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12/3/2008  7:06 PM
Posted by GKFv2:

Who cares? You are making a big deal about the 12th guy on the active roster. If everyone was healthy, he wouldn't be playing and neither would any of the other guys you mentioned.

i care... i usually like acquisitions to make some semblence of sense just like some other posters around here do... if u don't care good for you.

[Edited by - TMS on 12-03-2008 4:10 PM]
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12/3/2008  7:12 PM
We should all care because in an NBA season there are times where you need your 12th man to play. As we've seen with the heavy minutes Roberson has been logging recently. I totally agree about Gerald Green. Dude is a starter for the MAVS now.
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12/3/2008  7:18 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by GKFv2:

Who cares? You are making a big deal about the 12th guy on the active roster. If everyone was healthy, he wouldn't be playing and neither would any of the other guys you mentioned.

i care... i usually like acquisitions to make some semblence of sense just like some other posters around here do... if u don't care good for you.

[Edited by - TMS on 12-03-2008 4:10 PM]

Please act your age and leave the petty insults to people who don't agree with you out of the picture.

Anthony Roberson is irrelevant to the team. 12-15th men on the team are not required to really do anything because they are not expected to be called upon. Search the league and look at everyone's bench. They all have scrubs. Not everyone on a roster is going to be a contributor. So no, I don't care about a guy who is supposed to warm the bench when the team is healthy.
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12/3/2008  7:20 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by GKFv2:

Who cares? You are making a big deal about the 12th guy on the active roster. If everyone was healthy, he wouldn't be playing and neither would any of the other guys you mentioned.

i care... i usually like acquisitions to make some semblence of sense just like some other posters around here do... if u don't care good for you.

[Edited by - TMS on 12-03-2008 4:10 PM]

Please act your age and leave the petty insults to people who don't agree with you out of the picture.

Anthony Roberson is irrelevant to the team. 12-15th men on the team are not required to really do anything because they are not expected to be called upon. Search the league and look at everyone's bench. They all have scrubs. Not everyone on a roster is going to be a contributor. So no, I don't care about a guy who is supposed to warm the bench when the team is healthy.

the hell are u talking about? i insulted u? if u consider that an insult i would advise u to take a long close look at some of the garbage u post on these boards on a regular basis.

& again, if ur satisfied w/Roberson, good for you... don't suggest to me how i should feel about a player who i feel isn't an NBA caliber talent & has no place on this roster.
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12/3/2008  7:20 PM
I have no issues with Walsh has done to date. No one's perfect and like someone else said before he has shown about a 70% strike rate. We have been so badly bruised by Isiah that we start criticizing everything we see. Its a hangover from sadder times.

But things are moving ahead, and we are actually in a much better position than two months ago, plus our coach has gotten dead men walking for 500 season no less. Its time for some optimism dudes.
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12/3/2008  7:24 PM
Posted by loweyecue:

I have no issues with Walsh has done to date. No one's perfect and like someone else said before he has shown about a 70% strike rate. We have been so badly bruised by Isiah that we start criticizing everything we see. Its a hangover from sadder times.

But things are moving ahead, and we are actually in a much better position than two months ago, plus our coach has gotten dead men walking for 500 season no less. Its time for some optimism dudes.

i don't have any major issues w/Walsh either... don't see anything wrong w/pointing out some moves u didn't agree with... that's what this forum is here for.
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12/3/2008  7:27 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by TMS:
Posted by GKFv2:

Who cares? You are making a big deal about the 12th guy on the active roster. If everyone was healthy, he wouldn't be playing and neither would any of the other guys you mentioned.

i care... i usually like acquisitions to make some semblence of sense just like some other posters around here do... if u don't care good for you.

[Edited by - TMS on 12-03-2008 4:10 PM]

Please act your age and leave the petty insults to people who don't agree with you out of the picture.

Anthony Roberson is irrelevant to the team. 12-15th men on the team are not required to really do anything because they are not expected to be called upon. Search the league and look at everyone's bench. They all have scrubs. Not everyone on a roster is going to be a contributor. So no, I don't care about a guy who is supposed to warm the bench when the team is healthy.

the hell are u talking about? i insulted u? if u consider that an insult i would advise u to take a long close look at some of the garbage u post on these boards on a regular basis.

& again, if ur satisfied w/Roberson, good for you... don't suggest to me how i should feel about a player who i feel isn't an NBA caliber talent & has no place on this roster.

Right. No need to get mad. I'm not the one throwing the insults here. All I said is I don't care about Roberson. I didn't say I like him. I didn't say I am satisfied with him. I just said he is irrelevant to the team. You think differently. Good for you. See? No insults necessary.
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12/3/2008  7:52 PM
Posted by kam77:

We should all care because in an NBA season there are times where you need your 12th man to play. As we've seen with the heavy minutes Roberson has been logging recently. I totally agree about Gerald Green. Dude is a starter for the MAVS now.

he's been sorta struggling this season but the guy's got tremendous athletic ability & u can justify taking a flyer on a kid like that.

i just hope a roster spot is opened up for PEJ soon & both Nate & Mobley get healthy fast.
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12/3/2008  7:55 PM
is there a better FA guard than Roberson out there right now? Yes, he's a YMCA player but ironicly its a good signing because we need him. He makes the min so whoop de do.
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12/3/2008  8:18 PM
Right now the only grade you can give Walsh, D'Antoni and anyone on the Knicks is, at best, incomplete as this plan is set up for two years, not for now. Walsh did what he wanted in shedding some of the big contracts. D'Antoni is doing what he wants in installing his system. They both did a horrendous job with Marbury but Steph is just as guilty and in the end, there is always a circus in NY so what gives?

Im so effing tired of the Knicks sucking and right now, as we see ourselves struggle in another blowout against the Cavs I can see no light at the end of the tunnel no matter what the media says, the fans says or whoever says. In terms of the Knicks playing with only 7 players every game I can only feel so much anger because its the GMs job to get players to play but that hasn't been the case. Yeah, many are injured and you can't control that. Nate and Jeffreis. But they hurried Gallo. They made the trade even with Mobley's heart being an issue, and getting no compensation. They have or have not been tough enough on Curry to get in shape but he still isn't and that is terrible. Marbury, for all the drama, is a player that could've helped, love him or hate him. If the plan was to buy him out then work it before the season. If the plan was to trade him, then why the heck don't you play him if at the end the season matters you nothing? Jerome James is another waste of a roster spot and nothing is being done about that. Rose could be bought out now and get a hungry player from the NBDL or somewhere else that can at least give the 7 guys a rest.

As you can read Im extremely pissed off about this situation and Im not gonna go jumping saying Walsh and D'Antoni are great because they still have much to do and so far have had their good days and bad days. But bottom line is that the Knicks become a solid contending team. Since it isn't 2010 yet, I say right now the best you can say is it is incomplete.

LOTS OF THINGS TO DO FOR WALSH AND D'ANTONI. The Knicks are still a joke, so the job is not yet done.
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12/4/2008  8:49 AM
After last nights game, I need to remember that I have a sense of humor. Does anybody else think the team quit on their coach last night?
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12/4/2008  8:57 AM
So far I think hes done well, and I am really grateful that Walsh has done those trades to be under the cap by 2010. He has been lucky with the duhon signing and has proved me wrong, because the guy is playing very well and above what anyone expected.

The only things Im not happy about is the Marbury situation (dont know if its Walsh or D'Antoni to blame more for it), and well, I would have given Ewing a chance instead of Roberson. I cant comment on Gallinari yet, but theres not many good (nor relevant) things to say at this point.

But overall, I was very frustrated when the season started, and now Im comfortable by knowing that at least, we will have a chance to become a better team in the long term. He did what GM's do, to choose a way to follow, and lets hope he takes the right path in 2010.

So keep the good job, and I'll definately stop being so skeptic.

[Edited by - DarkKnicks on 04-12-2008 2:58 PM]
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12/4/2008  9:21 AM
Getting rid of Zach - A+ Great job getting rid of albatross

Trading Crawford for Harrington - A Great job getting value for a chucker

Trading Balkman for nothing - C Didn't necessarily have a role but had some value

Drafting Gallinari - F- You just can't blow lottery picks when you're rebuilding

Hiring D'Antoni - B- He'll get you to respectable but a lack of focus on team defense will always come back to hurt the team

Not coming into the season with a plan for Marbury - F It was no secret that Marbury had to go

Destroying Curry's value - D The only hope is that he wants out so badly now that he opts out
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12/4/2008  9:35 AM
Walsh and MDA should meet with Joe Torre and get schooled on how to deal with players who think they are superstars. Torre had a good way with star personalities
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12/4/2008  9:41 AM
Posted by islesfan:

Getting rid of Zach - A+ Great job getting rid of albatross

Trading Crawford for Harrington - A Great job getting value for a chucker

Trading Balkman for nothing - C Didn't necessarily have a role but had some value

Drafting Gallinari - F- You just can't blow lottery picks when you're rebuilding

Hiring D'Antoni - B- He'll get you to respectable but a lack of focus on team defense will always come back to hurt the team

Not coming into the season with a plan for Marbury - F It was no secret that Marbury had to go

Destroying Curry's value - D The only hope is that he wants out so badly now that he opts out

Curry has destroyed his own value, what more could the GM do? Dude has been hurt.

We got a second rounder out of the Balk deal but we probably should have kept on of the other guys.

Was the Oden pick a F last year too?
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12/4/2008  9:42 AM
Posted by Rookie:

Walsh and MDA should meet with Joe Torre and get schooled on how to deal with players who think they are superstars. Torre had a good way with star personalities

LOL, Marbury is a superstar? I think Walsh hired MDA for his access to superstars ala the Olympics, and from what was reported, all of the players loved him.
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12/4/2008  9:51 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by islesfan:

Getting rid of Zach - A+ Great job getting rid of albatross

Trading Crawford for Harrington - A Great job getting value for a chucker

Trading Balkman for nothing - C Didn't necessarily have a role but had some value

Drafting Gallinari - F- You just can't blow lottery picks when you're rebuilding

Hiring D'Antoni - B- He'll get you to respectable but a lack of focus on team defense will always come back to hurt the team

Not coming into the season with a plan for Marbury - F It was no secret that Marbury had to go

Destroying Curry's value - D The only hope is that he wants out so badly now that he opts out

Curry has destroyed his own value, what more could the GM do? Dude has been hurt.

We got a second rounder out of the Balk deal but we probably should have kept on of the other guys.

Was the Oden pick a F last year too?


You beat me to this. I agree with most of Isles grade with the exception of Gallo who hasn't played so that should be incomplete. Too eraly to say this guy is a bust. I also disagree about Curry. Currys value was destroyed last year when Isiah, who did a good job of building Curry's value up 2 years ago, completely destroyed it with the aquisition of Zach.
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12/4/2008  10:00 AM
Nicks get an A from me as they have a plan and are working it.
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12/4/2008  10:01 AM
Posted by Rookie:

After last nights game, I need to remember that I have a sense of humor. Does anybody else think the team quit on their coach last night?

Quit?

Rookie - please, enough with the cliche's.

What evidence are you presenting to make such an assessment?

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12/4/2008  10:35 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by islesfan:

Getting rid of Zach - A+ Great job getting rid of albatross

Trading Crawford for Harrington - A Great job getting value for a chucker

Trading Balkman for nothing - C Didn't necessarily have a role but had some value

Drafting Gallinari - F- You just can't blow lottery picks when you're rebuilding

Hiring D'Antoni - B- He'll get you to respectable but a lack of focus on team defense will always come back to hurt the team

Not coming into the season with a plan for Marbury - F It was no secret that Marbury had to go

Destroying Curry's value - D The only hope is that he wants out so badly now that he opts out

Curry has destroyed his own value, what more could the GM do? Dude has been hurt.

We got a second rounder out of the Balk deal but we probably should have kept on of the other guys.

Was the Oden pick a F last year too?

Curry was a DNP-CD before he got hurt.

With Balkman being of the few guys that tried on defense, it would have been interesting to see him play in D'Antoni's system. I think he would have been a decent fit. That of course could have raised his value. Dumping players because they didn't get rid of James or have the foresight to get rid of Marbury earlier cost them roster spots. That falls on Walsh.

There's every reason to believe that Oden's leg will heal. Bad backs can linger for a player's entire career. Plus the Trailblazers were in a much different situation with a good young nucleus already in place. As for the Knicks, last year's lottery pick and this years pick should be cornerstones for a rebuilding franchise. To miss badly on either sets the franchise back tremendously.
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