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Colin Powell endorses Obama
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Bonn1997
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10/20/2008  9:58 PM
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izybx
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10/21/2008  1:37 AM
Lol. Nice to see that MS has stepped into the role of "the one guy who dares to knock Obama". I got tired of being the only guy versus the entire rest of the forum. Dont even waste your breath kid, all your hear is different variations of

1. you dont know the facts
2. you are uninformed
3. your values are misguided
4. youre a ****ing idiot
5. you have no views of your own, but are simply repeating what you heard on Fox News, Hannity, Oreilly, etc.

Of course, everybody else on this site besides you will be

1.Educated and with full knowledge of the facts
2.Informed
3.have a value set that is beyond reproach
4.Not repeating what they have saw on TV or read on a Blog, in fact they were simply born knowing more than you, a lowly brainwashed fool who caqn only repeat what you saw on TV.

Dont even waste your breath, debating politics with the people here is a complete waste of your time and effort.

But kudos for trying kid!
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10/21/2008  1:41 AM
Posted by izybx:

Lol. Nice to see that MS has stepped into the role of "the one guy who dares to knock Obama". I got tired of being the only guy versus the entire rest of the forum. Dont even waste your breath kid, all your hear is different variations of

1. you dont know the facts
2. you are uninformed
3. your values are misguided
4. youre a ****ing idiot
5. you have no views of your own, but are simply repeating what you heard on Fox News, Hannity, Oreilly, etc.

Of course, everybody else on this site besides you will be

1.Educated and with full knowledge of the facts
2.Informed
3.have a value set that is beyond reproach
4.Not repeating what they have saw on TV or read on a Blog, in fact they were simply born knowing more than you, a lowly brainwashed fool who caqn only repeat what you saw on TV.

Dont even waste your breath, debating politics with the people here is a complete waste of your time and effort.

But kudos for trying kid!

Speaking of waste of time, this post reeks of it.
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Knicksfansince94
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10/21/2008  2:46 AM
everything else gets moved, but oh, not this! not precious obama and colin powell. this is bs, total hypocrisy.
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Bonn1997
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10/21/2008  6:57 AM
Posted by izybx:

Lol. Nice to see that MS has stepped into the role of "the one guy who dares to knock Obama". I got tired of being the only guy versus the entire rest of the forum. Dont even waste your breath kid, all your hear is different variations of

1. you dont know the facts
2. you are uninformed
3. your values are misguided
4. youre a ****ing idiot
5. you have no views of your own, but are simply repeating what you heard on Fox News, Hannity, Oreilly, etc.

Of course, everybody else on this site besides you will be

1.Educated and with full knowledge of the facts
2.Informed
3.have a value set that is beyond reproach
4.Not repeating what they have saw on TV or read on a Blog, in fact they were simply born knowing more than you, a lowly brainwashed fool who caqn only repeat what you saw on TV.

Dont even waste your breath, debating politics with the people here is a complete waste of your time and effort.

But kudos for trying kid!
He won't post sources for any info. Why should we take his claims seriously? I don't take claims of liberals seriously either if they say things I haven't heard of and won't back them up.
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10/21/2008  8:00 AM
republican does not = bad

I think McCain would have been an excellent president 8 years ago. I think Powell would have remained as SOS. I think that type of regime would have done better with diplomacy in Iraq, been better organized to deal with Afgan/Taliban/AlQaeda conficts.

Now I think McCain is desperate to become president but his time is just passed. The Palin pick is a disaster which was designed to appease the conservative memebers of his party. However its hurt him on the other side and thats what the Powell endorsment is all about. The moderate republicans do not like her. She is a religious zealot. She is totally uncultured on a global level. She will be 2nd in command to a 74 year old who's body has seen a lot of milage and her very narrow views of the world will most certainly shape policy.

As for Powell... Certainly race is a factor, but what this is really about is how Powell was treated under the Bush administration and his (like other moderate repubs) dislike of Palin.

I think Obama has his own set of issues. Biden is a Washington whore. Obama is going to tax and spend. Thats what dems do. If you do it right like Clinton did the country will be in good shape. Clinton left the white house with a budget surplus and a booming economy which he helped fuel. In 8 years Bush has put us in remarkably even worse shape than post Reagan. Obama is going to have real challenges and I have my doubts about his (or anyone's) ability to remedy this mess anytime soon. However he will appoint liberal Supreme court justices which to me is as important an aspect of this election as anything
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10/21/2008  8:24 AM
garbage. bush and clinton did nothing for the economy, good or bad. what we're going through right now is the result of a natural cycle of ups and downs. this is a trimming up of the excess fat in our economy. and still, I don't understand why this doesn't get moved. if this was a post supporting McCain, it would be in OT in a second; but because it's obama and because it's colin powell and they're both black, this is deemed 'too important' to move. gimme a break.
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10/21/2008  8:39 AM
Posted by Knicksfansince94:

garbage. bush and clinton did nothing for the economy, good or bad. what we're going through right now is the result of a natural cycle of ups and downs. this is a trimming up of the excess fat in our economy. and still, I don't understand why this doesn't get moved. if this was a post supporting McCain, it would be in OT in a second; but because it's obama and because it's colin powell and they're both black, this is deemed 'too important' to move. gimme a break.
my bad... I thought a trillion dollar war would impact the economy, glad you have clarified that.

Economic growth and slowdown will happen regardless of policy and politics. However policy absolutely impacts how much slowdown and how much growth that happens during those periods.
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10/21/2008  8:41 AM
Posted by Knicksfansince94:

garbage. bush and clinton did nothing for the economy, good or bad. what we're going through right now is the result of a natural cycle of ups and downs. this is a trimming up of the excess fat in our economy. and still, I don't understand why this doesn't get moved. if this was a post supporting McCain, it would be in OT in a second; but because it's obama and because it's colin powell and they're both black, this is deemed 'too important' to move. gimme a break.


Dude, what are you talking about. The posts about the debates and the presidential election have been on the NY Knicks Forum for weeks. It has nothing to do with Obama, it has to do with this issue being so important that it warrants discussion here. If you want to talk about McCain, talk about him.
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10/21/2008  8:45 AM
To suggest that Powell endorsed Obama as a way to get back at the republicans is offbase. If that were the case, he could have endorsed him weeks ago. I think Powell honestly did not like (1) the way McCain was running his negative campaign; (2) the fact that Palin is not ready to be president; (3) the fact that we need a president with a more open-mind and world view to repair the foriegn relations damage Bush has caused; and (4) Obama is a calmer and more thoughtful leader than McCain who has a deserved reputation as a hothead.
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10/21/2008  8:49 AM
Posted by Knicksfansince94:

garbage. bush and clinton did nothing for the economy, good or bad. what we're going through right now is the result of a natural cycle of ups and downs. this is a trimming up of the excess fat in our economy. and still, I don't understand why this doesn't get moved. if this was a post supporting McCain, it would be in OT in a second; but because it's obama and because it's colin powell and they're both black, this is deemed 'too important' to move. gimme a break.

The policies of the president have a large impact on the economy. The policies the President implements regarding foreign trade, taxes, subsidies, government regulations, and interest rates to name a few can all significantly impact the economy. That is why picking the right president is so important.

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10/21/2008  9:03 AM
they can impact it but they can't significantly alter their course. there's only so much a president can do. it's a wild world, capitalism is, with many complex pieces at play.

it's unreasonable to assume that any changes or actions the president takes have immediate effect.

[Edited by - Knicksfansince94 on 10-21-2008 09:05 AM]
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10/21/2008  9:23 AM
Posted by Knicksfansince94:

everything else gets moved, but oh, not this! not precious obama and colin powell. this is bs, total hypocrisy.

Perhaps you don't understand and perhaps I did not make it clear enough before. Every 4 years our country has an election that effects us all and is very much an important topic. There are other threads that will pop in and out of the main Knicks forum or will stay here for various amounts of time depending on their own momentum, relevance, newsworthiness, etc.

You haven't been around this site or these forums to make such a judgement as you have and are waaaayyyy off on it. You have a problem with our forums and the threads that stay here, please leave us an email or ask the larger group why it is here and reason it out with us. Otherwise keep this kind of post to yourself cause mostly it's crap.
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10/21/2008  9:46 AM
i do have a huge problem with this. i am leaving this forum. it's nothing but hypocrisy, and a lousy, dishonest way to run a public forum. take it easy.
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10/21/2008  9:50 AM
Posted by Knicksfansince94:

i do have a huge problem with this. i am leaving this forum. it's nothing but hypocrisy, and a lousy, dishonest way to run a public forum. take it easy.

Andrew and I are pretty transparent here. Later.
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10/21/2008  9:51 AM
Posted by izybx:


5. you have no views of your own, but are simply repeating what you heard on Fox News, Hannity, Oreilly, etc.


ACtually, Oreilly likes Obama. I've heard him defend him on more than one occasion, you can tell hes doing his job at times but in his heart he believes Obama is much better than Mccain. Which most Americans do... Even the Racist ones know its true deep down (awaits onslaught) lol
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10/21/2008  10:08 AM
Posted by izybx:

Lol. Nice to see that MS has stepped into the role of "the one guy who dares to knock Obama". I got tired of being the only guy versus the entire rest of the forum. Dont even waste your breath kid, all your hear is different variations of

1. you dont know the facts
2. you are uninformed
3. your values are misguided

4. youre a ****ing idiot
5. you have no views of your own, but are simply repeating what you heard on Fox News, Hannity, Oreilly, etc.

Of course, everybody else on this site besides you will be

1.Educated and with full knowledge of the facts
2.Informed
3.have a value set that is beyond reproach
4.Not repeating what they have saw on TV or read on a Blog, in fact they were simply born knowing more than you, a lowly brainwashed fool who caqn only repeat what you saw on TV.

Dont even waste your breath, debating politics with the people here is a complete waste of your time and effort.

But kudos for trying kid!

It's funny that you say that, b/c last I saw, John McCain said those very same things to Obama at the last debates, MANY times. McCain supporters being the pot calling the kettle black?
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10/21/2008  10:17 AM
One man, one vote

Powell is voting for Obama because as an international diplomat, Pwell recognizes one simple, undeniable fact that drives bigots like Limbaugh and Hannity crazy.

Powell and Obama both excelled in their formal training. Obama at Harvard and Powell at Howard University. They are both members of an educated elite that the mediocre love to diss. "hey I can't have a beer with that guy, I'd rather have a beer with George Bush because he's one of US".

But that's cool.

Royalty recognizes royalty - ergo the reason world leaders and the international community welcome Obama with open arms.

The reason Obama has Powell's single vote is undeniable:

Barack Obama is more intelligent than John McCain

The concise phrase Powell used on Meet The Press to describe what Obama brings to the table was, "intellectual dignity".

Perfect.

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10/21/2008  11:50 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by Knicksfansince94:

everything else gets moved, but oh, not this! not precious obama and colin powell. this is bs, total hypocrisy.

Perhaps you don't understand and perhaps I did not make it clear enough before. Every 4 years our country has an election that effects us all and is very much an important topic. There are other threads that will pop in and out of the main Knicks forum or will stay here for various amounts of time depending on their own momentum, relevance, newsworthiness, etc.

You haven't been around this site or these forums to make such a judgement as you have and are waaaayyyy off on it. You have a problem with our forums and the threads that stay here, please leave us an email or ask the larger group why it is here and reason it out with us. Otherwise keep this kind of post to yourself cause mostly it's crap.

WTF? The guy's been here for 2 weeks and he's already complaining about how the forum is run. It sounds more like a bitter poster who got banned and came back with a new screen name.
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10/21/2008  11:55 AM
Well, you know it's not playa, b/c he is for Obama.
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Colin Powell endorses Obama

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