Posted by Andrew:

Alan Hahn on the Euro scout comment:

As for Starberman and the Italian scout saying Gallo was always getting hurt....not quite how I heard it. What I was told is Danilo isn't soft, but maybe too bull-headed. Kid takes a beating and keeps on coming (as we saw when he kept going at the rim against the Cavs and redwood-thick Tractor Traylor). Problem is, that can result in being worn down. Let's remember he's 19, not 25. Not yet a man in either the physical or mental POV.

Posted by Andrew:

Wait...Mardy isn't already 30?

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by playa2:

Sounds like excuses for a good kid, ok I'll accept that. (do I have a choice?)

You really don't. You have to do what we all have to do. Wait and see. I am going to give the kid the same patience I've given mardy and Wilson and Balkman and Nate. Their young and have long careers ahead of them. What happens at 19 sometimes happens at 25 and 30. Sometimes it doesn't.

Posted by fishmike:

Posted by playa2:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by playa2:

Sounds like excuses for a good kid, ok I'll accept that. (do I have a choice?)

You really don't. You have to do what we all have to do. Wait and see. I am going to give the kid the same patience I've given mardy and Wilson and Balkman and Nate. Their young and have long careers ahead of them. What happens at 19 sometimes happens at 25 and 30. Sometimes it doesn't.

Wait a minute bip, how do you compare mardy, balkman and chandler in the same breath as "THE GALL".

mardy was picked in the low 20's and balkman in the high 20's, GALL was picked #6 overall.


I expect a #6 overall pick by the knicks to be able to be an impact this season nothing less.

This team as is didn't win that many games the last two years and we haven't picked this high in the draft since 1986 kenny (sky) walker at #5.

He didn't make a lasting impact if you remember.

"The Gall" at #6 overall is gonna make you think different?

Why???
How many recent picks after #6 had an immediate impact their rookie year?
2007
Yi Jianlian 7-0 242 PF China 1984
Corey Brewer 6-8 185 SF Florida Jr.
Brandan Wright 6-10 200 PF UNC Fr.
Joakim Noah 6-11 230 PF Florida Jr.
Spencer Hawes 7-0 244 C Wash. Fr.
Acie Law 6-3 186 PG Texas A&M Sr.
Thaddeus Young 6-7 210 SF GT Fr.
Julian Wright 6-8 211 SF Kansas So.
Al Thornton 6-7 221 SF/PF Florida St. Sr.
Rodney Stuckey 6-5 207 SG E. Wash. So.
Nick Young 6-6 206 SG USC Jr.
2006
Brandon Roy 6-6 207 SG Washington Sr.
Randy Foye 6-3 212 PG Villanova Sr.
Rudy Gay 6-8 222 SF UConn So.
Patrick O'Bryant 7-0 249 C Bradley So.
Saer Sene 7-0 237 C Sen. 1986
JJ Redick 6-5 190 SG Duke Sr.
Hilton Armstrong 6-11 240 C UConn Sr.
Thabo Sefolosha 6-6 213 SG Switz. 1984
Ronnie Brewer 6-7 223 SG Arkansas Jr.
Cedric Simmons 6-9 223 PF NCSt. So.
2005
Martell Webster 6-7 230 SG/SF WA HSSr.
Charlie Villanueva 6-10 237 PF Conn So.
Channing Frye 6-11 244 C Arizona Sr.
Ike Diogu 6-8 255 PF Arizona St. Jr.
Andrew Bynum 7-0 280 C UConn HSSr.
Fran Vazquez 6-10 230 PF Spain 1983
Yaroslav Korolev 6-9 220 SF Rus. 1987
Sean May 6-8 260 PF North Carolina Jr.
Rashad McCants 6-4 201 SG UNC Jr.
Antoine Wright 6-6 203 SG Tex. A&M Jr.

We are talking about the NY Knicks not the rest of the league.

Isiah hasn't had the chance to pick this high before in the draft an many think that walsh and Dantoni will do much better than him.

We haven't had a pick this high since Patrick Ewing and Kenny walker in 1985- 1986.

We haven't been in this territory in a long time and need to make the best of this situation picking so high in the draft.

Maybe the scouts for the knicks over the last 24-25 yrs has been mediocore at best.


Fishmike there's always a player who the concensus believes to be a " NBA ready made player in the draft", our scouts just seem to avoid them.

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by playa2:

Posted by Bippity10:

Summer league is pointless. If he is hurt and he is your future there is no need to play him. The media is turning Summer League into this all important, essential being, when in reality it really isnt' that important.

The toughness factor bip wasn't brought up in you're disecting of "the gall" and his weaknesses.

Euro's aren't know to be physical players in the NBA , so will "the gall" be potentially injury prone once he laces them up against NBA STUDS?

One drive to the basket and percaussionary measures are needed. WOW

None of us have any idea the extent of the injury or the risk or further injury. Because of this lack of knowledge I choose not to pass judgement on his toughness or lack thereof. You choose otherwise based on no information.

If management decides that he can risk further injury and holds him out then I give them the benefit of the doubt. That's just what I do. I prefer not to have my 1st round pick suffer an injury that nags him year long just so you and I can watch him in a league that has been meaningless for decades.

Posted by martin:

Posted by playa2:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by playa2:

Posted by Bippity10:

Summer league is pointless. If he is hurt and he is your future there is no need to play him. The media is turning Summer League into this all important, essential being, when in reality it really isnt' that important.

The toughness factor bip wasn't brought up in you're disecting of "the gall" and his weaknesses.

Euro's aren't know to be physical players in the NBA , so will "the gall" be potentially injury prone once he laces them up against NBA STUDS?

One drive to the basket and percaussionary measures are needed. WOW

None of us have any idea the extent of the injury or the risk or further injury. Because of this lack of knowledge I choose not to pass judgement on his toughness or lack thereof. You choose otherwise based on no information.

If management decides that he can risk further injury and holds him out then I give them the benefit of the doubt. That's just what I do. I prefer not to have my 1st round pick suffer an injury that nags him year long just so you and I can watch him in a league that has been meaningless for decades.

KNICKS HAVE GALLINARI DOUBTS
By MARC BERMAN
Last updated: 7:09 am
July 21, 2008
Posted: 4:05 am
July 21, 2008

The Knicks ended the Las Vegas summer-league yesterday the way they came in - unsure if 19-year-old rookie Danilo Gallinari will contribute this season.

After suffering a back injury in Monday's opener against Cleveland, the Italian Stallion missed the final four games, including yesterday's 111-91 loss to Minnesota in the finale at UNLV's Cox Pavilion to finish 2-3.

A team source said the Knicks are considering resting Gallinari the remainder of the summer and request he not play for the Italian national team that gets together in two weeks. The decision could be out of Gallinari's hands as the Italian players are threatening a strike.

In his lone game, Gallinari had an impressive seven minutes in the second half when he scored 14 points after going scoreless in the first 2½ quarters.

Gallinari's summer league raises questions on whether he'll be durable enough to withstand the NBA's physical pounding, at 6-10, 227, as a rookie. A European source said Gallinari had various hamstring and knee problems in Italy, but a Knicks source said that was "growing pains."

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I dunno, seem to me we might have more drama to the knicks organization, even with Isiah removed from decision making.

you base you opinion on Berman fodder?

Martin this is drama:

A team source said the Knicks are considering resting Gallinari the remainder of the summer and request he not play for the Italian national team that gets together in two weeks. The decision could be out of Gallinari's hands as the Italian players are threatening a strike.