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VDesai
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1/11/2009  11:40 PM
I think I'm at the point where I'd throw in Nate to dump Curry.

Curry is just so out of shape that I don't even think teams would go for that. If we could do Curry+Nate for Marion I'd do it in a heartbeat, but I guess we've already been laughed out of that proposal a few times.
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1/11/2009  11:43 PM
No team is taking Curry just for Nate. More like throw in pick 4--don't you think Miami wants to save their cap room in 2010 as wel? Did you see Curry--he's a year away not days.
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1/11/2009  11:46 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

No team is taking Curry just for Nate. More like throw in pick 4--don't you think Miami wants to save their cap room in 2010 as wel? Did you see Curry--he's a year away not days.

It would have to be for a team that really isn't in a position to be under the cap then, but could use Nate and potentially Curry. Maybe Dallas? Actually looks like they might get Felton
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1/11/2009  11:57 PM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by BRIGGS:

No team is taking Curry just for Nate. More like throw in pick 4--don't you think Miami wants to save their cap room in 2010 as wel? Did you see Curry--he's a year away not days.

It would have to be for a team that really isn't in a position to be under the cap then, but could use Nate and potentially Curry. Maybe Dallas? Actually looks like they might get Felton

I still contend that the Spurs would be a good landing spot for Curry. There is no better player for Curry to play next to and there is no better coach to get the most out of Curry than Pop. The only problem is that the Spurs literally have nothing to give us.

The Spurs could use Eddy's "low-post" scoring and Nate would be some youth and a great sparkplug off the bench for the team. Maybe you can call him Antonio Daniels part 2 from 1998.

For Curry/Nate I wouldn't mind taking back cap-fodder, George Hill and a couple a 1st rounder or two.
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1/12/2009  12:02 AM


For Curry/Nate I wouldn't mind taking back cap-fodder, George Hill and a couple a 1st rounder or two.
WHAT?
I think I may have to change contacts because I must be missing something--was the 350 pound man barely able to run up and down the court for 2 minutes the same guy you are talking about? No team is going to give you diddly for him unless there is a miracle with his body or we get a top 6 pick and are willing to give it up. Pipe dream anything else unless it's a money trade.

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1/12/2009  12:06 AM
Posted by VDesai:

It will be about winning if Lebron comes in with another top drawer FA. That alone could make this a better situation than Cleveland.

And all this we're doing is not about just signing one top ticket FA. If we play our cards correctly we will have the space for 2.

Cleveland will have more cap space than the Knicks, once Wallace's contract comes off the books.
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1/12/2009  12:06 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:



For Curry/Nate I wouldn't mind taking back cap-fodder, George Hill and a couple a 1st rounder or two.
WHAT?
I think I may have to change contacts because I must be missing something--was the 350 pound man barely able to run up and down the court for 2 minutes the same guy you are talking about? No team is going to give you diddly for him unless there is a miracle with his body or we get a top 6 pick and are willing to give it up. Pipe dream anything else unless it's a money trade.

Why is it a pipe dream? It is a high-risk high-reward deal for the Spurs. The Spurs are in a tough position, as they are constructed now they will not win the championship if they stay status-quo and they really don't have any pieces to trade to get any players to improve their team. In this type of deal they literally give up nothing and they get a player who if he listens to Popovich could end up being a major factor for them. They also get Nate Robinson to add to their bench.

I really don't see how this is such a proposterous deal, whether Curry is fat as hell or not.
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1/12/2009  12:17 AM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by BRIGGS:

No team is taking Curry just for Nate. More like throw in pick 4--don't you think Miami wants to save their cap room in 2010 as wel? Did you see Curry--he's a year away not days.

It would have to be for a team that really isn't in a position to be under the cap then, but could use Nate and potentially Curry. Maybe Dallas? Actually looks like they might get Felton

that is exactly the type of trade i think Donnie is probably looking into right now... teams that don't care about cap space in 2010, but are looking to shore up their bench for the stretch run this year... i think if after the trade deadline, nothing gets done in regards to Nate, Curry or D Lee, then people will have a legitimate reason to criticize Walsh's plan for the first time... there's no way he can allow Nate or D Lee to leave in free agency w/o getting back some kinda assets in return, whether that be in the form of young talent, draft picks, major cap space, or some combination of the 3.
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1/12/2009  12:19 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BRIGGS:



For Curry/Nate I wouldn't mind taking back cap-fodder, George Hill and a couple a 1st rounder or two.
WHAT?
I think I may have to change contacts because I must be missing something--was the 350 pound man barely able to run up and down the court for 2 minutes the same guy you are talking about? No team is going to give you diddly for him unless there is a miracle with his body or we get a top 6 pick and are willing to give it up. Pipe dream anything else unless it's a money trade.

Why is it a pipe dream? It is a high-risk high-reward deal for the Spurs. The Spurs are in a tough position, as they are constructed now they will not win the championship if they stay status-quo and they really don't have any pieces to trade to get any players to improve their team. In this type of deal they literally give up nothing and they get a player who if he listens to Popovich could end up being a major factor for them. They also get Nate Robinson to add to their bench.

I really don't see how this is such a proposterous deal, whether Curry is fat as hell or not.

Curry cant even play dude. When he loses 75 pounds and scores 20 points and grabs 10 rebounds--let me know about it. Curry has physical and mental problems--no one is touching that. I was high on Curry although I still cant believe we traded what we did to a team willing to retire him. Curry isn't the player we traded for anymore. He's a very big lazy man who appears very unhealthy. The Knicks are better angled to get him off the cap via injury exemption although they will being paying the full freight.
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1/12/2009  12:22 AM
That is the scary thing about Curry. He has practically ate himself out of the league and I cannot believe he did this on our watch. You'd think a guy we're paying $10 mil for we'd do something to watch the guys nutrition. It is unbelievable he is in the awful shape that he is in right now.
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1/12/2009  12:24 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:


Curry cant even play dude. When he loses 75 pounds and scores 20 points and grabs 10 rebounds--let me know about it. Curry has physical and mental problems--no one is touching that. I was high on Curry although I still cant believe we traded what we did to a team willing to retire him. Curry isn't the player we traded for anymore. He's a very big lazy man who appears very unhealthy. The Knicks are better angled to get him off the cap via injury exemption although they will being paying the full freight.

Briggs, I'm not disagreeing with a word you've said. I'm just saying that a team like the Spurs has no real way of upgrading their team unless they trade Duncan, Parker, or Ginobli and that ain't happening. I could see them taking a risk this year to win one last championship with this group and with the spare parts on that team they can't get a player that is going to make an impact for them - that's not to say Curry would, but if Pop was able to get him in shape he would be the type of player that team could use to solidify their roster and make that roster. Add to the fact that they are getting Nate who can be an asset for them off their bench.

I'm not saying the Spurs should do this trade, I'm just saying that they have to make these kind of deals to upgrade their teams and we should be looking for teams like that to see if we can somehow pull the wool over their eyes, nothing more, nothing less.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 01-12-2009 12:26 AM]
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1/12/2009  12:39 AM
how about Curry & Nate to CLE for Wally Z's expiring & 2nd round pick?
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1/12/2009  1:45 AM
Give Curry some time and direct all your prayers to him getting healthy and playing well, because it would be great to trade him soon.

The Marbury trade is a great idea I hope Walsh tries to explore. We need as many picks as we can get.


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1/12/2009  1:51 AM
Posted by TMS:

how about Curry & Nate to CLE for Wally Z's expiring & 2nd round pick?

Yeah, it's not like the Cavs are trying to clear cap space themselves.
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1/12/2009  1:55 AM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by TMS:

how about Curry & Nate to CLE for Wally Z's expiring & 2nd round pick?

Yeah, it's not like the Cavs are trying to clear cap space themselves.

they don't need cap space to re-sign Lebron, they own his Bird Rights... they wanna keep Lebron there by winning now... i'm not saying Nate & Curry are gonna take them over the edge, but they will be a huge upgrade over Wally Z, it's not even close enough for debate.
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1/12/2009  2:02 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Pharzeone:
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how about Curry & Nate to CLE for Wally Z's expiring & 2nd round pick?

Yeah, it's not like the Cavs are trying to clear cap space themselves.

they don't need cap space to re-sign Lebron, they own his Bird Rights... they wanna keep Lebron there by winning now... i'm not saying Nate & Curry are gonna take them over the edge, but they will be a huge upgrade over Wally Z, it's not even close enough for debate.

But they would like to convince Bosh to sign with them, wouldn't they?


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1/12/2009  2:05 AM
But they would like to convince Bosh to sign with them, wouldn't they?

this is true also... unlike us tho, they have more options available to them, because they are already a good team & they are focused on winning right now, not 2 years from now... i dunno what CLE will really be interested in doing but i do think that winning now should be their main concern & not 2010, like ours is & should be.
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1/12/2009  8:35 AM
Until Curry gets in shape, nobody is taking him. He simply makes too much many and his contract last too long for a team to risk it at this point. Walsh was hoping his fat butt could be showcased for the next 3-4 weeks but I doubt Curry would be ready to really contribute before February at the earliest (he might play spot minutes but he is not going to really get solid PT until he gets into shape). We are probably stuck with Curry until the summer. If he can get into some kind of shape before the end of the season and can play decently, we probably can unload him this summer without having to take back a overly bad contract.
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1/12/2009  9:53 AM
I think it's evident we are not going to win no matter how hard we try. Harrington is really showing the player he is lately, we don't have a post game or a consistent outside shooter so I don't think we are going to win a lot of games.

The Thunder will win some games as will the clippers when they get healthy I think the lottery is going to be looking a lot better. Walsh will make a move when the time is right.

I think there are only 3 players on the roster a gm would think about keeping: Lee, Chandler, and Duhon. And I think down the second half of the season depending on where we are you going to see Gallo playing big minutes along with those three. We are going to get a good player in the draft and probably move Lee, so if we can secure a starting position player at the C/PF/PG in the draft we are in great position.

Gallo, needs to really turn into something special because Lopez is fringe All Star by 2010 and a number of players in this class are going to be great. By all means if you can do Lee deal and get back a Randolf/Bayless player who will not hurt the cap do it, but make sure Jefferies is included in that deal.
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1/12/2009  9:56 AM
Posted by BRIGGS:



For Curry/Nate I wouldn't mind taking back cap-fodder, George Hill and a couple a 1st rounder or two.
WHAT?
I think I may have to change contacts because I must be missing something--was the 350 pound man barely able to run up and down the court for 2 minutes the same guy you are talking about? No team is going to give you diddly for him unless there is a miracle with his body or we get a top 6 pick and are willing to give it up. Pipe dream anything else unless it's a money trade.

Well to be FAIR..he is the same guy you go on and on about how he's a unique talent and how we must trade Zach to accomodate him...but its been a while since u've been singing that tune
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