Posted by islesfan:

Posted by izybx:

I guess its going to be a battle between Bayless and Gallinari next season. Im pretty confident that Gallinari smokes him next year

That brings up a good question. What is going to be the determining factor in this little game of "I Told You So"?

Gallinario has a huge advantage playing in a system built to maximize offensive stats, doesn't have to worry about playing defense and will get the opportunity right away for as many minutes as he can handle.

Bayless on the other hand is joining a really young team still trying to figure out how to play together, is going to be playing the most demanding position to learn in PG, is probably going to be coming off the bench for a good portion of the year, will be the 4th or 5th option on offense and has the incumbant starter and another promising young PG in front of him starting training camp.

Obviously Bayless would have more of an opportunity to put up numbers if he were drafted by the Knicks. Going strictly by numbers this year will be a very unfair way to judge them.

Posted by izybx:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by izybx:

I guess its going to be a battle between Bayless and Gallinari next season. Im pretty confident that Gallinari smokes him next year

That brings up a good question. What is going to be the determining factor in this little game of "I Told You So"?

Gallinario has a huge advantage playing in a system built to maximize offensive stats, doesn't have to worry about playing defense and will get the opportunity right away for as many minutes as he can handle.

Bayless on the other hand is joining a really young team still trying to figure out how to play together, is going to be playing the most demanding position to learn in PG, is probably going to be coming off the bench for a good portion of the year, will be the 4th or 5th option on offense and has the incumbant starter and another promising young PG in front of him starting training camp.

Obviously Bayless would have more of an opportunity to put up numbers if he were drafted by the Knicks. Going strictly by numbers this year will be a very unfair way to judge them.

Sounds like someone agrees with me that Gallinari is going to have a much better year

That settles it. Pull my entry. I don't play rigged games.

Let me guess, Heads you win, Tails I lose.

No thanks.

Posted by BigC:

The Knicks biggest need is a pg and they drafted a sf?

We got a sf that they want to convert to a pf. This theme should sound familiar to Knick fans. How many times have the Knicks said they want to convert players natural position and have been successful?



The Rooster could very well become a good player but at the end of the day we need a point guard. Now you have trade ideas about getting a point guard when we should have drafted a point guard in the first place.

Posted by Allanfan20:

Posted by BigC:

The Knicks biggest need is a pg and they drafted a sf?

We got a sf that they want to convert to a pf. This theme should sound familiar to Knick fans. How many times have the Knicks said they want to convert players natural position and have been successful?



The Rooster could very well become a good player but at the end of the day we need a point guard. Now you have trade ideas about getting a point guard when we should have drafted a point guard in the first place.

You can't always draft on need. It's better to draft on best player available.

Posted by KnicksSince88:

Posted by BigC:

Posted by Allanfan20:

Posted by BigC:

The Knicks biggest need is a pg and they drafted a sf?

We got a sf that they want to convert to a pf. This theme should sound familiar to Knick fans. How many times have the Knicks said they want to convert players natural position and have been successful?



The Rooster could very well become a good player but at the end of the day we need a point guard. Now you have trade ideas about getting a point guard when we should have drafted a point guard in the first place.

You can't always draft on need. It's better to draft on best player available.

Our point guard situation is a mess. Why not start with the point guard and then move forward?

Probably because the Knicks didn't want to force a pick on a guy who stands under 6 feet even with shoes on (Augustine) or a guy who isn't even a true PG (Bayless) just for the sake of taking a PG. They took Gallinari because they thought he was the best player available. Some of us here know all about Gallinari because we watched a 30 second clip of him on youtube and read a profile on NBAdraft.net. Thankfully organizations worth multi millions of dollars aren't tied down by the same restrictions we are when it comes to scouting these players. They've had scouts watch this kid play (presumably for over a year), they've interviewed him, they've worked him out in their head quarters. They had just as much information on this kid as they did any American player, and the information they had led them to believe that he was the best player on the board.

Could they be wrong? Sure. But they have a lot more to go off of than any of us do. And thank GOD they didn't try to make a selection based on need with this team. This team needs talent, thats what they need. When you have talent then you start worrying about filling needs.

There are less than a handful of current Knicks who will play for the next Knick team who wins a playoff series. And we're going to make decisions based on the crappy roster we have? Need is out the window, you always go best player available when you are a crappy team in our situation

By the time Gallinari is 22 years old 90% of this roster will be elsewhere


[Edited by - KnicksSince88 on 06-28-2008 10:16 AM]

Posted by crzymdups:

Isles, everything i've seen from Bayless makes me think he is a giant punk. why would you want that kid? he's a horrible little jerk who was pissed he was traded to portland, the most talented young team in the nba. now he's saying teams are crazy to think he can't play SG and PG. screw this kid, seriously.

i'm guessing the knicks passed on him for his nasty little attitude.