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3/14/2009  12:17 AM
I think the Knicks *NEED* to play Nate at PG for an extended stretch to see if he can (or can't) do it. That will help us determine his value as a FA.
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3/14/2009  11:27 AM
Hats off to Nate. Great game last night! He looked a little off but that's to be expected because he played with a stomach virus and even threw up on the side of the bench last night according to the NY Post.

Wow! What was a off game turned out to be a gutsy performance!

Way to go big fella!
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3/14/2009  12:16 PM
First off, no Nate isn't a superstar, but trading him for a mid-round draft pick would be insane. Save for the first 5 picks or so, how many players are more talented than Nate and would be capable of averaging 27 plus over a ten game stretch? Like Eny said, we undervalue our oen players and overvalue everyone else's.

If nothing else, Nate is the perfect 6th man. Brings energy, can light up a scoreboard and completely change the pace and flow of a game. Those guys are not easy to come by. I can definitely see Nate as a valuable piece to a long, playoff run. For what he can give us, he will also come on a discount.

I say keep Nate as the 6th man all year which should undercut his value a bit. Pay him about 6 per, then give him a shot at the starting pg position next year. If he works out, we could have a starting point guard putting up the numbers of a pg making nearly 2 times what he would be making. if he doesn't work out as the starting pg, he can always resume his 6th man role which he has already proven to be a legit candidate for 6th man of the year honors.
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3/14/2009  12:50 PM
Posted by Uptown:

First off, no Nate isn't a superstar, but trading him for a mid-round draft pick would be insane. Save for the first 5 picks or so, how many players are more talented than Nate and would be capable of averaging 27 plus over a ten game stretch? Like Eny said, we undervalue our oen players and overvalue everyone else's.

If nothing else, Nate is the perfect 6th man. Brings energy, can light up a scoreboard and completely change the pace and flow of a game. Those guys are not easy to come by. I can definitely see Nate as a valuable piece to a long, playoff run. For what he can give us, he will also come on a discount.

I say keep Nate as the 6th man all year which should undercut his value a bit. Pay him about 6 per, then give him a shot at the starting pg position next year. If he works out, we could have a starting point guard putting up the numbers of a pg making nearly 2 times what he would be making. if he doesn't work out as the starting pg, he can always resume his 6th man role which he has already proven to be a legit candidate for 6th man of the year honors.


Yo Dude!! That was one of the best posts I've read in a while.



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3/14/2009  12:51 PM
People will turn on a Knicks game to watch Nate. He may not be a superstar, but its been a long time since we've had any player you could say that about.
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3/14/2009  1:02 PM
here's another down play....

Chris paul just dropped 30pts, 4 steals, 3 turnovers, 9 assists, 6 rebounds....on the bum ass Bucks...

Nate Robinson just dropped 25 pts, 2 steals, 4 turnovers, 7 assists, 6 rebounds...on the bum ass Timberwolves...

Comparable numbers...of course Chris Paul is better...but by how much? not light years...Nate may be a step behind only because he was never groomed to be the starting point guard.

Let me tell you guys something, again lol, Nate Robinson is a damn good player....its a crime this guy is not starting. Forget about not paying him...he needs to be a Knicks for years to come.
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3/14/2009  1:12 PM
I say s&t him with lee for a 1a or two second tier stars this off season.

Hoping someone takes curry in the process.

N8 is good on a sub 500 team, but there is a reason those types never win MVP.

He hasn't proven he can get us wins consistently.

Until them he's the same as Crawford.

I'd rather have al and number 0 go after Nash and boozer and entice with that squad.
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3/14/2009  1:14 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

here's another down play....

Chris paul just dropped 30pts, 4 steals, 3 turnovers, 9 assists, 6 rebounds....on the bum ass Bucks...

Nate Robinson just dropped 25 pts, 2 steals, 4 turnovers, 7 assists, 6 rebounds...on the bum ass Timberwolves...

Comparable numbers...of course Chris Paul is better...but by how much? not light years...Nate may be a step behind only because he was never groomed to be the starting point guard.

Let me tell you guys something, again lol, Nate Robinson is a damn good player....its a crime this guy is not starting. Forget about not paying him...he needs to be a Knicks for years to come.

Yes. This is getting ridiculous. I'm too tired from last night to explain why but it really is. I will soon though. Really now. Let's just say Nate is at a good level right now. He isn't elite or nowhere near it. Chris Paul and others are at least 5 notches above him. Bottom line. Cut and dry. End of story. The constant overrating of our own young players needs to stop. I know we haven't had much to be excited for all these years but that doesn't mean we have to be irrational.
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3/14/2009  2:53 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

here's another down play....

Chris paul just dropped 30pts, 4 steals, 3 turnovers, 9 assists, 6 rebounds....on the bum ass Bucks...

Nate Robinson just dropped 25 pts, 2 steals, 4 turnovers, 7 assists, 6 rebounds...on the bum ass Timberwolves...

Comparable numbers...of course Chris Paul is better...but by how much? not light years...Nate may be a step behind only because he was never groomed to be the starting point guard.

Let me tell you guys something, again lol, Nate Robinson is a damn good player....its a crime this guy is not starting. Forget about not paying him...he needs to be a Knicks for years to come.

Wow, just wow.

CP is light years better than Nate and then some. Nate could have been groomed to be a starting PG from birth and he would never have been close to CP. That's not hate, that's just indisputable fact.

I'll just chalk this up to Eny being a little excitable.

People really do need to stop overrating players just because they where the home white. I really think there are a good percentage of Knicks fans that think the Knicks have the core of a contending teal already in place.
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3/14/2009  3:55 PM
Nate not being light years behind CP3?

*In best Mark Jackson voice* "cmon Eny, you are better than that"
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3/14/2009  4:17 PM
Posted by Uptown:

First off, no Nate isn't a superstar, but trading him for a mid-round draft pick would be insane. Save for the first 5 picks or so, how many players are more talented than Nate and would be capable of averaging 27 plus over a ten game stretch? Like Eny said, we undervalue our oen players and overvalue everyone else's.

if we could trade Nate for an extra pick & take Demar Derozan i'd do it... i think he's got real star potential... i think Nate's sorta limited because of his size, even tho there are things he does really well that make him unique... i don't think he's the type of guy that u can build around tho, he's a complimentary type talent player IMHO... Derozan tho, has the potential to be that type of player... at this point i don't think our moves should be controlled by the fear of losing guys like Nate & D Lee... we need to keep the focus on finding franchise type talent to build around... that's the only consistent way to win championships in this league as it's been proven time & time again.
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3/14/2009  4:20 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Uptown:

First off, no Nate isn't a superstar, but trading him for a mid-round draft pick would be insane. Save for the first 5 picks or so, how many players are more talented than Nate and would be capable of averaging 27 plus over a ten game stretch? Like Eny said, we undervalue our oen players and overvalue everyone else's.

if we could trade Nate for an extra pick & take Demar Derozan i'd do it... i think he's got real star potential... i think Nate's sorta limited because of his size, even tho there are things he does really well that make him unique... i don't think he's the type of guy that u can build around tho, he's a complimentary type talent player IMHO... Derozan tho, has the potential to be that type of player... at this point i don't think our moves should be controlled by the fear of losing guys like Nate & D Lee... we need to keep the focus on finding franchise type talent to build around... that's the only consistent way to win championships in this league as it's been proven time & time again.

TMS... I admitally haven't seen alot of Derozan (he's one of the few guys I hadn't seen) until last night. Dude looks like a star and I know you been talkin him up alot here. I would definitely advocate the plan you just put forth to take him.
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3/14/2009  4:32 PM
thanks bro... i mean i'm sure there's other guys that would make great draft picks too but IMO there are only a select few in this draft that really have superstar potential, & Derozan has to be 1 of them.
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3/17/2009  12:03 PM
80 foot sign on the big stage.

Good for him.

Now lets see him lead the league in steals.
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3/17/2009  1:05 PM
Krypto-Nate a marketer's dream come through:
Top five jersey sales
About to release a version of the green Nike flight sneakers

Dude already earned MSG an additional couple of Mill$

Which is all they have ever cared about.


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3/22/2009  12:22 AM
The Knicks need to keep the five footer.

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3/22/2009  2:50 PM
Nate is a superstar.
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