can rotate to two to make a mismatch if it's there.

I remember reading of "Clyde" showng up in the Garden all decked out for a game. If it were Toney doing this he'd dress in coveralls and bring a hardhat and a lunch pail. He is a gamer and never quits.

Prediction- if the Knicks fall short of the playoffs...expect Toney to break down and cry...he is that into it. And expect Toney to be a great pairing with Nate. They will be good for each other I think.