Posted by Paladin55:

Posted by PresIke:

You don't have to watch the games to pass judgement?

Okay, if you're going to start from that line of reasoning then I don't know where to begin.

[Edited by - presike on 06-18-2009 10:13 AM]

Some people have amazing powers of intuition and are able to "feel" things, while others, like myself, and perhaps you, have to actually see something in order to make an educated comment or judgment on it. It is soooo much easier to reach a conclusion about something if you just go by your "feelings"- evaluating "evidence" just gets in the way and causes endless headaches.

Maybe Jennings lives in some kind of "You Got Served" 1/1 macho BB universe

Posted by nyk4ever:

[quote]Posted by oohah:


Oohah, it sounds like the game has passed you by bro.

Posted by Marv:



how do you take a 6'6.5 277 player with 2 bad knees at 8?

Posted by oohah:

Posted by Marv:



how do you take a 6'6.5 277 player with 2 bad knees at 8?

I never heard he had bad knees. BUt they said Danny Granger had bad knees, didn't they?

Outside of that, the fact is Blair has been a leader and a very good college player, he just doesn't have the hype these other guys do. But he can play, can't he? He is ready to play in the NBA next year. Again, pelase look at Lee, Howard, Millsapp. I see the same mold here. A good solid pro.

oohah





[Edited by - oohah on 18-06-2009 5:59 PM]

Posted by oohah:

Posted by Marv:


i love the guy too. i just think he's way too big a risk at 8.

also, lee, howard and millsapp wouldn't look so great if they had been the 8 pick.

I think Millsapp and Howard look just fine at #8. Lee would be a good borderline lottery player 12-14 pick.

Blair to me is in the mold of Barkley or Artest. He is a physically punishing player you would not want to drive on you because they will break your jaw if you play them too close. He has the pro body already. He can shoot decently, he plays D (1 block and 1.7 steals per game) and he is smart. He also has leadership qualities.

I think that is exactly the kind of player you take at #8, or you swing for the fences with a raw talent pick like a Stoudemire if one is hanging out there. I don't see that guy so I would prefer the pro-ready player.

However, overall I wish the Knicks would trade Lee and the #8 to Memphis to pick up Thabeet. That is what I would really want.

oohah

i'd love thabeet. i don’t want any part of blair. sweetney was a much better prospect coming out of college and he didn't have the knee problems.

Posted by oohah:

Marv, just look at Blair's stats as a Sophomore: 16 points per game, 60% shooting, 12 rebounds(!), 1 block, 1 assist, 1.5 steals -- playing in the Big East. To me that translates pretty well to the pro game.

I'm not saying he is a star in the making, but he looks like a very capable player, and he is only 20.

oohah

i'm just projecting to the pro game. i don’t trust the knees are going to hold up and his height he can’t afford to lose any spring.

i'm not in any way dissing his performance in college. i think he was terrific and a real leader too. i just don't like the translation to the pro game and in no way in the lottery.

Posted by CrushAlot:

While this doesn’t involve a steel cage or a UFC pay per view, I thought it would be interesting to look at how Jennings and Rubio stack up next to one another, especially after Brandon was running a little competitive smack this past week. I came up with some key categories to look at and I’ll provide insight on each scenario and pick an overall winner.

Vision:
Both players have outstanding vision. You would be hard pressed to not find a YouTube video out there that showcases some And1 Mixtape type of dime. It’s tough to pick a clear cut winner here as they both are the best players in the draft at distributing and both take risks in order to do so.

Winner: Tie

Jump Shot:
This is the weakest area in both players games. Rubio was hindered by his wrist surgery and even looking historically, shoot the ball in the low 40’s from 2 and the mid-20’s from 3. Jennings shot 35% from 2 and 20% from 3 in his limited playing time. While they both aren’t great shooters yet and both saw limited time, you have to give the nod to Rubio historically speaking.

Winner: Rubio

Defense:
Rubio can get caught up laterally with some quicker guards but his heady play and quick hands always give him a chance to get the steal. He was defensive player of the year in the ACB League and that speaks volumes. Brandon can get out in the passing lanes but he isn’t much of a defensive player right now but if he dedicates himself, there is no reason he couldn’t be a good defensive point guard due to his amazing athleticism.

Winner: Rubio

Athleticism:
This is the first head-to-head battle that is a no brainer. Jennings is an elite athlete while Rubio is a good one. You won’t see Rubio finishing high above the rim or blowing by people with an explosive first step anytime soon. Jennings wins this one running away.

Winner: Jennings

Strength:
Both guys won’t be winning Mr. Olympia any time soon. They are in great shape but thin and this shouldn’t be surprising when you’re talking about 18 and 19-year old kids. They should fill out in time and Rubio has more potential in this regard being a taller player. As of right now though, they both need some help from Jack LaLane.

Winner: Tie

Leadership:
This is such a valuable category for point guards. You have to be able to be vocal and lead your team and understand the flow of the game. While Rubio has had ample experience on the professional level and at the Olympics to do this, Brandon just doesn’t have the reps yet. Rubio fit right into the Spanish national team as an 18-year old kid and that says a lot about how his teammates feel about him. While Brandon has been knocked as of late for his comments about Rubio, you have to admire the kid’s swagger and in time, his confidence could be infectious.

Winner: Rubio

Potential:
While Rubio is nowhere near finished, his lack of athleticism is the main thing holding him back here. He will no doubt be a great point guard for years due to his extremely high b ball IQ but other than improving his J, there isn’t much room for growth. Brandon is still relatively raw and most scouts are quoted as saying he’s made huge strides since he went to Italy. In the proper system and with good coaching, he could become dangerous on both sides of the ball.

Winner: Jennings

The thing to keep in mind is that I am judging both players on who they are right now. I think that Rubio is slightly better than Brandon currently but 5-years down the road, Brandon could be an elite point guard. It will be fun to watch their growth but for the time being, Rubio is the better prospect.

Overall Winner: Rubio