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What happened to Lee and Randolph?
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oohah
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10/27/2008  7:14 PM
Posted by TMS:


i'm just asking cuz i never watched that many Phoenix games, but how exactly was Barbosa used in D'Antoni's system? i always thought that was the role Jamal was meant to fill in this offense, a guy who can create some shots for others, run the floor & hit the open J... was Barbosa a penetrating into the lane scoring G like Marbury or AI who drew contact & got to the FT line?

Barbosa, has a little better per minute averages, shoots a higher percentage, goes to the hole, and plays better defense.

He doesn't have a slick handle and doesn't get as many highlight plays. Barbosa can catch and shoot, he doesn't need to dribble.

Jamal Crawford is a better ankle-breaker. Barbosa has done his work as the number 5 option on the team.

oohah

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10/27/2008  7:31 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by BlueSeats:

If Jamal will continue to fear the paint we might as well make him what Q was in Phoenix. Q shot a similar %, if I remember correctly. Just park Jamal behind the arch and don't feature him, just use him as an escape valve. If he's having one of his off nights (or weeks as he goes) then sit him and substitute Q in the role.

While Nate actually is our best 3pt shooter it would be a waste of his penetration skills leaving him outside. Ditto for Gallo, if/when he's healthy.

But while I think this is a sensible proposal to get something useful out of Jamal, if Q were healthy (questionable) I'd still prefer him in the role because there you have a chance of some defense or rebounds on those off nights and weeks.

Thus, Jamal's best use probably is off the bench as a guy you send in to make something happen. But then again, Nate does it better.

Who knows though, we'll probably be seeing a lot of 4 guard alignments, so they can all run around trying to make something happen.

i'm just asking cuz i never watched that many Phoenix games, but how exactly was Barbosa used in D'Antoni's system? i always thought that was the role Jamal was meant to fill in this offense, a guy who can create some shots for others, run the floor & hit the open J... was Barbosa a penetrating into the lane scoring G like Marbury or AI who drew contact & got to the FT line?


Barbosa was used the way we use Nate, for speed, penetration and the occasional jumper, to back up the one or two.
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10/27/2008  8:33 PM
Posted by Anji:
Posted by oohah:
Posted by Anji:




Jamal Crawford is a good player. Not great or bad. Number 3 man on a team if you were to build one is what he is.

I don't think too many knicks will be here in the future outside of 2 or 3, but if Jamal plays great for Mike D I don't see why he will be gone unless it's for a player like Joe Johnson or Wade. If he plays great, there is no reason to move because he is an asset to the team no doubt. He's gone head to head with the superstars in the game and he has won his fair share of battles. I think if he matched up every night against other teams 2nd or 3rd best players he would dominate that match up.


I think you are overrating him. No, Crawford is not a bad player per se, but he isn't a player that makes a winner. He can add to a winning team. But I don't see him as a #3 player on a good team. Look at the pretty good teams around the league: Lakers, Utah, San Antonio, New Orleans, Portland, Houston, Boston, Detroit, etc. and on all of those teams the #3 player is much better than Crawford and on most of them the #4 player is visibly better too.

I think Crawford is bench fireworks. On the nights he is a dud you can just let him sit.

oohah
I think we can agree to disagree.

I think JC is as good as a couple of those teams number 3 players and he scores well enough to be a starter.
Crawford as a #3 man??? He's never even received one 6th man of the year vote even though he's played a lot of seasons as a bench player. He's a below average 6th man or an above average 7th man IMO.


[Edited by - bonn1997 on 10-28-2008 07:02 AM]
What happened to Lee and Randolph?

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