Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by franco12:

Posted by martin:

Posted by franco12:

what future moves does the Balkman trade enable us to make down the line?

A 2010 second rounder?

I bet teams are lining up to call Donnie to try to get that asset from us.

What would Balk do on this team with Q, JJSkinny, Chandler, Gallo? Nada.

Give us a legit lock down perimeter defender off the bench?

And this notion that Chandler has emerged - I am all for giving him minutes, but still - its not like there are a ton of good or even decent perimeter defenders on this team.

And we don't even know if Gallo is going to be able to play - he barely made it through a half of summer league play.

I'm not trying to over react or anything- I hope he works out well.

I just know that Balkman was our best defender on Yao & LeBron- that's versatility. And unlike JJSkinny, he rarely disappeared on the court and could have an impact in spot duty for 10 mins here and there.

My bet is that D'antoni not only feels that Chandler can play defensively but he can do other things which of course makes Balkman expendable. Throw in the fact that defensively there is no real drop off or a difference between Balkman and JJ.

You guys are just crazy. Maybe this trade was just a dumb trade for absolutely no reason at all. Maybe it's part of a series of moves in a process to revamp this team. Only time will tell. One thing I do know is it's pretty pathetic that any NY fan would be up in arms over a Renaldo Balkman trade.

Does anyone realize we won 23 games last year with the guys on this roster?

[Edited by - bippity10 on 29-07-2008 1:59 PM]

Posted by Vmart:

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/53794/20080729/marbury_move_not_for_two_months/

It seems that the Knicks want to trade marbury rather than eat his contract. Marbury move is a couple of months away according to the article.

The club also is expected to release incumbent point guard Stephon Marbury. A Knicks source says that any transaction involving Marbury won't take place until late September or early October.

Posted by franco12:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by franco12:

Posted by martin:

Posted by franco12:

what future moves does the Balkman trade enable us to make down the line?

A 2010 second rounder?

I bet teams are lining up to call Donnie to try to get that asset from us.

What would Balk do on this team with Q, JJSkinny, Chandler, Gallo? Nada.

Give us a legit lock down perimeter defender off the bench?

And this notion that Chandler has emerged - I am all for giving him minutes, but still - its not like there are a ton of good or even decent perimeter defenders on this team.

And we don't even know if Gallo is going to be able to play - he barely made it through a half of summer league play.

I'm not trying to over react or anything- I hope he works out well.

I just know that Balkman was our best defender on Yao & LeBron- that's versatility. And unlike JJSkinny, he rarely disappeared on the court and could have an impact in spot duty for 10 mins here and there.

My bet is that D'antoni not only feels that Chandler can play defensively but he can do other things which of course makes Balkman expendable. Throw in the fact that defensively there is no real drop off or a difference between Balkman and JJ.

You guys are just crazy. Maybe this trade was just a dumb trade for absolutely no reason at all. Maybe it's part of a series of moves in a process to revamp this team. Only time will tell. One thing I do know is it's pretty pathetic that any NY fan would be up in arms over a Renaldo Balkman trade.

Does anyone realize we won 23 games last year with the guys on this roster?

[Edited by - bippity10 on 29-07-2008 1:59 PM]

And Balkman was the biggest problem. I'm glad we got rid of him.

I just don't see how this is the first in a series of trades.

Cutting Marbury, Malik, Collins & JJ1 gives you roster spaces instead of unusable players.

This is like picking out new curtains while your house is on fire - just seems like a stupid move when there are bigger issues at hand.


I know Zach is impossible to move, but I would think a package of Zach & Balkman has more potential value to a team than just Zach. And I might be wrong, but I would think a team would rather have Balkman in a deal than a 2010 2nd rounder.

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Bippity10:
One thing I do know is it's pretty pathetic that any NY fan would be up in arms over a Renaldo Balkman trade.

being up in arms about a move is when i was going ape**** when they signed Turd James & made the Zach Randolph trade... i'm just questioning the logic behind this Balkman trade, nothing more.

Those I could understand. Both trades lessened our flexibility. This one arguably gives us more flexibility by opening up roster spots. The Turd and Zach signings were final moves to build on top of the then current horrendous roster. This move appears to be made to gain flexibility. Only time will tell.

Bip, you need more of these low-nutrition posts if you expect to get to 10k. At your current rate, it will take you 411 days.

Whereas TMS will likely hit 20k in 167 days.



[Edited by - basketballjones on 07-29-2008 16:03]

Posted by Bippity10:

I want to take this time to welcome myself to the 8000 post club

Posted by nixluva:

We all know that this team will need a major overhaul to be the type of team that Mike D wants. We will have to live with moves like this as we clear out a roster that is full of mismatched pieces. The real problem is the big contracts that will be hard to move. Still that doesn't mean that you just sit on lesser players who also don't fit into your plans.

I liked Balkman and had hopes that he would develop his shot, but I can't blame Mike for wanting to move on now that he's satisfied with Chan and Gallo going forward. We'll see how he feels about Q and Jared and anyone else we have for that matter. It's gonna be a long process and this is just the start.