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What Kind Of Numbers Would Galinari Have Put Up In the NCAA?
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fishmike
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6/30/2008  8:00 AM
who said this kid sits out on the perimeter? He was among the league leaders in FT attempts. Whatever he is doing its getting him to line an awful lot. This kids plays with contact
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6/30/2008  9:34 AM
Posted by rain:

Briggs.. he is an infinitely better athlete than Murphy. Gallinari has a first step and handle, and can finish around the rim.
He has major game. He doesn't jump well.. but he also has grown three inches in a year and half.

Give it some time, you'll see. Your selling him short.
At 6'8.. he's not a good athlete. At 6'10 1/2 he's a very good athlete that will take Boozer away from the rim and either shoot over him, or take him off the dribble. Your not seeing the possibilities.. no pick we could have made has this much upside. I applaud Walsh and D'Antoni for taking a shot.

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Posted by oohah:

[quote]Posted by BRIGGS:

Andrew Bogut who was atleast three times the prospect averaged 20 points as a sophmore with 12 rebounds shooting 62%

Danillio with his stifflegs and positioing would not have averaged more than 6 rebounds and depending who he played for 14-17 points around 45% shooting

A better comparison in terms of game or skillset would be Troy Murphy, don't you think? In terms of size and skill they are comparable. They both like to play the perimeter and have similar athletic ability. I would say Murphy is a slightly better athlete, and Galinari has better ball-handling skills.

Since Galinari Shot over 40% from the longer 3 point range, he would have averaged quite a bit.

I think he would have been like Troy Murphy.

oohah



I dont know if you watched Troy Murphy at all in the Big east--he was a pure post player who shot an occasional 3 pointer --and he had more height and weight But while you are on that subject that is one of my biggest negatives about this pick--I do not believe in a 4 who is a 3 pt shooter i believe 4s should be mid range to post.



Thanks for making my point with the link

Troy Murphy Sophmore year==danillo 19 same age

2pt FG makes 274 3pt makes 30

total makes 304 30 represents less than 10% of made shots He didnt even average 1 3 point make per game.

anything else?



[Edited by - BRIGGS on 06-29-2008 6:38 PM]

Rain, I think you said it best. Danillo's first step is a long one and he won't need to do crossovers and fake out many people because of the mismatches he will create.
A few things should be said about this kid and lets not get caught up in sheer atheticity (is that a word ;)
He has a handle.
Can shoot from the outside.
Can drive and finish.
Can hit his free throws.
Is a very high IQ player (If you doubt that watch how he plays and it isn't the "highlight" videos making him appear to play smart. This is NOT your average 19 year old).

So you can see on the offensive end anyway the kid is an all around player. Defensively he will be challenged at times but the number of mismatches he creates will more than make up for it imo.
Another thing HE IS NOT DONE GROWING AND RIGHT NOW IS 6'9" WITHOUT SHOES. He is a mismatch machine. This is why I see him as a 4, I don't think defensively he will have a chance against most
3's, though I'm no expert.

Look at what we have, not who we don't. He has heart and is not soft ala Charmin.

Whether we like him or not one needs to at least be a bit excited about what he may become. Quite a few high IQ and not so great athletes have dominated the NBA.

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6/30/2008  9:37 AM
the boozers of the world won't guard him. sloan will stick AK on him.

if he is at the 4 teams will just go small and play their own hybrid F.

be interesting to see how he fairs in the div alone defended by guys like Posey or Thad Young.

he better be every bit of Bird with his ability to get a shot off cause he isn't beating them with quickness
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6/30/2008  10:25 AM
I watched a kid for three years that would have been a lottery pick if he would have left Denmark at the age of 17. Instead he came to the states and played. 6-9 great passer, great shooter, and handle the ball with the best of them. His junior year in the middle of the night quit his team and went back to Europe. Christian Drejer was touted as the next great european and got nothing done in the SEC.
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6/30/2008  10:31 AM
Posted by McK1:

the boozers of the world won't guard him. sloan will stick AK on him.

if he is at the 4 teams will just go small and play their own hybrid F.

be interesting to see how he fairs in the div alone defended by guys like Posey or Thad Young.

he better be every bit of Bird with his ability to get a shot off cause he isn't beating them with quickness


good point, but I don't always buy these so called, lock down defenders. Posey is good, but far from a lock down guy, he was one of the guys getting torched by crawford when he went off for 52 points against miami.... Guys like young and posey may be too short to bother the shot of a guy like gallinari. Danillo is long, tall and he has a good enough handle to create space.. should be interesting tho..
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6/30/2008  10:32 AM
Posted by King1:

I watched a kid for three years that would have been a lottery pick if he would have left Denmark at the age of 17. Instead he came to the states and played. 6-9 great passer, great shooter, and handle the ball with the best of them. His junior year in the middle of the night quit his team and went back to Europe. Christian Drejer was touted as the next great european and got nothing done in the SEC.

what league was he playing in at 17?
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6/30/2008  11:21 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

Adam Morrison averaged like 30ppg in college. it's a different game than the NBA. we'll see how Danilo adjusts to the NBA.

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6/30/2008  11:46 AM
How many Italian league players come over and are great players vs guys that have failed?
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6/30/2008  11:50 AM
Posted by King1:

How many Italian league players come over and are great players vs guys that have failed?

Why can't this kid be a hard worker who is still young and evolving his game? I mean we hear you say it about Lee all the time.
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6/30/2008  11:54 AM
Posted by King1:

How many Italian league players come over and are great players vs guys that have failed?

too small a pool to make any conclusions.
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6/30/2008  11:59 AM
Posted by King1:

How many Italian league players come over and are great players vs guys that have failed?

how many spanish guys came over before gasol? how many germans before nowitzki? how many croatians before kukoc?

king, how many times have you seen this kid play?
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6/30/2008  12:58 PM
As many as Walsh
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6/30/2008  12:59 PM
I am not saying the kid is a bad player but NYC isnt the place to cut your teeth. If he isnt ready in three years and is MDA doesnt win in two they will both be gone.
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6/30/2008  1:03 PM
The NBA is literally littered with really good players from the Italian league. From guys like Toni Kukoc in the past, to all the really good Argentinians in the game right now (Ginobili, Scola, Nocioni). The Italian league is not just a bunch of players born in Italy. There are ton of former NBA'ers, former college stars and young Euro prospects playing there. And they get paid extremely well. Should be fun when Marbury goes there and is not a star.
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6/30/2008  1:14 PM
Posted by King1:

I am not saying the kid is a bad player but NYC isnt the place to cut your teeth. If he isnt ready in three years and is MDA doesnt win in two they will both be gone.

A guy from St. Louis telling us who can make it in NYC? The city is full of people who weren't born here who have made themselves a success. What sample size of foreign born players do you have here to make that statement? Lampe and Vranes? Two 2nd round guys who couldn't ball anyway? The Yankees have had hundreds of foreign born players who have come through their system and succeeded in this town. Do you know Danilo personally? What about his personality leads you believe you can't succeed? Or is "he can't get it done in NYC," antoher vague indisputable cliche that you can use to once again convey that you don't like this pick.
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6/30/2008  1:47 PM
I am not saying he cant suceed what I am saying will the fans and coaches have enough time to let him go two or three years without giving us a lot? Do you really think if MDA losses 50 games the next two years that people wont be calling for his head. IF DG averages 3.0 pts this year and 7.0 next will people be patient?
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6/30/2008  1:51 PM
New York fans were calling for A-Rod head a couple of years ago, when he was putting up numbers. I will go on record and say this DG will have the worst stats than any other lottery pick this year. How old was Manu and Pau when they started producing they were grown men. Most of the europeans that come over play for years in Europe or another country. Besides Dirk what 19 year old has came over and made an impact?
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6/30/2008  1:57 PM
The three guys you have named Scola 27 year old rookie played 8 years in Europe, Ginobli 24 and played 7 years in europe, and Nocioni seven years anbd a 24 year old rookie. These guys have track records DG played 11 games as a 19 year old in the top league. To me that is taking a huge chance and if the 6th pick at 27 years old produces Scola and Nocioni that is probably not a good use of the 6th pick
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6/30/2008  2:03 PM
Posted by King1:

New York fans were calling for A-Rod head a couple of years ago, when he was putting up numbers. I will go on record and say this DG will have the worst stats than any other lottery pick this year. How old was Manu and Pau when they started producing they were grown men. Most of the europeans that come over play for years in Europe or another country. Besides Dirk what 19 year old has came over and made an impact?

I don't know about that. Gallinari will be starting from Day 1, whether he deerves to or not. He'll be force fed the ball, allowed to shoot as much as he wants and won't be bothered with any demands to play defense.

I see him averaging around 10-12 points, mostly from the perimeter. He won't be quick enough to get into the paint and will quickly become frustrated with all the charging fouls called on him that he'll end up sitting on the perimeter. He'll be an absolute sieve on defense. Too slow to guard SF's and too slow and weak to guard PF's.
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6/30/2008  2:05 PM
Posted by islesfan:


I don't know about that. Gallinari will be starting from Day 1, whether he deerves to or not. He'll be force fed the ball, allowed to shoot as much as he wants and won't be bothered with any demands to play defense.

I see him averaging around 10-12 points, mostly from the perimeter. He won't be quick enough to get into the paint and will quickly become frustrated with all the charging fouls called on him that he'll end up sitting on the perimeter. He'll be an absolute sieve on defense. Too slow to guard SF's and too slow and weak to guard PF's.

Tell us again what you are basing this "scouting report" off of?

Is this the Isles shock-value post of the week?
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