Posted by Pharzeone:

Just go by watching the games. Do you remember seeing Lebron on the court as much as you saw Rubio last August. That crazy old fool didn't think Lebron, Wade or Anthony should get more time than the likes of Marbury, Iverson and Jefferson.

Posted by Paladin55:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Paladin55:

Posted by orangeblobman:

I didn't read the article but I'm assuming Jennings said something about Rubio being hype...

which is hilarious to me-- Jennings should take care of his own before talking about other people or other players.

This is what Jennings should have said:

Rubio is a great player with great popularity throughout the world, and I have a lot of admiration for him, but I also want teams to know that I have a lot to offer as a player, and if people look at both of us without being blinded by the hype and the headlines, they will have a better understanding of what I can do as an NBA PG.

Yeah if he was living on Sesame Street. This is ridiculous. LOL, lot of admiration for him, great popularity throughout the world. Is he trying out for a NBA team or trying to replace Mother Theresa.

It is called sports diplomacy, D. Jeter style.

Posted by Paladin55:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Just go by watching the games. Do you remember seeing Lebron on the court as much as you saw Rubio last August. That crazy old fool didn't think Lebron, Wade or Anthony should get more time than the likes of Marbury, Iverson and Jefferson.

Do you hate the player (RR) or the hype?

June 13, 2009
So who won the point guard battle on the floor?
We ask the above question because we all know who won the battle off the floor, even if Ricky Rubio wasn't around to defend himself against Brandon Jennings.

Chances are, Rubio wouldn't have been able to stop Jennings no matter where he was.

The 19-year-old is simply too quick. That was the prevailing impression among those who watched Jennings play. The viewing audience was just like the majority of hoops fans out there, largely unfamiliar with Jennings game because he left to play in Italy after playing his high school ball at Dominguez Hills in Compton and the esteemed Oak Hill Academy in Virginia. But as he faced off mostly against Syracuse's power-packed point guard Jonny Flynn, Jennings impressed in a big way during the full-court scrimmage.

The danger of this format, of course, is that's it's only a loose version of a real game and hardly the place for players like Jennings, Flynn or UCLA's Jrue Holiday to show how they can run a team and make the most of his teammates. It's perfect for a guy like Jennings, who didn't help Flynn with the question of whether he can defend and had little trouble getting around Holiday from what I saw either. Most importantly, his shot was far more accurate on this day than it was in his last two Euro League seasons in which he shot 37 percent and 38 percent, respectively.

Now as much as Jennings stood out, the Kings - who were looking at these players as prospects for their No. 4 pick in the June 25 draft - must consider their specific need when it comes to type of point guard. Jennings described himself as a "pass-first" point guard afterward, but that wasn't evident during the workout as he was clearly looking for his shot and putting his one-on-one skills on display. The media was privy to the final 20-or-so minutes of the session, with the curtain down for a good time before that which certainly included action that will affect the team's decision-making process.

Holiday was in for his second workout with the Kings, but the spotlight was off of him mainly because he was faced off against Notre Dame point guard Kyle McAlarney. The winner of this main event, during and after, was Jennings. But because there was no extended video permitted to be shot (no surprise there considering the high stakes of this kind of face off), I decided to take verbal notes while watching the scrimmage. For the most curious of you out there, here is a play-by-play that is somewhat revealing. The bolded line was the highlight of the outing.

Jonny misses jumper over Jennings
Flynn and Jennings guarding each other, Holiday with Notre Dame guy
Jennings denies Flynn, plays tight
Jennings gets free off screen, hits jumper in the lane
Jennings short on jumper top of key against Flynn
Flynn misses drive,
Jennings takes charge from big, nope they called block
Holiday rotates on Jennings, who stutter steps gets around him right baseline and hits layup - no problem getting by Holiday
Notre Dame guy hits jumper left baseline from Holiday assist
Jennings loses Flynn on pick, finds guy for dunk coming left
Jennings steps back, almost three top of arc over Flynn
Jennings misses jumper over Flynn, left wing,
Holiday dunk on the break, Jennings can't get there for LeBron-style block (only lower)
Flynn misses layup in traffic, Jennings the other way gets blocked - layup by Holiday
Jennings loses Flynn on screen, misses layup baseline
Flynn loses Jennings on screen up top, finds big man down low for layup
Holiday big board in traffic with two others, finds big left wing - 20-footer good
Flynn left wing, 20-footer
Holiday pull-up left wing, good over big
Flynn floats right, flip pass left wing, three-pointer good
Flynn goes at Jennings in the lane, Jennings contests, and Flynn misses a five-footer
Guard hits a long two over Holiday coming off a screen
Jennings top of key stepback miss over Flynn
Holiday right wing, finds big through traffic, layup good
Holiday goes hard for layup, Jennings contests and Holiday misses
Holiday driving left, finds Flynn on right wing, who buries a three
Jennings misses three from top, somewhat contested
Jennings takes a spill in the three-man weave, gets quick breather and is back at it again
Holiday throws to self on three-man weave off backboard for the dunk.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Paladin55:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Just go by watching the games. Do you remember seeing Lebron on the court as much as you saw Rubio last August. That crazy old fool didn't think Lebron, Wade or Anthony should get more time than the likes of Marbury, Iverson and Jefferson.

Do you hate the player (RR) or the hype?

I never met Rubio or had any connections with Rubio so can't see how I can hate him. I was calling the hype ridiculous from the beginning. I said he would settle that in open competitive workouts as far as last September. Him not showing up reminds me why I don't like early draft infatuation. Jennings can run his mouth because he showed up to compete against his draft peers.

Posted by McK1:

recant of the workout from a Kings beatwriter:

June 13, 2009
So who won the point guard battle on the floor?
We ask the above question because we all know who won the battle off the floor, even if Ricky Rubio wasn't around to defend himself against Brandon Jennings.

Chances are, Rubio wouldn't have been able to stop Jennings no matter where he was.

The 19-year-old is simply too quick. That was the prevailing impression among those who watched Jennings play. The viewing audience was just like the majority of hoops fans out there, largely unfamiliar with Jennings game because he left to play in Italy after playing his high school ball at Dominguez Hills in Compton and the esteemed Oak Hill Academy in Virginia. But as he faced off mostly against Syracuse's power-packed point guard Jonny Flynn, Jennings impressed in a big way during the full-court scrimmage.

The danger of this format, of course, is that's it's only a loose version of a real game and hardly the place for players like Jennings, Flynn or UCLA's Jrue Holiday to show how they can run a team and make the most of his teammates. It's perfect for a guy like Jennings, who didn't help Flynn with the question of whether he can defend and had little trouble getting around Holiday from what I saw either. Most importantly, his shot was far more accurate on this day than it was in his last two Euro League seasons in which he shot 37 percent and 38 percent, respectively.

Now as much as Jennings stood out, the Kings - who were looking at these players as prospects for their No. 4 pick in the June 25 draft - must consider their specific need when it comes to type of point guard. Jennings described himself as a "pass-first" point guard afterward, but that wasn't evident during the workout as he was clearly looking for his shot and putting his one-on-one skills on display. The media was privy to the final 20-or-so minutes of the session, with the curtain down for a good time before that which certainly included action that will affect the team's decision-making process.

Holiday was in for his second workout with the Kings, but the spotlight was off of him mainly because he was faced off against Notre Dame point guard Kyle McAlarney. The winner of this main event, during and after, was Jennings. But because there was no extended video permitted to be shot (no surprise there considering the high stakes of this kind of face off), I decided to take verbal notes while watching the scrimmage. For the most curious of you out there, here is a play-by-play that is somewhat revealing. The bolded line was the highlight of the outing.

Jonny misses jumper over Jennings
Flynn and Jennings guarding each other, Holiday with Notre Dame guy
Jennings denies Flynn, plays tight
Jennings gets free off screen, hits jumper in the lane
Jennings short on jumper top of key against Flynn
Flynn misses drive,
Jennings takes charge from big, nope they called block
Holiday rotates on Jennings, who stutter steps gets around him right baseline and hits layup - no problem getting by Holiday
Notre Dame guy hits jumper left baseline from Holiday assist
Jennings loses Flynn on pick, finds guy for dunk coming left
Jennings steps back, almost three top of arc over Flynn
Jennings misses jumper over Flynn, left wing,
Holiday dunk on the break, Jennings can't get there for LeBron-style block (only lower)
Flynn misses layup in traffic, Jennings the other way gets blocked - layup by Holiday
Jennings loses Flynn on screen, misses layup baseline
Flynn loses Jennings on screen up top, finds big man down low for layup
Holiday big board in traffic with two others, finds big left wing - 20-footer good
Flynn left wing, 20-footer
Holiday pull-up left wing, good over big
Flynn floats right, flip pass left wing, three-pointer good
Flynn goes at Jennings in the lane, Jennings contests, and Flynn misses a five-footer
Guard hits a long two over Holiday coming off a screen
Jennings top of key stepback miss over Flynn
Holiday right wing, finds big through traffic, layup good
Holiday goes hard for layup, Jennings contests and Holiday misses
Holiday driving left, finds Flynn on right wing, who buries a three
Jennings misses three from top, somewhat contested
Jennings takes a spill in the three-man weave, gets quick breather and is back at it again
Holiday throws to self on three-man weave off backboard for the dunk.

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/archives/2009/06/so-who-won-the.html

And this proves what????????

That 3 pro prospects can play a pick up game without tripping over their own feet?

I wonder if steve nash would be able to guard jennings? I bet I can tell you which one any GM would take..

Outstanding........

[Edited by - tkf on 13-06-2009 12:45 PM]

Posted by McK1:

Posted by tkf:

And this proves what????????



Outstanding........

[Edited by - tkf on 13-06-2009 12:45 PM]

nothing.

just bringing up more happened that day besides the two minutes Jennings devoted to Rubio.
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Holiday came across as a PG based on the writer's play by play account- Jennings was mostly looking for his own shots.

Posted by Allanfan20:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by Paladin55:

Posted by Pharzeone:

Just go by watching the games. Do you remember seeing Lebron on the court as much as you saw Rubio last August. That crazy old fool didn't think Lebron, Wade or Anthony should get more time than the likes of Marbury, Iverson and Jefferson.

Do you hate the player (RR) or the hype?

I never met Rubio or had any connections with Rubio so can't see how I can hate him. I was calling the hype ridiculous from the beginning. I said he would settle that in open competitive workouts as far as last September. Him not showing up reminds me why I don't like early draft infatuation. Jennings can run his mouth because he showed up to compete against his draft peers.

Jennings doesn't have a right to say a word about Rubio, nor does Rubio have a right to say anything about Jennings. Rubio knows he's going into the top 5, so he doesn't have to work out for anyone. NBA teams are probably already decided if they are going to pick him or not. And if lightning strikes and he doesn't land in the top 5, then maybe he'll fall to the Knicks, a team he would want to play for. He may be overhyped, but he earned the hype, and as a result, he gets a benefit like this. Exactly how Thabeet and Griffin don't have to work out for anybody either and exactly how Curry can shut down workouts and still be able to be picked.

Jennings has wowed nobody in Europe and he's not even guranteed a lotto pick. He has to work out for teams to show he's got something.

Oh and like I said. Those comments he made about playing against Rubio? Jennings team lost that game, and his statline wasn't all that impressive either. He has no right whatsoever to speak.