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8/28/2009  2:42 PM
Posted by sebstar:

Its just funny that you dropped what seemed to be this Napalm bomb by saying that Isiah doesn't even recognize his own kid!! Its was supposed to be the ultimate damnation of his character. Then you recoil in horror and become completely indignant when I mentioned that Bird has done the same. You spend the next few posts scrambling to recover once you recognized how much of a double standard you were engaging in.


Exactly. I didn't detect any Wink and a when Nalod was rattling off about the out of wedlock kid etc......but I did detect people getting very defensive and taking on a "how dare you put Isiah and Bird in the same sentence" attitude.
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8/28/2009  11:00 PM
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by sebstar:

Its just funny that you dropped what seemed to be this Napalm bomb by saying that Isiah doesn't even recognize his own kid!! Its was supposed to be the ultimate damnation of his character. Then you recoil in horror and become completely indignant when I mentioned that Bird has done the same. You spend the next few posts scrambling to recover once you recognized how much of a double standard you were engaging in.


Exactly. I didn't detect any Wink and a when Nalod was rattling off about the out of wedlock kid etc......but I did detect people getting very defensive and taking on a "how dare you put Isiah and Bird in the same sentence" attitude.

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Like I said before don't defend Larry Bird the man called the New York Knicks killer from Boston. The Celtic are our arch enemy and I have no love for them. In the name of basketball only I don't like Larry Bird. Bird beat us up so bad that I stll have nightmairs that he may come back.

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8/29/2009  12:24 AM
/5/09 Athletes With Illegitimate Kids: The Comprehensive List Athletes With Illegitimate Kids: Expanded And Updated 2009 Edition

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It's been almost a full year since I last brought out this list of athletes with illegitimate kids. Or as I like to call it, the Athlete Illegitimate Kid Bible. But thanks to Larry Fitzgerald and Michael Turner having squared off this weekend in the Cardinals/Falcons Wild Card game, combined with the fact that I've been able to follow up on a lot of tips (Scott Skiles alert) over the last year, I figured it was time update the list again for everyone's enjoyment.

But first off, let's get to Fitzgerald and Turner. Fitzgerald, as you've probably heard, got into a domestic scuffle last October that only became public knowledge last week because the woman involved in it finally filed a restraining order on Fitzgerald. But also contained in reports was the fact that the woman was the mother of Fitzgerald's 11-month old kid. As you can guess, they aren't married. Welcome to the club, Larry. By the way, I should probably mention here that more than a year ago, Fitzgerald tried to force this woman into getting an abortion. I guess this recent news would confirm that didn't happen.

As for Turner, he got into a domestic dispute with "the mother of his infant child" (translation: his baby mama) last week, but luckily, he didn't get tabbed with a restraining order. Nor was he arrested. But he too, joins the athletes with illegitimate kids list.

Now, those are fairly tame bits of philandering, I mean aside from the beating women part. The big prize from research done this last year is Scott Skiles. Skiles reportedly has at least 6 illegitimate kids, and possibly 8. He has a former wife who's been more than happy to spill the details of what a cheating bastard he was, but she's never been able to confirm how many Skiles Juniors there are out there. Multiple people have told me, including a reporter doing research on the subject, that Skiles has a minimum of 6, but because he pays the monthly child support, no ones really sure how many he has.

And that's pretty much the case with all athletes. The only way you tend to figure out how many illegitimate kids they have is if they stop paying child support. And sometimes, that doesn't even get you close to the real number of kids.

By the way, another guy I should note who came up this last year was Karl Malone, who unbelievably got a 13-year-old girl pregnant when he was a sophomore at Lousiana Tech. How'd we learn that? Well, that kid was drafted by the Buffalo Bills in 2008, and pretty much spilled the beans on how Malone had ignored him his whole life. Malone also has another illegitimate daughter who plays in the WNBA.

Anyway, before we get to the complete list, first a story from a reader about prodigal son Shawn Kemp, who started me on this journey to chronicle every illegitimate kid fathered by an athlete. It's a story for the ages.


In college I was an intern for the Portland Trailblazers (mind you, this was during their Jailblazers heyday while Shawn Kemp was there). I did a bunch of stuff for the PR Department and one day I was filing a bunch of stuff in the office and I came across the Player Questionnaires that they have each new player fill out when they are acquired. It gives them some stupid personal info to include in the media guide and for the announcers and what not. Anyway, on Shawn Kemp’s questionnaire under hobbies it said, “girls”. And my personal favorite – under favorite breakfast he listed, “girls”.

Classic.

As always, feel free to let me know if I missed anyone.

ATHLETES WITH ILLEGITIMATE KIDS

THE HEAVYWEIGHTS
Calvin Murphy - 14 illegitimate kids by 9 women. You sir are our current champion.
Travis Henry - 9 kids by 9 women. All of this by 28. Impressive. He is on pace to catch Calvin. The fact that he's broke from paying child support may slow him down though.
Ex-San Antonio Spur Willie Anderson - 9 illegitimate kids. If only his field goal percentage had been as high as his impregnation rate.
Evander Holyfield - 9 illegitimate kids. Has more kids than brain cells left.
Jason Caffey - 8 kids by 7 women.
UPDATE - Shawn Kemp - 7 illegitimate kids by 6 women last time. Supposedly up to 11 kids by 9 women now. Gives his nickname of the Reign Man new meaning. Might also explain why he nearly played with an Italian team late in 2008.
Derrick Thomas - 7 illegitimate kids by 5 women. He died at 33. Let's just leave it at that.
UNCONFIRMED - Dominique Wilkins - reportedly played so long in the NBA because, according to a Magic front office employee, he was paying money on 20 paternity suits. Any further confirmation would be awesome.

THE MIDDLEWEIGHTS
NEW MEMBER - Scott Skiles - At least 6 kids, possibly more.
Ray Lewis - 6 kids by 4 women.
Marshall Faulk - 6 kids by 3 women. Which is probably why he considered coming out of retirement.
Larry Johnson (basketball) - 5 kids by 4 women. 3 are illegitimate.
Charles Rogers - Uber-NFL Draft bust reportedly has 5 illegitimate kids...and no paycheck. Definitely the makings of a solid family.
Vlad Guerrero - 4 kids by 4 women.
Oscar De La Hoya - 4 kids (courtesy of Fark)
Santonio Holmes - 3 illegitimate kids by two women, before leaving college.
Former Celtic Greg Minor - 3 illegitimate kids.
Ricky Williams - 3 illegitimate kids. Maybe that's why he smokes so much weed.
Priest Holmes - 3 illegitimate kids. You best keep running Priest.
Chad Johnson - Has 3 illegitimate kids.
Mike Bibby - apparently had two before leaving 'Zona.

THE LIGHTNING FAST GROUP
Willis McGahee - 3 illegitimate kids in 2 years in Buffalo. Not a lot to do in Buffalo, except make babies. Lots and lots of babies. Not sure what he's done since in Baltimore, but I can take a guess.
Shannon "Horseface" Sharpe - 3 as well. Supposedly had those three all in one year.

THE GUYS YOU WOULDN'T EXPECT GROUP
Dwight Howard
Walter Herrmann
Peja Stojakovic
Wizards Coach Eddie Jordan
NHL player Daniel Alfredsson
NHL player Richard Zednik
Mike Miller
Marvin Harrison
Tracy McGrady
NEW MEMBER - Keith Van Horn

THE FAMOUS OLD GUYS GROUP
Steve Garvey - 2 illegitimate kids by 2 women.
Dr. J - 2 illegitimate kids by 2 women. I actually met one of them.
Larry Bird
Isiah Thomas
Jim Palmer
Darryl Strawberry
Pete Rose
Tug McGraw

THE GETTING A HEAD START GROUP
Gary Sheffield - Had 2 illegitimate kids by age 17. Added a few more later on in life.
NEW MEMBER - Tom Gordon - Former relief pitcher had three illegitimate kids by age 17.

THE THAT'S JUST WRONG GROUP
Elijah Dukes - Impregnated a 17-year-old foster child. Also has 4 more illegitimate kids - making him a middleweight as well.
NEW MEMBER - Karl Malone - Got a 13-year-old girl pregnant. Also possibly the world's worst dad.

THE QB KIDS GROUP
Matt Leinart - already has one, my guess is he's working hard on another.
Tom Brady - the dream baby will one day rule the NFL.

KEEP YOUR EYE ON THIS GUY GROUP
Noel Devine - He's not an official member yet because he's not a pro. He's just a sophomore at West Virginia. But he had 2 illegitimate kids in high school, and possibly more. Keep it going Noel, a good start, but you've got a long way to go.

GUYS WITH AT LEAST ONE ILLEGITIMATE KID
NEW MEMBER - Larry Fitzgerald
NEW MEMBER - Michael Turner
Antawn Jamison
Chipper Jones
DeShawn Stevenson
Cliff Floyd
Mark Messier
Brian Urlacher
Rae Carruth - Yes, he fathered an illegitimate kid before the incident where he had his pregnant girlfriend gunned down.
Juan Gonzalez
Andre Rison
David Justice
Andruw Jones
Alonzo Spellman
Dave Meggett
Gary Payton - From a reader: The best part about Gary Payton is that his illegitimate kid is named "Gary Payton, Jr." so that when his wife (or whatever) had a kid, and he wanted a junior, he couldn't do it without major confusion, so he named his legitimate kid "Gary Payton II."
Stephon Marbury
Jason Kidd
Allen Iverson
Latrell Sprewell
Juwan Howard
Kenny Anderson
Scottie Pippen
Hakeem Olajuwon
Patrick Ewing
Randy Johnson

So in other words, the moral of the story is wrap it up tight. Unless you're a professional athlete. Then just do whatever the hell you want

I don't think if you did a search about attempted suicide cover ups, sexual harrassment, racist statements, calling out fans, making chauvinstic statements on tape etc. that you would find this big a list. If your name is on all of these lists and you are trying to rebuild your image, threatening to backout of a tournament to raise money and awareness about cancer is not a wise move and certainly will bring up past issues about your character.
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8/29/2009  10:41 AM
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by sebstar:

Again, I think a lot of the Anucha case is fabricated. I cant see how Zeke would sexually harass somebody that is that overwhelmingly unattractive. I think she saw how polarizing Zeke is in this city and took a stab at being rich ---- good decision, I guess.

is the sole basis for your stance on it her looks?

Yep.

f8ck yeah




The man can possibly have any women he wants and you people actually believed this is what he settled for??? lmao
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8/29/2009  11:03 AM
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by sebstar:

Again, I think a lot of the Anucha case is fabricated. I cant see how Zeke would sexually harass somebody that is that overwhelmingly unattractive. I think she saw how polarizing Zeke is in this city and took a stab at being rich ---- good decision, I guess.

is the sole basis for your stance on it her looks?

Yep.

f8ck yeah




The man can possibly have any women he wants and you people actually believed this is what he settled for??? lmao

Guys, I mean come on here Star Jones, Rhea Pearlman, Courtney Love, Amy Winehouse, hell, even Rosie O'Donnell found someone to have sex with.

Ever think Isiah's eye for women was on par with his eye for non-draft talent and contracts?

[Edited by - joec32033 on 29 August 2009 11:04]
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8/29/2009  11:03 AM
...although she does look like Patrick Ewing in drag....I've seen her at some stores up here in Buffalo...
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8/29/2009  11:30 AM
If Isiah wanted to yell and curse at someone who looks like that he should have just brought back Gerald Wilkins.
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8/29/2009  11:56 AM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by sebstar:

Again, I think a lot of the Anucha case is fabricated. I cant see how Zeke would sexually harass somebody that is that overwhelmingly unattractive. I think she saw how polarizing Zeke is in this city and took a stab at being rich ---- good decision, I guess.

is the sole basis for your stance on it her looks?

Yep.

f8ck yeah




The man can possibly have any women he wants and you people actually believed this is what he settled for??? lmao

Guys, I mean come on here Star Jones, Rhea Pearlman, Courtney Love, Amy Winehouse, hell, even Rosie O'Donnell found someone to have sex with.

Ever think Isiah's eye for women was on par with his eye for non-draft talent and contracts?
[Edited by - joec32033 on 29 August 2009 11:04]


LOL.....
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8/29/2009  12:20 PM
well that ugly-ass babe is one smart strong woman. and isiah is even more of a weak ass stupid man for trying to pull his bs on her - and getting totally nailed.

the isiah supporters have brought absolutely zero substance to this thread other than their blind faith. isiah has earned a permanent place in the hall of derision among knick fans for his tenure here. those who continue to pledge allegiance to his stinky-ass flag better brace themselves.
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8/29/2009  1:51 PM
Posted by Uptown:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by sebstar:

Again, I think a lot of the Anucha case is fabricated. I cant see how Zeke would sexually harass somebody that is that overwhelmingly unattractive. I think she saw how polarizing Zeke is in this city and took a stab at being rich ---- good decision, I guess.

is the sole basis for your stance on it her looks?

Yep.

f8ck yeah




The man can possibly have any women he wants and you people actually believed this is what he settled for??? lmao

Guys, I mean come on here Star Jones, Rhea Pearlman, Courtney Love, Amy Winehouse, hell, even Rosie O'Donnell found someone to have sex with.

Ever think Isiah's eye for women was on par with his eye for non-draft talent and contracts?
[Edited by - joec32033 on 29 August 2009 11:04]


LOL.....


holy sh!!!t. I just realized, my 1,000 post was a LOL. Well at least my 1,000 post said more than any of my previous 999.....
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8/29/2009  2:18 PM
Posted by Marv:

well that ugly-ass babe is one smart strong woman. and isiah is even more of a weak ass stupid man for trying to pull his bs on her - and getting totally nailed.

the isiah supporters have brought absolutely zero substance to this thread other than their blind faith. isiah has earned a permanent place in the hall of derision among knick fans for his tenure here. those who continue to pledge allegiance to his stinky-ass flag better brace themselves.

Well said. I question the intention of someone who truly puts up a defense for Thomas. I mean bringing up Layden 7 years after he got fired? This was Isiah's team. By his 2nd year, all of Layden's players were gone. He created this mess on the court and especially off of it.
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8/29/2009  2:43 PM
Well, I for one shall remain forever loyal to Cap'n Zeke. You have to remember that the Cap'n inherited a less-than seaworthy vessel from his incompetent predecessor. First he had to jettison the incompetent crew he had, and replace them with younger and more athletic seamen. In so doing, he was not able to get the very best seamen available, and he did have to over-pay them, and they didn't really perform very well, but he DID get rid of the prior crew. Cap'n Zeke guided the vessel through stormy seas and had to contend with a crew that was at times mutinous, as in the case of that treacherous scurvy dog Larry Brown. Given all that he had to contend with, he did pretty well to steer the ship up on the rocks. Things could have been worse. As it is, he left behind a ship that can still be salvaged by Cap'n Walsh and his new crew.
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8/29/2009  5:25 PM
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All you have to do is mention something about Isaiah on this blog and people go crazy.This news has little to do about nothing. The man is gone and he was one of the best point guards to play the game and that you can't take away from him. He messed up in New York and got fired just like other GMs and coaches. He has an oportunity to redeem himself everywhere but New York. I wish him well, I also wish Michael Vick well and hope that he asked God for forgiveness and go out on speaking tours talking about being cruel to animals is wrong and a crime.

I wholly agree. Who cares about FIU basketball. If IT was not there, this would not have even been a story. In fact, I live in Florida and I can tell no one down here cares. It is just the NY media and ESPN, which has always hated IT, that even mentions this ****. Let's move on. IT was a great PG, probably one of the top-10 of all-time. IT was a solid drafter, nothing great but solid. IT was probably the worst GM in terms of trades and FA signing in the last 15 years. We ridiculed him for it and he got fired. But it is time to move on. We moved on with Larry Brown, who was no saint himself. Let's let IT go try to redeem himself at FIU and move on to the problems we still have with the Knicks.

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8/29/2009  5:30 PM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Swishfm3:
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by sebstar:

Again, I think a lot of the Anucha case is fabricated. I cant see how Zeke would sexually harass somebody that is that overwhelmingly unattractive. I think she saw how polarizing Zeke is in this city and took a stab at being rich ---- good decision, I guess.

is the sole basis for your stance on it her looks?

Yep.

f8ck yeah




The man can possibly have any women he wants and you people actually believed this is what he settled for??? lmao

Guys, I mean come on here Star Jones, Rhea Pearlman, Courtney Love, Amy Winehouse, hell, even Rosie O'Donnell found someone to have sex with.

Ever think Isiah's eye for women was on par with his eye for non-draft talent and contracts
?

[Edited by - joec32033 on 29 August 2009 11:04]

LOL
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8/29/2009  9:23 PM
Posted by TheGame:
Posted by Papabear:

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All you have to do is mention something about Isaiah on this blog and people go crazy.This news has little to do about nothing. The man is gone and he was one of the best point guards to play the game and that you can't take away from him. He messed up in New York and got fired just like other GMs and coaches. He has an oportunity to redeem himself everywhere but New York. I wish him well, I also wish Michael Vick well and hope that he asked God for forgiveness and go out on speaking tours talking about being cruel to animals is wrong and a crime.

I wholly agree. Who cares about FIU basketball. If IT was not there, this would not have even been a story. In fact, I live in Florida and I can tell no one down here cares. It is just the NY media and ESPN, which has always hated IT, that even mentions this ****. Let's move on. IT was a great PG, probably one of the top-10 of all-time. IT was a solid drafter, nothing great but solid. IT was probably the worst GM in terms of trades and FA signing in the last 15 years. We ridiculed him for it and he got fired. But it is time to move on. We moved on with Larry Brown, who was no saint himself. Let's let IT go try to redeem himself at FIU and move on to the problems we still have with the Knicks.

hey i'm not searching for reasons to bring his name up but trust me if it appears i'll goof on him. same as I do for lbrown, steph & layden.
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8/29/2009  10:10 PM
If you hire an @ss clown you can't get mad if people react when he starts his act. It started on Day 1 when Isiah Thompson was introduced.
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Isiah Thomas already up to more BS

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