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9/1/2008  7:38 PM
Posted by LongIslandKnicksFan:
Posted by BigC:
Posted by LongIslandKnicksFan:

THE OBAMA NATION Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality

Barack Obama stepped onto the national political stage when the then-Illinois State senator addressed the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Soon after Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, author Jerome Corsi began researching Obama's personal and political background.

Scrupulously sourced with more than 600 footnotes, THE OBAMA NATION is the result of that research. By tracing Obama's career and influences from his early years in Hawaii and Indonesia, the beginnings of his political career in Chicago, his voting record in the Illinois legislature, his religious training and his adoption of Christianity through to his recent involvement in Kenyan politics, his political advisors and fundraising associates and his meteoric campaign for president, Jerome Corsi shows that an Obama presidency would, in his words, be “a repeat of the failed extremist politics that have characterized and plagued Democratic Party politics since the late 1960s.”

In this stunning and comprehensive new book, the reader will learn about: -Obama's extensive connections with Islam and radical politics, from his father and step-father's Islamic backgrounds, to his Communist and socialist mentors in Hawaii and Chicago, to his long-term and close associations with former Weather Underground heroes William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn—associations much closer than heretofore revealed by the press
-Barack and Michelle's 20-year-long religious affiliation with the black-liberation theology of former Trinity United Church of Christ Reverend Jeremiah Wright, whose sermons have always been steeped in a rage first expressed by Franz Fanon , Stokely Carmichael and Malcolm X, a rage that Corsi shows has deep meaning for Obama
-Obama's continuing connections with Kenya, the homeland of his father, through his support for the candidacy of Raila Odinga, the radical socialist presidential contender who came to power amid Islamist violence and church burnings
-Obama's involvement in the slum-landlord empire of the Chicago political fixer Tony Rezko, who helped to bankroll Obama's initial campaigns and to purchase of Barack and Michelle's dream-home property.
-the background and techniques of the Obama campaign's cult of personality, including the derivation of the words “hope” and change”
-Obama's far-left domestic policy, his controversial votes on abortion, his history of opposition to the Second Amendment, his determination to raise capital-gains taxes, his impractical plan to achieve universal health care, and his radical plan to tax Americans to fund a global-poverty-reduction program
-Obama's naïve, anti-war, anti-nuclear foreign-policy, predicated on the reduction of the military, the eradication of nuclear weapons and an overconfidence in the power of his personality, as if belief in change alone could somehow transform international politics, achieve nuclear-weapons disarmament and withdrawal from Iraq without adverse consequences, for us, for the Iraqis or for Israel.

Meticulously researched and documented, THE OBAMA NATION is the definitive source for information on why and how Barack Obama must be defeated—not by invective and general attacks, but by detailed arguments that are well-researched and fact-based.

Why he must be defeated?
So you think Obama is a super villain?

Also if it does not matter if it is McCain or Obama where are your footnotes on McCain?
You do realize that not one person is in control of what happens in the U.S or the world right?

[Edited by - BigC on 08-24-2008 1:47 PM]

I reposted that from the Amazon.com information on the book, so those are not my own words. I'm just putting the information out there. All we hear is "change" for the better, "change" for this, "change" for that. How do we know to believe these liars?

You're right, not one person is in control of the world, so why should we put our faces in other peoples businesses? Are we the policemen of the world? Am I the only one that wants to see peace and good people in this country? Am I the only one that wants to see a change in the society since we are American's do NOT question these corrupt politicians? Am I the only sane person who wants everyone to love one another in a community that is away from all the killers? Am I the only person who wants to get away from these morons who go drinking last night, get drunk and use their car as a weapon since they're stupid not to handle their own alcohol level?

I agree about the policing part, but I think we should be involved, if we are to be a part of the league of nations and not some kind of dictatorship that bush and his crony's tried to create.
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9/1/2008  7:41 PM
Posted by arkrud:

Tactically the best scenario for American people is government which can do nothing.
With Congress shaping more and more Democratic we need Republican President.
If this is moronic guy like McCain so let's be it.
The best government is paralized government.

Very interesting concept. Paralyzed government. Hmmm.
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9/1/2008  7:51 PM
Posted by LongIslandKnicksFan:
Posted by Bonn1997:
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Posted by Bonn1997:

Do you feel (Long island) that there was any difference in the country (or the world actually) under President Clinton's vs. Bush's leadership?

No, I believe that there is an agenda to be carried out each year and the government puts in whoever best fits a good speaker or someone who they know they can control.
So Bill would have carried out this Iraq War (and without any planning) and would have had these huge tax cuts for the rich had he been allowed to serve a third term?

Bill and Hillary are crooks! They are now and have always been crooks. Research more into them and their dirty tactics. Not good people. Liars. Watch on YouTube "The Video Hillary Clinton Doesn't Want You To See" and you'll see why they are crooks and it's backed up with video and audio evidence and facts!

Do you mean how the 'Obama Nation' book is packed with evidence and facts? After reading more and more of your stuff, I'm starting to wonder what you were getting at?
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9/1/2008  8:00 PM
Posted by Nalod:

Bitty,

Bill was not running?

Reaganomics moved things forward. At a price.

He put the petal to the metal and stared down the soviet war machine more than once and found them empty. Thats what bought it down when he said it.

Im not gonna argue electing a scumbag for president, my point was more that we tend to elect whom we like or falls within our values (the jesus states in particular) rather than whom we think is most effective. Other countries don't care about whom its leader gets blown on the side, or steals a few mil here or there.

Last time I looked we have an idiot bafoon in the white house cuz he was more personable than Al Gore (Gore won, but W's "Folks speak" got him close enough to steal it).

This is an exercise of thought not to defend Reagans admin.

Yeah, he bashed down the unions which proved to be inflationary and wasteful. Sure it protected workers rights but it lost too many jobs to begin with. Yeah he b!tch slapped the air traffic controllers, sold blow to pay for things, and had George Herbert as his VP. Also he let the right wing religious zelots in the front door and they have not left.

Find a flawless presidency.

Pure democracy is an illusion for the middle class.

Who the hell can argue with this?
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9/1/2008  8:11 PM
Posted by playa2:

march into the White House and tell Bush, Cheney et al that it's over and hand them over to the US marshals to be, as former Ambassador Joe Wilson put it, "frog-marched" to the nearest jail cell to await trial for their crimes.

One problem with that. This isn't Nazi Germany were the war ends and we have a trial and then hang them and dump the ashes into the river.

I'd rather take my chances on holding onto most of the laws and Constitution, the things that are holding everything together, then to start doing things like that. If they aren't being abided by now, then we save and abide by them until an administration is in place to carry them out. And maybe that's just a little too patriotic for some stomach's here to take. But what else can we do? Use 'outlaws'? No way.
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9/1/2008  8:12 PM
Posted by BigC:
Posted by playa2:

And don't count on the Republicans being defeated on Nov. 7, with your vote or the fixing of the vote. Despot Bush's Rasputin, Karl Rove, may pull an October Surprise. Another 9-11, anyone?

Finally, if Despot Bush & Co. are allowed to remain in office, what makes you think they will leave on Jan. 20, 2009?

We the people have the power to do what the Declaration tells us we must do, if only we would exercise it. We don't have to resort to armed rebellion, either. We can bring the country to a halt with national strikes. A few of those and the leaders of Congress, be they Democrats or Republicans, will get the message, march into the White House and tell Bush, Cheney et al that it's over and hand them over to the US marshals to be, as former Ambassador Joe Wilson put it, "frog-marched" to the nearest jail cell to await trial for their crimes.

I don't think Obama will lose. Do you know the stock market goes up the next day if Obama becomes president?

Don't take anything for granted.
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9/1/2008  8:15 PM
Posted by BigC:
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by BigC:
Posted by playa2:

And don't count on the Republicans being defeated on Nov. 7, with your vote or the fixing of the vote. Despot Bush's Rasputin, Karl Rove, may pull an October Surprise. Another 9-11, anyone?

Finally, if Despot Bush & Co. are allowed to remain in office, what makes you think they will leave on Jan. 20, 2009?

We the people have the power to do what the Declaration tells us we must do, if only we would exercise it. We don't have to resort to armed rebellion, either. We can bring the country to a halt with national strikes. A few of those and the leaders of Congress, be they Democrats or Republicans, will get the message, march into the White House and tell Bush, Cheney et al that it's over and hand them over to the US marshals to be, as former Ambassador Joe Wilson put it, "frog-marched" to the nearest jail cell to await trial for their crimes.

I don't think Obama will lose. Do you know the stock market goes up the next day if Obama becomes president?
Why is that or why do you say that?
Bonn1997 answered part of it for me.

If Obama wins Americans and people in the world will feel that good things will happen in the future. If he is nominated the very next day after his announcement you can expect the stock market to shoot up. So this will have an effect on investment because people feel the economy will get better with Obama. New hope. Because of that hope of "change" investment and everything else will jump up. Stocks are based on people hoping things will get good or better. Because it is Obama and not someone else or a republican there will be an increase in the stock market. If Obama wins you will see exactly what I am talking about. Oh and buy some stock.... lol Obama does not have to do anything because stocks are base high expectations of people

[Edited by - BigC on 08-30-2008 02:50 AM]

I'm not too sure about that. I certainly wouldn't buy stock based on that assumption. More proof C.
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