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tommydee21
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1/4/2009  4:34 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by tommydee21:

first off thanks martin, I know you're always paying attention.

Secondly guys in fairness, you can blast my site if you want. I have already built some credibility, but this is not about me, never has been. Let's just be clear.

I have sources around the league (not that difficult when you know the right people) and i had someone post the clippers deal in my comment section. I got on the phone and no one had heard of it but I heard plenty of rumblings that the Blazers have a man crush on lee for the reason stated. They appear to be interested in making a move.

For me there would have to be a third team involved, but I haven't confirmed with sources ( or the people who helped me break the Randolph trade 15 minutes before Alan hahn as well as Marbury suiting up. I also had Harrington for Crawford on the radar in July. It's on the blog check it out) about this clippers thing, so at this point I'm not putting my name to it.



I have a lingering question on my mind.

fair enough...
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1/4/2009  4:42 PM
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knicks could've just drafted bayless, no?

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1/4/2009  4:51 PM
I want to be clear on a few things. TheKnicksBlog did not break the Randolph trade first, ESPN and the Daily News did.

I have never seen this site ever, EVER get anything correct with their "rumors." You want to look at it as me disrespecting your site, go ahead, but this is not what it is. Most of yours rumors are simply ideas passed off as rumors or a rumor you heard from the guy selling hot dogs in the corner. Unless you are 100% correct this is true, don't post this on our board or any board to try and create some buzz. We don't need fake buzz. We need real buzz.
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1/4/2009  4:54 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

I want to be clear on a few things. TheKnicksBlog did not break the Randolph trade first, ESPN and the Daily News did.

I have never seen this site ever, EVER get anything correct with their "rumors." You want to look at it as me disrespecting your site, go ahead, but this is not what it is. Most of yours rumors are simply ideas passed off as rumors or a rumor you heard from the guy selling hot dogs in the corner. Unless you are 100% correct this is true, don't post this on our board or any board to try and create some buzz. We don't need fake buzz. We need real buzz.




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1/4/2009  4:55 PM
Honestly The Tommy Dee scenario would be nice as well,, IMO

Camby/ Curry/ Jordan/ James
Jeffries/ Harrington
Chandler/ Thomas/ Gallinari
Robinson/ Bayless
Duhon/ Hart


But my question is why LA or Portland are inclined to pull the trigger on this deal? Especially if the Clippers have to give up Camby Man?


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1/4/2009  4:55 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by GKFv2:

I want to be clear on a few things. TheKnicksBlog did not break the Randolph trade first, ESPN and the Daily News did.

I have never seen this site ever, EVER get anything correct with their "rumors." You want to look at it as me disrespecting your site, go ahead, but this is not what it is. Most of yours rumors are simply ideas passed off as rumors or a rumor you heard from the guy selling hot dogs in the corner. Unless you are 100% correct this is true, don't post this on our board or any board to try and create some buzz. We don't need fake buzz. We need real buzz.




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1/4/2009  4:55 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

I want to be clear on a few things. TheKnicksBlog did not break the Randolph trade first, ESPN and the Daily News did.

I have never seen this site ever, EVER get anything correct with their "rumors." You want to look at it as me disrespecting your site, go ahead, but this is not what it is. Most of yours rumors are simply ideas passed off as rumors or a rumor you heard from the guy selling hot dogs in the corner. Unless you are 100% correct this is true, don't post this on our board or any board to try and create some buzz. We don't need fake buzz. We need real buzz.

GKF, seriously, back down. We welcome Tommy posting his stuff and wish there was a better way to include his blog items on our site. I have no clue where you come off as taking the position you just wrote about and think it's clearly way off.
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1/4/2009  5:00 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by GKFv2:

I want to be clear on a few things. TheKnicksBlog did not break the Randolph trade first, ESPN and the Daily News did.

I have never seen this site ever, EVER get anything correct with their "rumors." You want to look at it as me disrespecting your site, go ahead, but this is not what it is. Most of yours rumors are simply ideas passed off as rumors or a rumor you heard from the guy selling hot dogs in the corner. Unless you are 100% correct this is true, don't post this on our board or any board to try and create some buzz. We don't need fake buzz. We need real buzz.

GKF, seriously, back down. We welcome Tommy posting his stuff and wish there was a better way to include his blog items on our site. I have no clue where you come off as taking the position you just wrote about and think it's clearly way off.

A nice introduction would have been in order. My lingering question has been answered. It makes sense now. Excuse us Tommy. We are a very passionate bunch. I'm sure you understand.
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1/4/2009  5:00 PM
GK we had randolph to the clips about 6 hours before ESPN did. Alan hahn had the names at 9:20 am I made a post that the clips were involved, no names, at 9 am. ESPN "reported" the deal was done, but we were the first to have the clips involved.

You're thinking the NY Post and you're thinking the Harrington/Crawford trade, to which they had Malik Rose not Crawford at first.

the holdup was that it was to be a 3 team trade, remember the Harrington trade didn't go down until noonish, then the clips and knicks kept talking.

Again, I can take criticism, as long as it's correct.
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1/4/2009  5:06 PM
Tommy, I'm a big Lee fan (I think as you well know). My question is 'is there a specific reason why the brass would be engaging in trading Lee?' The only thing I have to go by is what people here say and that's that they don't think his defense is worth keeping him.
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1/4/2009  5:06 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by martin:
Posted by GKFv2:

I want to be clear on a few things. TheKnicksBlog did not break the Randolph trade first, ESPN and the Daily News did.

I have never seen this site ever, EVER get anything correct with their "rumors." You want to look at it as me disrespecting your site, go ahead, but this is not what it is. Most of yours rumors are simply ideas passed off as rumors or a rumor you heard from the guy selling hot dogs in the corner. Unless you are 100% correct this is true, don't post this on our board or any board to try and create some buzz. We don't need fake buzz. We need real buzz.

GKF, seriously, back down. We welcome Tommy posting his stuff and wish there was a better way to include his blog items on our site. I have no clue where you come off as taking the position you just wrote about and think it's clearly way off.

A nice introduction would have been in order. My lingering question has been answered. It makes sense now. Excuse us Tommy. We are a very passionate bunch. I'm sure you understand.

I think you missed it. I actually had asked Tommy to create a thread and introduce his site a long while back and lots posted in that thread. Go over to theknicksblog.com and follow it for a while, best way for an intro now.

In fact, use the Search function that Bip provided and find the thread yourself.
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1/4/2009  5:08 PM
Posted by 4949:

Tommy, I'm a big Lee fan (I think as you well know). My question is 'is there a specific reason why the brass would be engaging in trading Lee?' The only thing I have to go by is what people here say and that's that they don't think his defense is worth keeping him.

I am a little surprised you can't answer that yourself. Donnie is in rebuild mode, which also means no one is untouchable in several different categories: their impact on the 2010 free agent signing summer, upgrading in roster, building for the future, ability to re-sign Lee in general, ability to move pieces with Lee for the 2010 season, etc.
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1/4/2009  5:08 PM
They've been interested in Lee for about 2yrs now. They have just the right amount of cap space to sign him next yr.
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1/4/2009  5:10 PM
Posted by GallOfFame:

They've been interested in Lee for about 2yrs now. They have just the right amount of cap space to sign him next yr.

Right, but that's a risk. IF the Knicks don't trade Lee to another team. IF Lee doesn't resign with the Knicks.

If they want Lee now to assure that the those 2 scenarios don't occur, trade for him now.
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1/4/2009  5:11 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by 4949:

Tommy, I'm a big Lee fan (I think as you well know). My question is 'is there a specific reason why the brass would be engaging in trading Lee?' The only thing I have to go by is what people here say and that's that they don't think his defense is worth keeping him.
I am a little surprised you can't answer that yourself. Donnie is in rebuild mode, which also means no one is untouchable in several different categories: their impact on the 2010 free agent signing summer, upgrading in roster, building for the future, ability to re-sign Lee in general, ability to move pieces with Lee for the 2010 season, etc.
And even if someone was untouchable, Lee would not be it. A PF/C that does not post up, cannot block or play D and has limited shooting range does not deserve to be untouchable. He is a good PF and one of the better players on the Knicks right now but come on!
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1/4/2009  5:12 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by martin:
Posted by GKFv2:

I want to be clear on a few things. TheKnicksBlog did not break the Randolph trade first, ESPN and the Daily News did.

I have never seen this site ever, EVER get anything correct with their "rumors." You want to look at it as me disrespecting your site, go ahead, but this is not what it is. Most of yours rumors are simply ideas passed off as rumors or a rumor you heard from the guy selling hot dogs in the corner. Unless you are 100% correct this is true, don't post this on our board or any board to try and create some buzz. We don't need fake buzz. We need real buzz.

GKF, seriously, back down. We welcome Tommy posting his stuff and wish there was a better way to include his blog items on our site. I have no clue where you come off as taking the position you just wrote about and think it's clearly way off.

A nice introduction would have been in order. My lingering question has been answered. It makes sense now. Excuse us Tommy. We are a very passionate bunch. I'm sure you understand.

I think you missed it. I actually had asked Tommy to create a thread and introduce his site a long while back and lots posted in that thread. Go over to theknicksblog.com and follow it for a while, best way for an intro now.

In fact, use the Search function that Bip provided and find the thread yourself.

You got it sir.
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1/4/2009  5:13 PM
Sergio, Bayless and their 2009 first rd pick for Lee.
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1/4/2009  5:13 PM
Posted by 4949:

Tommy, I'm a big Lee fan (I think as you well know). My question is 'is there a specific reason why the brass would be engaging in trading Lee?' The only thing I have to go by is what people here say and that's that they don't think his defense is worth keeping him.

Check us out 49, and thanks again Martin, you know I dig this site.

AS far as lee is concerned, Martin hit in on the head, he's been the biggest question mark in terms of what walsh is going to do because I'm really waiting for Walsh to add a contract past 2010. It could be lee it could be nate, it could be diaw it may be none.

Walsh doesn't want to commit so he passed on his chance with Nate and Lee and will let the market dictate their value. I think Walsh has a pretty good idea that lee will get between 7-9 mill per mid-to-long term.

If that's the case he may be better off dealing him.
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1/4/2009  5:20 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by martin:
Posted by 4949:

Tommy, I'm a big Lee fan (I think as you well know). My question is 'is there a specific reason why the brass would be engaging in trading Lee?' The only thing I have to go by is what people here say and that's that they don't think his defense is worth keeping him.
I am a little surprised you can't answer that yourself. Donnie is in rebuild mode, which also means no one is untouchable in several different categories: their impact on the 2010 free agent signing summer, upgrading in roster, building for the future, ability to re-sign Lee in general, ability to move pieces with Lee for the 2010 season, etc.
And even if someone was untouchable, Lee would not be it. A PF/C that does not post up, cannot block or play D and has limited shooting range does not deserve to be untouchable. He is a good PF and one of the better players on the Knicks right now but come on!

Never mind.

[Edited by - 4949 on 01-04-2009 5:26 PM]
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1/4/2009  5:23 PM
There are never a guarantee but PF's generally play a little defense so we should be able to upgrade.
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