Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by nyk4ever:



I'm not going to disagree with you except on Evans, I think he's going to be a very good player. The others are high-risk, high-reward type players.

The trouble with Evans is he can't finish what he starts (literally) - after he gets by his defender (which usually rakes 2-3 moves), his pull-up jumper will be very contestable in the NBA and he can't finish in the lane with any consistency. His defense is average. So he's got a nice bag of tricks but no reliable endpoint so to speak.

The rest of the picks are very close to total risk, no reward.

SUPPOSEDLY Evans has really improved his jumper from last season. I know, theres not a whole lot to go on there, but the reports have said in his workouts his jumper has been much improved. I think he's better at finishing than you do though, I thought at Memphis he showed he could finish pretty well, especially in the tournament.

Its not so much his current percentage that worries me as much as his form/balance - the only way he seems to get his shot off is by fading. Thats not a coincidence - its because he gets poor lift and tilts in the air to get separation from a defender thats usually not too far behind. As far as finishing, I think that his best bet is to develop a tear drop because I think he falls short in terms of NBA athleticism.

Perhaps he's better than I'm giving him credit for, we'll wait and see. I'd hesitate to pick him, however, because it would take vast improvement in his ancilliary skill set to become a reliable offensive option.

Posted by nixluva:

It was mentioned in many of the articles on this, that the Knicks didn't have the best offer of all the teams that could stand to jump in on this deal. Donnie just has to keep working to see if he can find a trading partner that will accept our less than stellar offers. I happen to think Chandler is a good value, but not in comparison to Foye and Miller. We couldn't compete with that.

Chandler at the two guard spot played better than Randy Foye.

16ppg, 3rpg, 4apg, 2tpg, 1spg on 40% shooting and 36% from the 3 point line. 25 year old player. Mike Miller is on the other side of his career and can't stay healthy. Hughes and Harrington without Chandler in the mix are better players. I don't think the Knicks were interested in taking back salary past 2010 in Songaila and it look like the Wizards wanted very much to get rid of Songaila's option year past 2010.


[Edited by - pharzeone on 06-23-2009 11:10 PM]

Posted by Paladin55:

Posted by nyk4ever:

Posted by codeunknown:

Posted by codeunknown:

Getting the 5th pick would have been a mistake - there's really nothing either there or afterwards that's all that appealing. My impression is that either you trade for Thabeet (at 2/3) or take whats available at 8, preferably Curry.

There are reports suggesting Curry could go at #4, meaning that a potential move to 5 would be a great way to spray assets on a sinking investment. If Curry's gone at 8, you're forced to play the lottery with Jennings or Derozan (and likely lose).

If Curry goes at 4, I think we definitely get Evans at 8 because I think Minnesota goes with a Rubio/SF combo and the Warriors have supposedly promised they'll take Hill at 7.

Who is Minny's SG at this point? I think that along with PG, they look at the SG position- at least they have Gomes at SF. As far as I can see they have no SG on their roster.

I also expect GS to squeeze us for something if Hill and Evans/Curry are available at 7 when they pick. They must know how we feel about Curry, and we have also looked at Evans, so they can toy with Walsh a bit and maybe extract something from us. If they really like Hill they can still pick him with our 8th, so they get what they want either way.

I also cannot see us taking Lawson at 8, even though Walsh has a soft spot in his heart for him. We would take Flynn, and even Holiday, over him IMO.

Posted by VDesai:

I'm not sure who among the Knick decision makers would be have a clear preference for Flynn or Holiday over Lawson- I think D'Antoni's preferences would be clearly more geared to someone like Lawson. I can see them maybe thinking about Flynn (especially if they thin that they can cut his turnovers), but I honestly don't see Holliday in a Knick uni.