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3/17/2009  1:41 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

isles, i am one with the almighty. therefore i make fun of everyone equally. it's a trait i've perfected over the years. well, almost perfected, i still don't know what to say about folks from new zealand.



Your almights says folks from new zealand are just a bunch of kiwis.
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3/17/2009  1:44 PM
GOOD. I want him to develop, but I aso want his career to last more than one season
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3/17/2009  1:46 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by BlueSeats:

Not good. I'm not surprised, in spite of assurances from Isles and Pharze I knew he was not right. But this is not good.

the comparisons to bird are dead on now...yikes...

It ths Curious Case of Danillo Gallinari. He is having back problems now and then he will get a lot better and when he is 40 will have a back of an 18 year old. Here's to hoping.
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3/17/2009  1:50 PM
Isles is guarding himself emotionally so he won't get hurt.

Its ok, let it out. DOn't be afraid!
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3/17/2009  1:52 PM
Posted by Nalod:

Isles is guarding himself emotionally so he won't get hurt.

Its ok, let it out. DOn't be afraid!

Will you be my Robin Williams?
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3/17/2009  1:54 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Nalod:

Isles is guarding himself emotionally so he won't get hurt.

Its ok, let it out. DOn't be afraid!

Will you be my Robin Williams?

It's not your fault.
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3/17/2009  1:56 PM
Well Walsh really ****ed this one up with 3/4 serious players behind this kid. He better heal
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3/17/2009  1:58 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Nalod:

Isles is guarding himself emotionally so he won't get hurt.

Its ok, let it out. DOn't be afraid!

Will you be my Robin Williams?

It's not your fault.

You better not hug me now.

Damn, this means I'm good at math and DJ was right.

O/T We're beating Villanova. Shock the world in Philly, just like Rocky.
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3/17/2009  2:01 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by JamaicanJetFan:
Posted by islesfan:
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there was no recorded history of any injury prior to th draft. for all we know donnie walsh made a fantastic draft pick who fell prey to a freak injury when whalloped by tractor traylor. s##t happens my friends. the boston celtivs made a fantastic pick in selecting len bias and he offs himself with cocaine before playing a single game. what are ya gonna do?

Bias was a great pick and the right pick because he was the best player available to the Celtics. The same can't be said for the Knicks and their decision to take Gallinari.

What the Knicks should have done was pick a player who wasn't such a question mark when there were other players who were better and actually filled a need.



This is such a twist on the situation, that it's actually quite sickening.

The only 'questions' about Gallinari were whether or not he could translate his game to the NBA. It looks like he can...although it'll take another year or 2 to find out.

But you're stretching the situation to there having been 'questions' regarding his health...which were NOT THE CASE AT ALL.

Stop with the mindless ranting. You stated your case that you don't think he's talented. But don't lump that with the back issue.

I didn't. You're taking my comments out of context.

The questions that I'm talking about were about Gallinari overall, considering that the GM and the head coach both said they had never seen him play. There were other options that they could and should have evaluated to a greater degree than they did Gallinari. And better options at that.

It was also said that the Knicks have been scouting Gallinari for a few yrs under the Isiah Thomas regime. So while the head coach and Gm may not have seen him play. That doesn't mean that they weren't getting quality information about him from there scouts who were scouting him for yrs.

Gallinari wasn't drafted by the Knicks because MDA new the guys father. MDA wasn't the gm, Walsh was. Walsh drafted Gallo because of the reviews that the scouts (who again were scouting him for yrs as we were told) and Isiah Thomas who Walsh sent to Italy to watch play gave him.

If there were lingering back issues then Walsh would have known about it from the reviews from the scouts. He did not make a blind pick because of MDA's connections.

My quess is that all the scouts were in love with Gallo's passion, love, commitment, intangibles, IQ, Heart to and for the game of basketball plus the fact that he could flat out shoot it and felt he was a guy who would become great basketball player. They most likely sold Walsh on drafting him with there scouting reports of him. Walsh also said he never seen him play *live* I believe, he did see him on film though.
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3/17/2009  2:02 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Nalod:

Isles is guarding himself emotionally so he won't get hurt.

Its ok, let it out. DOn't be afraid!

Will you be my Robin Williams?

It's not your fault.

You better not hug me now.

Damn, this means I'm good at math and DJ was right.

O/T We're beating Villanova. Shock the world in Philly, just like Rocky.

I like our chances... I mean, the scariest part is also the least scary part... the game is essentially a home game for 'Nova, but in situations like that it is easy to take things for granted. Mercer and Carr is one fine backcourt... really is.

What are you doing for the game? I'm getting AllanFan'ed at the Clyde's in Friendship because pretty much all the bartenders went to AU
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3/17/2009  2:06 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by JamaicanJetFan:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Marv:

there was no recorded history of any injury prior to th draft. for all we know donnie walsh made a fantastic draft pick who fell prey to a freak injury when whalloped by tractor traylor. s##t happens my friends. the boston celtivs made a fantastic pick in selecting len bias and he offs himself with cocaine before playing a single game. what are ya gonna do?

Bias was a great pick and the right pick because he was the best player available to the Celtics. The same can't be said for the Knicks and their decision to take Gallinari.

What the Knicks should have done was pick a player who wasn't such a question mark when there were other players who were better and actually filled a need.



This is such a twist on the situation, that it's actually quite sickening.

The only 'questions' about Gallinari were whether or not he could translate his game to the NBA. It looks like he can...although it'll take another year or 2 to find out.

But you're stretching the situation to there having been 'questions' regarding his health...which were NOT THE CASE AT ALL.

Stop with the mindless ranting. You stated your case that you don't think he's talented. But don't lump that with the back issue.

I didn't. You're taking my comments out of context.

The questions that I'm talking about were about Gallinari overall, considering that the GM and the head coach both said they had never seen him play. There were other options that they could and should have evaluated to a greater degree than they did Gallinari. And better options at that.

It was also said that the Knicks have been scouting Gallinari for a few yrs under the Isiah Thomas regime. So while the head coach and Gm may not have seen him play. That doesn't mean that they weren't getting quality information about him from there scouts who were scouting him for yrs.

Gallinari wasn't drafted by the Knicks because MDA new the guys father. MDA wasn't the gm, Walsh was. Walsh drafted Gallo because of the reviews that the scouts (who again were scouting him for yrs as we were told) and Isiah Thomas who Walsh sent to Italy to watch play gave him.

If there were lingering back issues then Walsh would have known about it from the reviews from the scouts. He did not make a blind pick because of MDA's connections.

My quess is that all the scouts were in love with Gallo's passion, love, commitment, intangibles, IQ, Heart to and for the game of basketball plus the fact that he could flat out shoot it and felt he was a guy who would become great basketball player. They most likely sold Walsh on drafting him with there scouting reports of him. Walsh also said he never seen him play *live* I believe, he did see him on film though.

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3/17/2009  2:09 PM
Frye/Gallo his big lottery selections then, Eddy Curry for two lotto picks, how about we let someone else make the selection if that is true.

You can bring up Lee/Chandler/Nate all you want, but if Isiah selected Gallo and he is a primary scout this year I would be very worried
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3/17/2009  2:11 PM
Isles must be throwing a party at his house right about now.
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3/17/2009  2:12 PM
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by SupremeCommander:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Nalod:

Isles is guarding himself emotionally so he won't get hurt.

Its ok, let it out. DOn't be afraid!

Will you be my Robin Williams?

It's not your fault.

You better not hug me now.

Damn, this means I'm good at math and DJ was right.

O/T We're beating Villanova. Shock the world in Philly, just like Rocky.

I like our chances... I mean, the scariest part is also the least scary part... the game is essentially a home game for 'Nova, but in situations like that it is easy to take things for granted. Mercer and Carr is one fine backcourt... really is.

What are you doing for the game? I'm getting AllanFan'ed at the Clyde's in Friendship because pretty much all the bartenders went to AU

Yeah, other than the fact that it's being played in Villanova's backyard, I think it was the best matchup. Villanova isn't a big team so we don't have to be worried about being abused inside. If we can hit our shots and Villanova isn't (yeah, I know how simplistic that sounds) we have a chance. Mercer and Carr will have to play the game of their lives. It helps that they already have NCAA Tourney experience and can just go out there and play.

I'm probably just going to go to Duke's in the city with my college buddies. AU Alumni is having another viewing in the city but we usually avoid those things. It's nice that it's a primetime game and not at noon.
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3/17/2009  2:14 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

Isles must be throwing a party at his house right about now.

Well I am Irish.
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3/17/2009  2:16 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by newyorknewyork:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by JamaicanJetFan:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by Marv:

there was no recorded history of any injury prior to th draft. for all we know donnie walsh made a fantastic draft pick who fell prey to a freak injury when whalloped by tractor traylor. s##t happens my friends. the boston celtivs made a fantastic pick in selecting len bias and he offs himself with cocaine before playing a single game. what are ya gonna do?

Bias was a great pick and the right pick because he was the best player available to the Celtics. The same can't be said for the Knicks and their decision to take Gallinari.

What the Knicks should have done was pick a player who wasn't such a question mark when there were other players who were better and actually filled a need.



This is such a twist on the situation, that it's actually quite sickening.

The only 'questions' about Gallinari were whether or not he could translate his game to the NBA. It looks like he can...although it'll take another year or 2 to find out.

But you're stretching the situation to there having been 'questions' regarding his health...which were NOT THE CASE AT ALL.

Stop with the mindless ranting. You stated your case that you don't think he's talented. But don't lump that with the back issue.

I didn't. You're taking my comments out of context.

The questions that I'm talking about were about Gallinari overall, considering that the GM and the head coach both said they had never seen him play. There were other options that they could and should have evaluated to a greater degree than they did Gallinari. And better options at that.

It was also said that the Knicks have been scouting Gallinari for a few yrs under the Isiah Thomas regime. So while the head coach and Gm may not have seen him play. That doesn't mean that they weren't getting quality information about him from there scouts who were scouting him for yrs.

Gallinari wasn't drafted by the Knicks because MDA new the guys father. MDA wasn't the gm, Walsh was. Walsh drafted Gallo because of the reviews that the scouts (who again were scouting him for yrs as we were told) and Isiah Thomas who Walsh sent to Italy to watch play gave him.

If there were lingering back issues then Walsh would have known about it from the reviews from the scouts. He did not make a blind pick because of MDA's connections.

My quess is that all the scouts were in love with Gallo's passion, love, commitment, intangibles, IQ, Heart to and for the game of basketball plus the fact that he could flat out shoot it and felt he was a guy who would become great basketball player. They most likely sold Walsh on drafting him with there scouting reports of him. Walsh also said he never seen him play *live* I believe, he did see him on film though.


Yea because our scouts were the weak point during Isiah Thomas regime.
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3/17/2009  2:29 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by BlueSeats:

Not good. I'm not surprised, in spite of assurances from Isles and Pharze I knew he was not right. But this is not good.

No no, the assurances were from that liar Mike D'Antoni. The coach who only gives lip service to doing what's right for his players.

No, I agree with you. We should only judge a coach on what he says to the press. And Gallo should have never been allowed to play limited minutes to see how he responds, that's irresponsible.

I'm glad we agree. Because I know when a coach says that they have to do what's right for a player's health and career, it's typically not a throwaway line to the press. At least it sure as hell shouldn't be because that would just be irresponsible.

So true, and we all know the responsible thing would have been what you suggested, which is if he's going to play 1 minute than he should be playing "at least" 15 mins every night. Never let a player progress slowly the way doctors advise, do it harshly out of spite.

Of course as a fan, I can only go by what the organization says it's going to do, which was not to let him play until he was 100%. That seems like the responsible thing to do and of course I always advocated that route by suggesting that he should play at least 10 minutes a night based on the medical staff and head coach declaring him 100% healthy.

When did ANYONE EVER declare Gallo 100 % healthy?? Don't let the truth stand in the way off trashing the knicks. This is why in my book Isles has NO credibility. Show me, Isles anywhere where the coach ever said Gallo was 100% healthy.
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3/17/2009  2:54 PM
"Doctor says I need a backiotomy!"
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3/17/2009  2:55 PM
The only good news is that we can assume that if his back does get back to 100%, he will be a quicker and more fluid player. He was starting to look a little stiff to me. It is 50/50 at this point, whether this kid is going to be a bust. Hopefully, he can find some competent medical advice (non-Kick medical staff advice).
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3/17/2009  3:47 PM
Here is to hoping that the kid makes a 100% recovery. Really sad for someone with his talent and short history (leading his team and all) that he is now trying to cure an injury.

Let's see how this year turns out regarding our pick. Perhaps if we did draft a player we all wanted and they played well (e.g. - Lopez, Gordon, Randolph, etc.) we would have a lower pick coming this year. Perhaps it's a hidden blessing, or at least here is hoping...

Considering we are the #1 basketball market, we sure have had some really really bad luck...

[Edited by - earthmansurfer on 03-17-2009 3:49 PM]
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