Questions for the Answer Man:

I'd like to hear how David Lee is not a gifted offensive boarder but somehow is 7th in the league in offensive boards per game.

I'd also like to hear how we should expect Wilcox to snag only 2 fewer bounds per game when his career high is 4 below Lee's current production.

I wonder if Wilcox ever averaged almost 19ppg, as Lee did in January and February, while shooting .550, in a set offense while being one of the focal points of opposing defenses.

I'd like to know how anyone could be so sure that Wilcox would average 15 and 9 "no question" when both numbers are significantly higher than his career highs (when he put up points, by the way, primarily as a garbage man) four years ago.

I'd wonder how Wilcox (who passes the ball less than Zach Randolph did) would fit into D'Antoni's unselfish offense when replacing a gifted and willing passer.

Most of all, I wonder how we can evaluate a player who is essentially a journeyman and who may be on the downswing of his career (short as it has been) next to a guy who has improved his game every year and very likely will continue to do so.

Sorry, Earl. You know we are boys. But I can think of no clearer example of the continuing and totally inexplicable undervaluing of David Lee than anyone thinking he and Chris Wilcox are the same player. Thats foul, man.

Why do we do this in New York? Last night, with Bernard and Pat on the floor, both men run out of town when they were here and now getting awards and fan appreciation. Not comparing Lee to those guys obviously, but damn, it makes you wonder what the **** our deal is.

And yeah, we do need an enforcer down low. You think Wilcox is that guy?

Its not even close.

[Edited by - rembee76 on 03-24-2009 11:12 PM]

Posted by martin:

Posted by TMS:

what belligerence? get the hell over yourself & stop being an annoying prick earl... i got my opinion, u got urs... leave it at that & stop trying to incite an argument... if i cared enough about your opinions i would take the time to explain why i think Lee is miles better than Wilcox... obviously i don't.

[Edited by - TMS on 03-24-2009 3:31 PM]

dude, seriously, I am getting to this thread late but your line if "u got a problem with that" is the instigator here. Chill man.

i'm getting a little tired of the onus being put on me everytime this crap w/earl comes around... read up a few posts & see if he's not trying to instigate me w/his cute mind games here martin... when i make a comment & he replies "I don't think so" how else u want me to respond? whatever, this is getting tiresome... i'll just ignore the guy from now on... i think that's best for everyone concerned.

Posted by martin:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by martin:

Posted by TMS:

what belligerence? get the hell over yourself & stop being an annoying prick earl... i got my opinion, u got urs... leave it at that & stop trying to incite an argument... if i cared enough about your opinions i would take the time to explain why i think Lee is miles better than Wilcox... obviously i don't.

[Edited by - TMS on 03-24-2009 3:31 PM]

dude, seriously, I am getting to this thread late but your line if "u got a problem with that" is the instigator here. Chill man.

i'm getting a little tired of the onus being put on me everytime this crap w/earl comes around... read up a few posts & see if he's not trying to instigate me w/his cute mind games here martin... when i make a comment & he replies "I don't think so" how else u want me to respond? whatever, this is getting tiresome... i'll just ignore the guy from now on... i think that's best for everyone concerned.

you've said that in like 10 different threads but you keep responding.

so it's fine for this guy to respond w/smart ass 1 liner comments & not OK for me to respond in kind... i see how it works... that's cool martin... ur board, ur rules... whatever, i'm done w/this thread.

Posted by misterearl:

Lee is a nice sixth man and a championship team.

So is Wilcox.

David Lee is a 6th man on a Championship team.

Chris Wilcox was a 10th man on the Oklahoma City Thunder. Behind Nick Collison.

Let's not completely trash Wilcox here. He's shown when given a good 25mpg he can post 13/7.

I'm not saying he's an insta-starter.. I'm just saying

The Answer Man Never Shies Away From A Challenge, Especially A Challenge From One of His (Most Respected) Boys

rembee - You know we are boys. But I can think of no clearer example of the continuing and totally inexplicable undervaluing of David Lee than anyone thinking he and Chris Wilcox are the same player. Thats foul, man.

AM: The mention of Lee and Wilcox being essentially the same player was made in the context of skill sets the Knicks lack at the four. Lee has the advantage in versatility and rebounding numbers but Wilcox, in my opinion, was comparable in terms of being able to finish at the tin and defensive tenacity. I want my power forward to deliver a hard foul every once in while, just to send a message. That's not foul, that's just a way of letting an opponent know there is no clear path to the rack.

Q rembee: Why do we do this in New York?

A. I feel your rant on Ewing and King, but those are different issues. I am not an advocate of running Lee out of town. emann can verify i was jumping with joy the instant Lee was selected by Zeke on draft night. This has nothing to do with personal preference, it is more about a incredibly difficult decision that Donnie Walsh must make before draft night 2009. You either decide Lee is the forward of the future and find a center to play alongside him, or you determine that Lee can help you acquire a player at a position (center) of desperate need.

Q. rembee: And yeah, we do need an enforcer down low. You think Wilcox is that guy?

A. Actually i think DeJuan Blair is that guy

rembee: I'd like to hear how David Lee is not a gifted offensive boarder but somehow is 7th in the league in offensive boards per game.

AM: offensive boards are nice. Being able to hold your ground in the post, extend the defense or block a shot is even better.

rembee: I'd also like to hear how we should expect Wilcox to snag only 2 fewer bounds per game when his career high is 4 below Lee's current production.

AM: For comparison, I selected Wilcox's 3 years in Seattle with the thought of stability and comparable minutes. I am an optimist and see potential for Wilcox, if he can be inspired to "have fun" in this system (as one poster submitted) to hold the line at the 4 until frontcourt reinforcements arrive.

rembee: I wonder if Wilcox ever averaged almost 19ppg, as Lee did in January and February, while shooting .550, in a set offense while being one of the focal points of opposing defenses.

AM: Never. But you can't convince me that running the pick and roll with a lead guard who looks for Wilcox as much as he looks for lee would not produce comparable results. Jump shooting is a wash. Both have limited range. Neither player has ever made a three point shot in their NBA career.

rembee: I'd like to know how anyone could be so sure that Wilcox would average 15 and 9 "no question" when both numbers are significantly higher than his career highs (when he put up points, by the way, primarily as a garbage man) four years ago.

The Answer Man: see above

rembee: I'd wonder how Wilcox (who passes the ball less than Zach Randolph did) would fit into D'Antoni's unselfish offense when replacing a gifted and willing passer.

AM: hold up, nobody passes the pill less than ZBo. If you watch Wilcox, he is not selfish with the ball.

rembee: Most of all, I wonder how we can evaluate a player who is essentially a journeyman and who may be on the downswing of his career (short as it has been) next to a guy who has improved his game every year and very likely will continue to do so.

The Answer Man: I hope Lee continues to improve. Same with Wilcox. In terms of experience they are only 3 years apart. On offense, the D'Antoni system favors offensive numbers skewing a bit higher, still I will grant Lee his superior output. On the other hand, this frontcourt discussion is more about defense and toughness at the big forward position.

It is about protecting the rim and grabbing rebounds in heavy traffic in the fourth quarter.

They both have work to do.

We start 5 guys that dont play defense.

Posted by King1:

We start 5 guys that dont play defense.

Too bad David Lee is the worst defender of all of them.

Posted by GKFv2:

Posted by King1:

We start 5 guys that dont play defense.

Too bad David Lee is the worst defender of all of them.

Harrington is worse.

Doesn't really matter, he sucks.