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EnySpree
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7/24/2009  6:19 AM
So Lee is responsible for 7 wins?....Knicks add front court depth, have hughes/harrington for a full season, Gallo will be healthy, Chandler back, maybe an up and coming point guard and the Knicks will lose 7 games???

Stop crying King1. Lee is obviously asking for too much money. Over paying for guys like Curry, Bogut or whoever has nothing to do with this season or GM. If that is what his Agent is pushing he is a freakin idiot. If you know Lee tell him to fire his agent after this is done with. Lee would be a Knick if the price was fair.

BTW, if he wants a certain $$$ amount and the Knicks won't give it to him...then who's fault is that? Stop dicking around and explore the sign and trades. Lee said they they are just now starting to toy with it. That shoulda been the case from the begining...its late in the off-season now.

Also...when Donnie explained Lee's options he did mention "sitting out". He said he thinks it won't get to that, but just cuz he said that means that he and the Knicks are prepared to go into the season without him. In other words, time goes on and the Knicks will not be held hostage by a dude cuz he wants more money. Lee hasn't had a multi-million dollar deal yet. What is he demanding?
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7/24/2009  7:07 AM
What do you get out of posting here, DJ? You don't do anything other than knock Knicks' fans. It's like your goal is to "correct" Knicks fans so that they'll start thinking more "rationally." I don't see how that could be an enjoyable use of your time.


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7/24/2009  11:58 AM
A point guard who cant and wont shoot the 3-ball... to be brought into D'Antoni's system no less... wonderful.
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7/24/2009  4:42 PM
Posted by subzero0:

A point guard who cant and wont shoot the 3-ball... to be brought into D'Antoni's system no less... wonderful.

This is a 2nd year player with a lot of strengths to his game. You're not gonna get a flawless player for the MLE.
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7/24/2009  4:47 PM
Not everyone has to be good at shooting the 3. We have Gallo (Hopefully) Harrington, Duhon, maybe Nate, Darko, maybe Chandler. Hughes can put it in now and then too. 3 point shooting isn't our problem. It's one of the few things that isn't our problem.
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7/24/2009  4:59 PM
Another young guy with potential added to the mix of a rebuilding team, if this works out.

The 5 year deal would be a risk(again if this is true). If he turns out to be a very good player than you got a steal. If he turns out to be simply a good/solid player than he's tradeable so the length isn't a huge concern. Problem comes in if he stinks. Does he stink?
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7/24/2009  5:01 PM
what is the point of going full mid for another point guard that isn't adept at setting people up for close to mid range scores.

SLs showed you can stick Tony Douglas out there for the drive and kick for long jumpshots O.

Sessions is taller so he can slide over and play the 2 like he did for the Bucks but other than that I don't see much sepersting the two.

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7/24/2009  5:02 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

Another young guy with potential added to the mix of a rebuilding team, if this works out.

The 5 year deal would be a risk(again if this is true). If he turns out to be a very good player than you got a steal. If he turns out to be simply a good/solid player than he's tradeable so the length isn't a huge concern. Problem comes in if he stinks. Does he stink?

You stink.
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7/24/2009  5:03 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by Bippity10:

Another young guy with potential added to the mix of a rebuilding team, if this works out.

The 5 year deal would be a risk(again if this is true). If he turns out to be a very good player than you got a steal. If he turns out to be simply a good/solid player than he's tradeable so the length isn't a huge concern. Problem comes in if he stinks. Does he stink?

You stink.

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7/24/2009  5:03 PM
this guy can definitely play... a guy like Fishlips on a full MLE is a huge albatross cuz no one wants that guy at those level dollars, but a guy like Sessions at MLE dollars seems reasonable to me... if Nate were a distributor of the ball i'd have wanted to sign him up to MLE dollars too, but he's not & we have enough scorers of the ball on this team... we need someone who can be a head out on the floor & if Sessions works out he can definitely be that for us... i don't have a problem if we sign this guy up longterm at MLE dollars... he's young, talented & fills a big need.
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7/24/2009  5:06 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by Bippity10:

Another young guy with potential added to the mix of a rebuilding team, if this works out.

The 5 year deal would be a risk(again if this is true). If he turns out to be a very good player than you got a steal. If he turns out to be simply a good/solid player than he's tradeable so the length isn't a huge concern. Problem comes in if he stinks. Does he stink?

You stink.

Dude!

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7/24/2009  5:10 PM
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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7/24/2009  5:11 PM
Posted by TMS:

this guy can definitely play... a guy like Fishlips on a full MLE is a huge albatross cuz no one wants that guy at those level dollars, but a guy like Sessions at MLE dollars seems reasonable to me... if Nate were a distributor of the ball i'd have wanted to sign him up to MLE dollars too, but he's not & we have enough scorers of the ball on this team... we need someone who can be a head out on the floor & if Sessions works out he can definitely be that for us... i don't have a problem if we sign this guy up longterm at MLE dollars... he's young, talented & fills a big need.

I haven't seen enough of his game to judge. Only time I've seen him play was when he was torching Duhon and Nate. I will say that I agree, if he turns out to be starter material than 5+ per is probably the right value for him. Going off strictly numbers my concern would be that he has such a small body of work, sometimes guys seize an opportunity, get paid and then lose the hunger. I don't know if he's like that. But if he improves, he is improving on some solid numbers. 12 points, 3.5 rebounds, 5.7 assists in 27 minutes is a pretty good start for the MLE. Add his age to that and it doesn't seem to risky. I'd really have to see him play to understand if this is a good risk or not. Based on the numbers, it doesn't seem to be. But if the guy can't run the offense and/or doesn't play D then you are of course still searching for a starting PG a year from now.
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7/24/2009  5:17 PM
i'll agree w/that but even if he works out to be a good 6th man who can distribute the ball on the offense & put up the same types of stats he put up for MIL last year in similar minutes, i think that's still a good value at MLE dollars... i have to think playing in MDA's system those stats will improve by a pretty decent margin.
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Posted by TMS:

i'll agree w/that but even if he works out to be a good 6th man who can distribute the ball on the offense & put up the same types of stats he put up for MIL last year in similar minutes, i think that's still a good value at MLE dollars... i have to think playing in MDA's system those stats will improve by a pretty decent margin.

I don't disagree, but he can only help us if he becomes a guy that can run the offense and play D. Or if he becomes a back-up to a guy that can run the offense and play D. Under both of those scenarios this would seem like a good deal. He's putting up some pretty good all around numbers in limited minutes. I would hope those would increase, but who the helle knows.
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7/24/2009  5:26 PM


heres some footage of the 24 assist game. bucks scored 130 but gave up 150pts in that game.

Duhon had 22 pts on 8-9 shooting 4-4 from 3 and 15 assists in that same game

[Edited by - McK1 on 07-24-2009 5:29 PM]
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7/24/2009  5:27 PM
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heres some footage of the 24 assist game. bucks scored 130 but gave up 150pts in that game.

Got to be honest, one game footage and highlight reels mean very little to me.
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7/24/2009  5:31 PM
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heres some footage of the 24 assist game. bucks scored 130 but gave up 150pts in that game.

Got to be honest, one game footage and highlight reels mean very little to me.

I agree

Duhon had 22 pts on 8-9 shooting (4-4 from 3) and 15 assists in that same game
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7/24/2009  5:34 PM
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Posted by Bippity10:
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heres some footage of the 24 assist game. bucks scored 130 but gave up 150pts in that game.

Got to be honest, one game footage and highlight reels mean very little to me.

I agree

Duhon had 22 pts on 8-9 shooting (4-4 from 3) and 15 assists in that same game

So then what was the point in showing it?
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heres some footage of the 24 assist game. bucks scored 130 but gave up 150pts in that game.

Got to be honest, one game footage and highlight reels mean very little to me.

I agree

Duhon had 22 pts on 8-9 shooting (4-4 from 3) and 15 assists in that same game

So then what was the point in showing it?

I agree that vids and highlight reels do nothing for you. This type of microbial evidence for or against someone is irrelevant to you. We gotta wait till after the investment is made, see a guy not live up to his draft position or contract then judge if it was worth it.
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