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martin
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3/26/2009  11:20 PM
Posted by Marv:

i really gotta say, the amount of whiny anal crybaby need-to-grow-a-pair postings on this board is astounding. that's right, i'm name-calling. if you’re reading this and it applies to you, then wear it proudly.

how's this for a sign of "progress" - the great majority of games this year featured a competitive, inspired, often exciting effort from our players, a far cry form recent years. if you can’t see the progress in that, then go help yourself to more whining, crying and thumb-sucking. cheers.

dude, say it more succinctly, SUCK IT BIATCHES!
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3/26/2009  11:37 PM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

There is ultimately no coach that we could bring in here that would be beyond reproach. That's the point I get here.

VanGundy - we can't win the title, get him out
Lenny - he falls asleep, get him out
Larry - too much defense, its a conspiracy, get him out
MikeD - too much offense, get him out

The coach IS NOT OUR PROBLEM. We run out a tiny mis-matched team every night. What do you want, honestly.

Give Mike all the time he needs to assemble talent into a real team because if you kick him out, you're the Clippers. You kick him out, you have zero, zero credibility as a franchise. This guy is revered by other coaches, and all of the recent olympians so go ahead Knicks fans, kick him out. That'll really change things up around here.


I want smart player who don't hang on rims, and pg's that don't turn the ball over in the 4th qrtr at 4 a clip. I a want guy who doesn't run and double teams rashard lewis at the top of the key and leave his man(turkglo) wide open for a 3 in the last 2 minutes of a close game.

DID ANY PLAYER ON THIS SQUAD GIVE IT TO AL AFTER THE DUMB ASS MOVE, Not a peep just shady looks.
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3/27/2009  12:14 AM
there's been none at all.

i say bring back isiah.

no way can we let him go to the clippers.

that's would be a tragedy of divine comedy.
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3/27/2009  2:10 AM
WHEN it became clear earlier this week that Danilo Gallinari will undergo back surgery, Knicks head coach Mike D'Antoni was quick to characterize the rookie's abbreviated season as a learning experience rather than a wasted year.

Considering the investment made in the 20-year-old Italian, you expect the Knicks to stay upbeat about their first-round draft choice even though his 28-game season could qualify as "Much ado about nothing." He averaged just 6.1 points and 2.0 rebounds while displaying a nice jumper, but lacking strength and the ability to score off the dribble.

Nevertheless, D'Antoni remains confident the sixth overall selection is on track to be "a very high level player." That outlook remains a tough sell particularly last night when the player chosen after Gallinari, Eric Gordon, scored 19 points to help the Clippers to a 140-135 overtime win over the struggling Knicks.

"It's good he sampled the NBA a little bit and knows what he has to do," D'Antoni said of Gallinari. "Now it's just a question of getting healthy, getting physically stronger and that will come naturally. I think his future is bright."

Time will tell if the first selection of the Donnie Walsh-D'Antoni era was a home run or a whiff, but the notion of whether the 2008-09 season has been a learning experience or a waste of time can be applied not just to Gallinari but the entire team.

When it's all said and done, all the highlights of 2008-09 have come off the court rather than on it. The jettison of Stephon Marbury and the clearing of cap space for the 2010 free-agent shopping spree are about all the Knicks have to brag about as their losing streak reached six games.

The loss of Gallinari is the exclamation point on this wasted season. As the Knicks' highest draft selection since 1986, he is the one player expected to have a huge part in the future of this franchise; the one player, who figures to get big minutes alongside LeBron James or Dwyane Wade or whoever arrives in 2010. Everyone else on the roster, aside from perhaps 2007 pick Wilson Chandler, is expendable and may not be here two years from now.

The Knicks might point to career years by David Lee and Nate Robinson as reflections of the positive influence D'Antoni has had. But despite the double-doubles Lee has amassed and Robinson's occasional scoring outbursts, neither has proven worthy of a long-term deal for the kind of big money that might limit cap space in 2010.

That's why this year was all about Gallinari and whether he could validate the Knicks' first-round selection and secure a prominent role in the franchise's future. Neither of those questions was answered this season. Couple that with a thus far disappointing finish and the only positive about 2008-2009 was clearing room for 2010.

george.willis@nypost.com

Just another whiny anal crybaby, I guess. Or someone who can see the obvious when it's right in front of him.

It's funny, the people who are sticking their heads in the sand now are the same ones who praised Isiah for 3 years before they opened their eyes to how stupid most of his moves were. That's not to say that this situation is anywhere near as bad as it was then under Isiah, but isn't it just possible that major missteps have been taken and very little progress has been made?
If it didn’t work in Phoenix with Nash and Stoutamire... it’s just not a winning formula. It’s an entertaining formula, but not a winning one. - Derek Harper talking about D'Antoni's System
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3/27/2009  2:45 AM
DURING the Knicks' theater-in-the-rectangle with the Chicago Bulls last week, the Jet coach, Bruce Coslet, was discussing the job Pat Riley had done in lifting the level of excellence and expectation for a pro basketball team that had once been a monument to mediocrity.

"I'd like to talk to him," Coslet said.

As a coach himself, Coslet realized that in a conversation with Riley he would surely learn something. About teaching. About motivating. About handling a game. About developing players. About what every coach in every sport is trying to do: getting the most out of your players.

But what exactly did the Knicks learn from Riley that changed their attitude and atmosphere? When the Knick players were asked that question not long ago, all their answers varied. Yet all their answers were the same. They involved Riley's philosophy on their approach to their profession, a philosophy that applies to all athletes no matter what the sport.

"Hard work," Xavier McDaniel said. "Practice the same way you play in the game."

"Sacrifice," Mark Jackson said. "You sacrifice for the benefit of the team."

"Overall preparation for the game, more respect for the game, not just coming to the gym." Gerald Wilkins said. "You're playing a man's game. You've got to play it with a man's attitude."

"Stay focused," Charles Oakley said. "Don't let your mind wander."

"He teaches you what to look for," Greg Anthony said. "You can see if an opponent wants to play. Not to let a team that's down and out to get into the game."

"Be mentally strong," John Starks said. "Especially in the second half of the season."

"Be more professional," Anthony Mason said. "I needed a lot of polishing off the court. He told me to avoid trouble scenes out on the street, that if anything happened, my name would be the only name mentioned."

"Organization," Kiki Vandeweghe said. "He brought organization here. Practice, game plan, itinerary, everything."

"He pays great attention to detail," James Donaldson said. "But he's very positive, very encouraging. Even his criticism is very encouraging and that's uplifting."

"Hard work is only going to make you better," Kennard Winchester said. "That's the attitude he builds up in you."

"That there's no substitute for preparation, that there's no excuse for losing under any circumstances," Tim McCormick said. "He reminds you every single day, not by saying it but by doing it."

Of all the Knicks, only Patrick Ewing insisted that he hadn't learned anything specific, but agreed that Riley was "definitely professional."

Maybe "definitely professional" is the best synonym for the Riley Standard that all those other New York managers and coaches will now be measured against. For better or for worse, in first place or in last.

What's the D'Antoni Standard? What would the current Knicks say about D'Antoni?
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3/27/2009  3:51 AM
No, the thing is it's nothing like Isiah. Only you would make this comparison. People know what went on with Isiah and the negative impacts his "trade for talent" trades had on us. Walsh has been the anti-Isiah in every way. This is why we like an support him. He's fixing the club the right way and has done it faster than a lot of us thought he could. It's too bad some people like to nitpick at every single damn thing. It's like you are the first to be negative on everything just so you can say "see, told you all. I was a negative for a reason". Then when you are wrong you can never say anything. I get it. This is your thinking. But why try and shove it down our throats with every post? Why do you have to have a daily "I hate Walsh/D'Antoni" quota of posts? This is not last year's Knicks under Isiah. It ain't the miserable board it once was. You aren't going to find many supporting the same views any longer.
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3/27/2009  6:00 AM
Posted by islesfan:
WHEN it became clear earlier this week that Danilo Gallinari will undergo back surgery, Knicks head coach Mike D'Antoni was quick to characterize the rookie's abbreviated season as a learning experience rather than a wasted year.

Considering the investment made in the 20-year-old Italian, you expect the Knicks to stay upbeat about their first-round draft choice even though his 28-game season could qualify as "Much ado about nothing." He averaged just 6.1 points and 2.0 rebounds while displaying a nice jumper, but lacking strength and the ability to score off the dribble.

Nevertheless, D'Antoni remains confident the sixth overall selection is on track to be "a very high level player." That outlook remains a tough sell particularly last night when the player chosen after Gallinari, Eric Gordon, scored 19 points to help the Clippers to a 140-135 overtime win over the struggling Knicks.

"It's good he sampled the NBA a little bit and knows what he has to do," D'Antoni said of Gallinari. "Now it's just a question of getting healthy, getting physically stronger and that will come naturally. I think his future is bright."

Time will tell if the first selection of the Donnie Walsh-D'Antoni era was a home run or a whiff, but the notion of whether the 2008-09 season has been a learning experience or a waste of time can be applied not just to Gallinari but the entire team.

When it's all said and done, all the highlights of 2008-09 have come off the court rather than on it. The jettison of Stephon Marbury and the clearing of cap space for the 2010 free-agent shopping spree are about all the Knicks have to brag about as their losing streak reached six games.

The loss of Gallinari is the exclamation point on this wasted season. As the Knicks' highest draft selection since 1986, he is the one player expected to have a huge part in the future of this franchise; the one player, who figures to get big minutes alongside LeBron James or Dwyane Wade or whoever arrives in 2010. Everyone else on the roster, aside from perhaps 2007 pick Wilson Chandler, is expendable and may not be here two years from now.

The Knicks might point to career years by David Lee and Nate Robinson as reflections of the positive influence D'Antoni has had. But despite the double-doubles Lee has amassed and Robinson's occasional scoring outbursts, neither has proven worthy of a long-term deal for the kind of big money that might limit cap space in 2010.

That's why this year was all about Gallinari and whether he could validate the Knicks' first-round selection and secure a prominent role in the franchise's future. Neither of those questions was answered this season. Couple that with a thus far disappointing finish and the only positive about 2008-2009 was clearing room for 2010.

george.willis@nypost.com

Just another whiny anal crybaby, I guess. Or someone who can see the obvious when it's right in front of him.

It's funny, the people who are sticking their heads in the sand now are the same ones who praised Isiah for 3 years before they opened their eyes to how stupid most of his moves were. That's not to say that this situation is anywhere near as bad as it was then under Isiah, but isn't it just possible that major missteps have been taken and very little progress has been made?

Does george willis post to this site 20 times a day with the same whimpering whining posts? like a spoiled child would when he’s not getting every single thing that he wants every minute ? if he were doing that, then yes indeed george willis would be a whiny anal crybaby.

But he’s not. He’s simply failing to note the difference in the quality of the games the knicks players have put out this year, and he’s neglecting to characterize gallinari’s year accurately in terms of his injury.
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3/27/2009  7:25 AM
What I used to say about Isiah is that there wasn't much difference who was coaching the team. Isiah's big detractor was the controversy around him.

I never thought we could attract a coach like MikeD.

Now that we have D'Antoni, I know we have a high level coach and there's no way we should let him go under any circumstances.

This board has really lost it with the coaches around here. If we had Phil Jackson the team would still lose and I'm pretty sure what people would say.

"Jax is washed up, he lost the edge, get him out of here!"
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3/27/2009  8:46 AM
isles- here is one incontrovertible proof of progress: D'Antoni really says it like it is.

There may be some spin, but nothing like what we had with Isiah. The excuses aren't there. Mike said his team wasn't mentally tough enough. When did you hear Isiah say that?
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3/27/2009  9:17 AM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

What I used to say about Isiah is that there wasn't much difference who was coaching the team. Isiah's big detractor was the controversy around him.

I never thought we could attract a coach like MikeD.

Now that we have D'Antoni, I know we have a high level coach and there's no way we should let him go under any circumstances.

This board has really lost it with the coaches around here. If we had Phil Jackson the team would still lose and I'm pretty sure what people would say.

"Jax is washed up, he lost the edge, get him out of here!"
Good post. I remember people killing Don Chaney for his rotations, subs and end of game management. For god sakes the guy won 37 games rotation Kurt, Spoon and Othella up front.

Its all about the players. Don Chaney could have coached the Shaq Kobe Lakers to 3 titles, and Phil Jackson would have been run out of town trying to coach one of Isiah's teams.

Sometimes a coach is a great fit for a set of players and they compliment each other. Other times a guy is a bad fit. Bottom line is this isnt the NFL where systems and schemes can make a 7-9 team into a 10-6 team. Talent and stars rule the NBA.

A good coach could add a few wins and a bad one can blow a few wins.


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3/27/2009  9:18 AM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by islesfan:
WHEN it became clear earlier this week that Danilo Gallinari will undergo back surgery, Knicks head coach Mike D'Antoni was quick to characterize the rookie's abbreviated season as a learning experience rather than a wasted year.

Considering the investment made in the 20-year-old Italian, you expect the Knicks to stay upbeat about their first-round draft choice even though his 28-game season could qualify as "Much ado about nothing." He averaged just 6.1 points and 2.0 rebounds while displaying a nice jumper, but lacking strength and the ability to score off the dribble.

Nevertheless, D'Antoni remains confident the sixth overall selection is on track to be "a very high level player." That outlook remains a tough sell particularly last night when the player chosen after Gallinari, Eric Gordon, scored 19 points to help the Clippers to a 140-135 overtime win over the struggling Knicks.

"It's good he sampled the NBA a little bit and knows what he has to do," D'Antoni said of Gallinari. "Now it's just a question of getting healthy, getting physically stronger and that will come naturally. I think his future is bright."

Time will tell if the first selection of the Donnie Walsh-D'Antoni era was a home run or a whiff, but the notion of whether the 2008-09 season has been a learning experience or a waste of time can be applied not just to Gallinari but the entire team.

When it's all said and done, all the highlights of 2008-09 have come off the court rather than on it. The jettison of Stephon Marbury and the clearing of cap space for the 2010 free-agent shopping spree are about all the Knicks have to brag about as their losing streak reached six games.

The loss of Gallinari is the exclamation point on this wasted season. As the Knicks' highest draft selection since 1986, he is the one player expected to have a huge part in the future of this franchise; the one player, who figures to get big minutes alongside LeBron James or Dwyane Wade or whoever arrives in 2010. Everyone else on the roster, aside from perhaps 2007 pick Wilson Chandler, is expendable and may not be here two years from now.

The Knicks might point to career years by David Lee and Nate Robinson as reflections of the positive influence D'Antoni has had. But despite the double-doubles Lee has amassed and Robinson's occasional scoring outbursts, neither has proven worthy of a long-term deal for the kind of big money that might limit cap space in 2010.

That's why this year was all about Gallinari and whether he could validate the Knicks' first-round selection and secure a prominent role in the franchise's future. Neither of those questions was answered this season. Couple that with a thus far disappointing finish and the only positive about 2008-2009 was clearing room for 2010.

george.willis@nypost.com

Just another whiny anal crybaby, I guess. Or someone who can see the obvious when it's right in front of him.

It's funny, the people who are sticking their heads in the sand now are the same ones who praised Isiah for 3 years before they opened their eyes to how stupid most of his moves were. That's not to say that this situation is anywhere near as bad as it was then under Isiah, but isn't it just possible that major missteps have been taken and very little progress has been made?

Does george willis post to this site 20 times a day with the same whimpering whining posts? like a spoiled child would when he’s not getting every single thing that he wants every minute ? if he were doing that, then yes indeed george willis would be a whiny anal crybaby.

But he’s not. He’s simply failing to note the difference in the quality of the games the knicks players have put out this year, and he’s neglecting to characterize gallinari’s year accurately in terms of his injury.

So I guess it's not possible that missteps have been made and you think everything is perfect.

As far as the repetition that you have a problem with, it goes both ways. I don't see you admonishing nixluva or misterearl for saying the same things over and over and over again. Maybe it's just people who don't have a pollyannish mentality that you take offense to.
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3/27/2009  9:20 AM
Posted by franco12:

isles- here is one incontrovertible proof of progress: D'Antoni really says it like it is.

There may be some spin, but nothing like what we had with Isiah. The excuses aren't there. Mike said his team wasn't mentally tough enough. When did you hear Isiah say that?

Sure and they both hold the team and themselves accountable just the same.
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3/27/2009  9:24 AM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

What I used to say about Isiah is that there wasn't much difference who was coaching the team. Isiah's big detractor was the controversy around him.

I never thought we could attract a coach like MikeD.

Now that we have D'Antoni, I know we have a high level coach and there's no way we should let him go under any circumstances.

This board has really lost it with the coaches around here. If we had Phil Jackson the team would still lose and I'm pretty sure what people would say.

"Jax is washed up, he lost the edge, get him out of here!"

Wow, really?!? You think the work he's done here and his impact on this team has been that great that he's irreplaceable and should never be let go under and circumstances???

Based on what?
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3/27/2009  9:45 AM
amazing the press is now saying its been a "lost season".

Rebuilding has its ups and downs and the product on the floor has been far more competitive this year than last.

The core of Marb-Craw-ZDumb is now Nate-lee-Chandler and they have GROWN.

Gallo has proven to be effective at this level even at 60-80%

If healthy you could add him to that core.

If traded or not, they are the asset core. Douch Al is not our future. Duhon will make a fine back up.

Don't even bring up riley and compare. That was a different decade with differnt players. ANd Riles did not bring any bling here. In fact, he got out coached his one trip to the finals.

MDA came close to getting to the finals and the San Antonio series was a freak thing. LIke when Knicks and MIami brawled and perhaps ruined our best chance.

HIs body of work is very good and the team plays hard for him.
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Posted by Allanfan20:

This is what you see with players with habits. It's extremely extremely hard to get rid of habits. You can put them aside for a few days, weeks, months or even a couple of years, but to keep them out of your life, is very difficult. Now you see the habits creeping back in. The laziness on defense, one on one play, ect...

This isn't Mikes fault. He's to blame for certain things this season, absolutely. However, we weren't expecting this to be an important season for the team in the first place. We all knew it was the start of rebuilding especially since we got rid of Zach and Jamal for Al Harrington and Larry Hughes expiring (Essentially.)

This is why you go after players who are commited on both ends. Maybe they aren't great on one end but they are commited. We have nobody expect MAYBE Wilson and Gallo who are commited on either end, and we have no clue if those guys are keepers at this point, especially Gallo.

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3/27/2009  10:01 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by Marv:

i really gotta say, the amount of whiny anal crybaby need-to-grow-a-pair postings on this board is astounding. that's right, i'm name-calling. if you’re reading this and it applies to you, then wear it proudly.

how's this for a sign of "progress" - the great majority of games this year featured a competitive, inspired, often exciting effort from our players, a far cry form recent years. if you can’t see the progress in that, then go help yourself to more whining, crying and thumb-sucking. cheers.

whiny anal crybaby? bip - you gonna take that sh t?

No, but I will whine and cry about it.
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I like the fact that they are in just about every game and have blown about 10 games they could have won. There is progress being made we are going to get a point guard in the draft and would have been in a tremendous position long term had Walsh not ****ed this draft up so bad.

Had we taken lopez in the draft, had chandler in the fold, we could have moved curry with lee and or robinson and have three great blocks for the future.

Everyone points to the cavs having a great team and why would lebron leave. That team wins 20 games without him and 60 with him. He could easily make the Knicks a 50 win and a threat to go all the way this year. So as long as we get a good guard in the draft that can really play I think he are in a good position.
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This post just shows that a minority here really don't realize how in the toilet we were. "Some people" are still under the impression that bringing in a coach was going to eliminate the stench of quitting, losing and controversy that infests our organization and media and fans. It's going to take a while to fix this. First you start with the culture. You set standards make people stick to those standards. You eliminate the players whose bad habits are long since entrenched and you start to build around youth and veteran leaders. While this is happpening, nothing is going to change on the court no matter how much you whine about it.

Now like Isles, I'm not sold on D'Antoni as a championship coach. If he does not develop and improve as a coach I do not believe that he can win a title without eventually raising the level of his defense and we may need to replace him at some point if he does not. But I differ with Isles in two areas:

1.) having him as coach right now is the least of our worries. As long as he brings some positivity to the team, helps attract some talent and continues to develop the youth, the coach, any coach is the least of my problems. Expansion teams and loser teams that continually fire coaches while they are losing just perpetuate losing. Eventually as the talent improves and if D'Antoni is still failing than you hold him accountable. Now, it's pretty silly.

2.) I'm not a whiny biotch.
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3/27/2009  10:28 AM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by JohnWallace44:

What I used to say about Isiah is that there wasn't much difference who was coaching the team. Isiah's big detractor was the controversy around him.

I never thought we could attract a coach like MikeD.

Now that we have D'Antoni, I know we have a high level coach and there's no way we should let him go under any circumstances.

This board has really lost it with the coaches around here. If we had Phil Jackson the team would still lose and I'm pretty sure what people would say.

"Jax is washed up, he lost the edge, get him out of here!"

Wow, really?!? You think the work he's done here and his impact on this team has been that great that he's irreplaceable and should never be let go under and circumstances???

Based on what?

Isles, you would replace your own mother if you could. Let's get real here.

At what point do you stop bringing in coach after coach and try to establish a system?

Let's remember that one of the reasons that our roster is so effed is that we keep switching coaches and making moves to try and appease them.

We had the boring Layden crew, tried to spice it up with Marbs, drafted strictly athletes under Isiah, then Brown comes in and we give up on Ariza and trade him for friggin' Francis, then Brown gets booted and we try to fix the Francis disaster, Isiah gets booted and then we have to give up on Zach and Crawford and pick the best outside shooter in the draft in Gallo irrespective of anything else.

Now what do you want? Now you suggest we get rid of Mike, make Gallo completely useless, and go in another direction?

I love that the suggestion is the completely unproven Mark Jackson as if he would survive one season as coach. If we struggled under an unproven coach, what would he have to fall back on? He'd get run out of town. Mike has been a winner and has respect around the league.

Here's the final thing for the MikeD haters. Do you want to guarantee that LeBron, Bosh and Wade don't come to town? Fire D'Antoni. That would seal the deal. He's half of the reason they would even consider NY.

How about we give a proven coach more than 18 months. Is that seriously too much to ask?
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3/27/2009  10:41 AM
Posted by Bippity10:

This post just shows that a minority here really don't realize how in the toilet we were. "Some people" are still under the impression that bringing in a coach was going to eliminate the stench of quitting, losing and controversy that infests our organization and media and fans. It's going to take a while to fix this. First you start with the culture. You set standards make people stick to those standards. You eliminate the players whose bad habits are long since entrenched and you start to build around youth and veteran leaders. While this is happpening, nothing is going to change on the court no matter how much you whine about it.

Now like Isles, I'm not sold on D'Antoni as a championship coach. If he does not develop and improve as a coach I do not believe that he can win a title without eventually raising the level of his defense and we may need to replace him at some point if he does not. But I differ with Isles in two areas:

1.) having him as coach right now is the least of our worries. As long as he brings some positivity to the team, helps attract some talent and continues to develop the youth, the coach, any coach is the least of my problems. Expansion teams and loser teams that continually fire coaches while they are losing just perpetuate losing. Eventually as the talent improves and if D'Antoni is still failing than you hold him accountable. Now, it's pretty silly.

2.) I'm not a whiny biotch.

Don't know why everyone is so hung up on MDA. Dude signed a 4 year deal, which gives him 1 year with the 2010 team to see what he's got and another year if he has done well by that point. By then Walsh should have had enough time to put together a roster and if the Knicks do indeed need a better defensive coach, they go get one.
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