Posted by MS:

Actually there were a lot of people that were defending not making the deal, defending Donnie for knowing not to take the first deal and holding out for something better. Saying they would rather hold onto Curry and let Zach flourish under Mike D.

Something better just turned out to be losing on a major free agent in two years and the chance to really get under the cap.

Posted by MS:

Actually there were a lot of people that were defending not making the deal, defending Donnie for knowing not to take the first deal and holding out for something better. Saying they would rather hold onto Curry and let Zach flourish under Mike D.

Something better just turned out to be losing on a major free agent in two years and the chance to really get under the cap.

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Knicksfan:
Either way, Zach's value, even at an all-time low for most of you, is more than an expiring contract and a second rounder. At least make it a first

the way i understand it, there isn't even an expiring involved in the deal... Clips are simply absorbing Camby's contract for a future 2nd round pick... it gives the Nuggets instant cap relief & they don't have to take back even an expiring contract in return... it makes sense for the Clippers to do this type of trade... this isn't quite the same as the rumored Zach deal.

Posted by MS:

Well that's just as bad holding out for the pick, now he is stuck here till the end of his deal. You just can't get rid of max deals that easily, maybe i'm wrong and we move him for wally or something like that, but this deal was too good to be true. You never hold out in this type of situation.

Gallo looks like a good player, but Walsh just went against everything he preached when he took over. Again you're getting a trade exception, it's not like your are not getting something in return. If Walsh was holding out for a pick where was he when he had the chance to buy a pick to bring in Darrell Arthur or Chalmers to guys with solid pedigree, which were mid 15 type players.

He wants to move Lee? Why not open up minutes for him to start or get additional minutes to showcase players. We suck already we aren't going to make the playoffs and if we do we are out first round so what is he doing

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by Knicksfan:
Either way, Zach's value, even at an all-time low for most of you, is more than an expiring contract and a second rounder. At least make it a first

the way i understand it, there isn't even an expiring involved in the deal... Clips are simply absorbing Camby's contract for a future 2nd round pick... it gives the Nuggets instant cap relief & they don't have to take back even an expiring contract in return... it makes sense for the Clippers to do this type of trade... this isn't quite the same as the rumored Zach deal.

After losing Elton Brand to Philadelphia, the Clippers called the Knicks seeking a deal to acquire Zach Randolph.
Sports Illustrated reports that the Knicks are unwilling to trade the offensively gifted Randolph for what would amount to a salary dump of the final three years of his contract. The Clippers' proposal would not provide comparable return on talent.

The thinking could be that new head coach Mike D'Antoni will rejuvenate the Knicks while elevating Randolph's game and therefore his trade value.

The Clippers can also pursue Josh Smith and Emeka Okafor to fill their vacant power forward slot, but both are restricted free-agents whose respective teams can match any offer.


This is the original deal that Dunleavy offered for Randolph. Walsh wanted back expiring contracts. Dunleavy threw in Cuttino and DeAndre Jordan. Walsh wanted Gordon, I am not sure if he wanted Cuttino. This story was reported in LA as well. From my understanding Walsh just kept asking for more.

Posted by nyk4ever:

And I will say this.

I think this Denver trade is being viewed as a monetary issue because the Nuggets took nothing back in return, but maybe they just wanted that trade exception so they could use it in a trade instead of a player? I really do think theres a chance Zach could land in Denver, I'm not saying it's a good chance, but I believe there is a chance. When you look at that team, it's built to win and while all of us here believe Zach does not help you win, I've seen GM's take chances on knuckleheads before. It certainly wouldn't be the first time.

Posted by Pharzeone:

Posted by nyk4ever:

And I will say this.

I think this Denver trade is being viewed as a monetary issue because the Nuggets took nothing back in return, but maybe they just wanted that trade exception so they could use it in a trade instead of a player? I really do think theres a chance Zach could land in Denver, I'm not saying it's a good chance, but I believe there is a chance. When you look at that team, it's built to win and while all of us here believe Zach does not help you win, I've seen GM's take chances on knuckleheads before. It certainly wouldn't be the first time.

But why wouldn't Denver then pursue Okafor or Smith in possible S&T.

Posted by Cookdcokehop:

David Lee is def gonna be traded now bc the only way to trade Zach at this point is to dangle Lee with him.

Posted by MS:

Denver isn't really built to win anything.