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ToddTT
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10/27/2008  5:54 PM
Thank goodness. Jerome's minutes and Roberson's 20% shooting will really come in handy.

[Edited by - ToddTT on 10-27-2008 6:09 PM]
Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
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10/27/2008  6:00 PM
Posted by Cosmic:

Unpopular move but I'm not surprised.

Seems like a waste though rushing to sign Roberson then inexplicably trading for a guaranteed contract in Ewing knowing you'd have to decide between the two.

Isiah did the same thing with Jared Jordan and Nichols last year.

Wasteful moves.

The one thing that really gets me is I'd much rather have Balkman and Ewing Jr on the roster than Malik and Jerome.

I'm tired of hearing it'd be wasteful to buy them out. It's going to cost you 20M total regardless. I'd rather those two never played for the Knicks again than trying to force them into games so you can reason keeping them. I also am sick and tired of trading expirings for other people's trash so again I don't value Malik's expiring nor Jeromes 2010 expiring on a trade front.

Oh well....on to the season I suppose. About 50 hours to go.

Yeah, it's shame that guys like James who contribute nothing get to stick around, because of their fat contract, while a young player, like Ewing Jr, even if he's a project, is sent packing, it's not right at all.
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10/27/2008  6:22 PM
we basically threw Balkman away & cut Ewing Jr., 2 SF's who could at the very least get the Garden crowd up on its feet & into the games w/their athleticism & hustle, just so we can have a completely insignificant 5th PG on the roster that has no role other than to fill a roster spot that didn't even need to be filled to begin with???... has anything changed w/the new GM or is he the same clueless fool as the one he replaced?
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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10/27/2008  6:31 PM
So dissapointing, throw the fans a bone, I spoke to a few casual knicks fans today who were really dissapointed, we better get something sweet for maliks expiring...we all know the right move is to just say **** it and release rose.

Thank god this thread has the awesome wee bay gif...ty.
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10/27/2008  6:32 PM
I meant James, but yea release rose too. Or don't sign a meh pg like duhon, when we have a younger version in mardy. SO AGITATED.
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10/27/2008  6:36 PM
so much for caring any more.

when you have mistakes (jj1, malik, roberson signed off a game of horse) that force other mistakes, you know you are still ****ed.

if our shooting is so bad we need roberson, I am sorry, but our season is over.

ewing at least had potential to be a great story and sell jersey's.

who the **** cares about roberson?

I can't wait for this all midget line up:
nate
roberson
marbury
collins
crawford
ToddTT
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10/27/2008  6:39 PM
I'm so tired of being a Knicks fan.
Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
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10/27/2008  7:35 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

pros and cons

walsh probably felt having expirings like malik or jerome (next year) is more beneficial than keeping a raw player like ewing and trying to develop him. they probably knew it from the get go so i'm not sure why he was even brought here...

[Edited by - djsunyc on 10-27-2008 2:27 PM]


Wow' just got the news. I haven't had time all day to find out, but wow!

I'm actually kind of surprised, but it is now official. Walsh isn't screwing around. I hope Ewing stays and develops and maybe he can make the team a little later, if he improves more. Initially I didn't think signing him based on one 9 minute game was enough, and I guess Walsh didn't think so either. Roberson I think will be just fine. He is known for his sharp shooting and I expect him to hit them when we need them. We still got a long ways to go.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/27/2008  7:47 PM
This organization needs soul, heart, will to win rather than management descipline. Ewing Jr. can bring heart which we have not seen from this team for a long time. Walsh does not know what brought Knicks to contender level in 90's.

I'm also tired of being a Knicks fan as well.
When can we feel a full of energy at MSG again?
Never ?
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10/27/2008  7:48 PM
I think Walsh is saving all of his big moves for later, when he goes for some kind of kill. Why buyout now, when you can do it for something much more important and get the approval to do it with.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/27/2008  7:50 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

pros and cons

walsh probably felt having expirings like malik or jerome (next year) is more beneficial than keeping a raw player like ewing and trying to develop him. they probably knew it from the get go so i'm not sure why he was even brought here...

[Edited by - djsunyc on 10-27-2008 2:27 PM]

If you trade Jerome and/or Malik Rose, kiss the 2010 goodbye.
Thank you, Rick Brunson.
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10/27/2008  7:51 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by djsunyc:

pros and cons

walsh probably felt having expirings like malik or jerome (next year) is more beneficial than keeping a raw player like ewing and trying to develop him. they probably knew it from the get go so i'm not sure why he was even brought here...

[Edited by - djsunyc on 10-27-2008 2:27 PM]

If you trade Jerome and/or Malik Rose, kiss the 2010 goodbye.

Why is that?
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10/27/2008  8:07 PM
Posted by 4949:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by djsunyc:

pros and cons

walsh probably felt having expirings like malik or jerome (next year) is more beneficial than keeping a raw player like ewing and trying to develop him. they probably knew it from the get go so i'm not sure why he was even brought here...

[Edited by - djsunyc on 10-27-2008 2:27 PM]

If you trade Jerome and/or Malik Rose, kiss the 2010 goodbye.

Why is that?

Why? Because their contracts expire in 2010. Unless someone is trading you an expiring for an expiring, then you will take back longer salary in the end. And what team will trade their own expiring contract for Jerome James? I am willing to bet that every player with an expiring contract out there is better than Jerome James and Malik Rose. Nobody is taking those guys unless they give you back longer contracts and taking on a longer contract means that unless you trade Crawford, Curry, AND Randolph for expirings then you can kiss the 2010 dream goodbye.
Thank you, Rick Brunson.
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10/27/2008  8:23 PM
I know I am thinking about this with my heart....but Patrick Ewing was why I became a Knicks fan...to me having his son on the team would have been fantastic. I appreciate the situation that the Knicks are in, however, this really bothers me. I hope PE Jr gets a shot with someone (well, actually I hope he signs on in the D League and the Knicks get him later).
Oh well, no real point here....I guess I just got my hopes up that it might be fun to be a Knicks fan again...

and heck, we all know, if they start 3-0 we will have all moved on from this...
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10/27/2008  8:35 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by 4949:
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by djsunyc:

pros and cons

walsh probably felt having expirings like malik or jerome (next year) is more beneficial than keeping a raw player like ewing and trying to develop him. they probably knew it from the get go so i'm not sure why he was even brought here...

[Edited by - djsunyc on 10-27-2008 2:27 PM]

If you trade Jerome and/or Malik Rose, kiss the 2010 goodbye.

Why is that?

Why? Because their contracts expire in 2010. Unless someone is trading you an expiring for an expiring, then you will take back longer salary in the end. And what team will trade their own expiring contract for Jerome James? I am willing to bet that every player with an expiring contract out there is better than Jerome James and Malik Rose. Nobody is taking those guys unless they give you back longer contracts and taking on a longer contract means that unless you trade Crawford, Curry, AND Randolph for expirings then you can kiss the 2010 dream goodbye.

Well yes' who would' take an expiring for an expiring? That's just goofy. And I'm not sure were your getting that at? But If' I understand what you are saying up above, then I think trading Curry and Zach should be first priority, because they are even longer contracts and if we can trade them a two for one each, then we do two things. We are able to fill four spots with a two for four players, because Marbury and Malik are walking after this season and we will have divided the contracts, making it easier to make deals the following year.

And I have no doubt, if we are gonna go for the gold after 2010, then there is gonna have' to be a buyout or two to make it happen.

And someone else said that even if we do' get rid of these bad contracts thought buyouts, it still counts against the cap. I still don't understand what they meant by that. If somehow that is true and we still can't make any major deals, then what are we all talking about? The entire mess, ALL OF IT, points all the way back to Isiah! Plain and simple.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/27/2008  8:40 PM
Posted by Redcru:

I know I am thinking about this with my heart....but Patrick Ewing was why I became a Knicks fan...to me having his son on the team would have been fantastic. I appreciate the situation that the Knicks are in, however, this really bothers me. I hope PE Jr gets a shot with someone (well, actually I hope he signs on in the D League and the Knicks get him later).
Oh well, no real point here....I guess I just got my hopes up that it might be fun to be a Knicks fan again...

and heck, we all know, if they start 3-0 we will have all moved on from this...

I didn't really have a favorite when I started seriously following them. And then about three years later, Benard King came along.
I'll never trust this' team again.
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10/27/2008  9:03 PM
This seems to be Nichols Part 2.

While I wanted the Knicks to keep Ewing Jr., it was obvious that management would keep the guys with the most money around. Even Robertson had more money than Ewing, so there is your decision.

I won't cry because of this, as this will be forgotten in two weeks, but I hope Walsh can do some serious business soon, because there has been more talk than action. The only thing we can be optimistic about is the new coach, and that will run out once the season starts and we get back under .500.
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Redcru
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10/27/2008  9:22 PM
King was right on the cusp for me..Ewing really got me into hoop....I still remember the night Georgetown lost to Villanova...I was in 8th grade and I thought the world was ending...


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10/27/2008  9:39 PM
IF mide is an offensive coach, when it all come down to it, why would he go with PE .

Maybe you forgot (so soon) the horrific shooting that has occured in some of the preseason games like going 1-21 from DT or 4-36 from DT. Rob is a dead eye shooter when open. PE even though I was hoping they kept him ,I fully understand why the didn't
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10/27/2008  9:45 PM
Posted by knicks1248:

IF mide is an offensive coach, when it all come down to it, why would he go with PE .

Maybe you forgot (so soon) the horrific shooting that has occured in some of the preseason games like going 1-21 from DT or 4-36 from DT. Rob is a dead eye shooter when open. PE even though I was hoping they kept him ,I fully understand why the didn't

roberson's legacy will go down with ex-knick greats such as anthony bowie, greg grant and corey gaines...
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