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Granted, Isiah & Dolan crapped this organization big time, but every other team it seems is making deals and adding picks and what did we do? Grade him - A B C D F INC (incomplete)
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He didn't do well. He drafted an unknown project who has very much the capability to be worse than Andrea Bargnani. He should have been able to get another pick and make a trade that supports the 2010 movement. He was pretty much inactive.

He gets a D from me. D=Dumb, D=Dolt, D=Ditz, D=Doofus

you can say that about every pick.



I can confidently say there are at least 5 players who will have a better pro career than Danilo picked after him. There were players picked after him who weren't projects, who will have without a shadow of a doubt a very solid pro career. If for nothing else the guy doesn't completely understand the American game which puts him at a disadvantage. Of course he could be a fast learner, adjust well, and be a good player but in terms of projects with upside I wouldn't have picked Danilo higher than any other player. Plus he doesn't satisfy any of immediate needs.

We always try and rationalize our picks being better than are. Lee was nice but even then not nice enough of a pick to keep. All the rest of our picks haven't lived up to anything the past 5-7yrs.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-27-2008 10:08 AM]

who are your 5 players?

I guess Walsh and D'Antoni were trying to pick the BPA with the most upside. By your rationale, you would not have picked Dirk and perhaps Kobe either.


Danilo isn't being compared to Dirk and there was no project in this draft comparable to Kobe. I said I would have been willing to choose a player with upside(if we absolutely weren't trading the pick) who fulfilled our needs like Jordan(C)(defensive center who can man the paint block shots and has incredible athletic ability) or even DJ(PG) natural pure point guard player considering his supposed height risks(although some might not consider him a project). So I fail to see where you're going brining up Kobe an Dirk. Does Jordan stand the chance to be a Bust he sure does but he also could Dwight. Does DJ stand the chance to be a Bust sure he does but he also could a close Steve Nash. I'm not sure who they're being compared to right now but I haven't heard Danilo being mentioned in the same breath as Dirk. Let's roll with this example both Dirk ad Kobe were picked in different drafts so obviously out of their drafts I'd have picked Dirk as a project over say Peja Stojakovic or Zydrunas Illguaskas and picked Dirk over say Nesterovic or Ricky Davis. In essence IMO we reached for a player in the mold of Peja/Turkeyglue talent. Both ok players(take or leave them) can be good when you have the pieces around them.

dirk and kobe were projects and they wouldn't have satisfied needs either. The comparison is the "project" part.

There's no talent in this draft being compared to them. Totally different the talent separation between Joe and Danilo is slim to zero. There are always the exceptions like Danilo could be Darko. If the Pistons didn't want Melo because they had Prince why didn't they draft Chris Kaman or Boris Diaw instead? Both would have been better projects than Darko.

you still miss my point. If Kobe circa 1996 or Dirk circa 1998 where in this draft, you would have passed.

Well Circa 2003 Danilo could equal Darko instead of Kaman. We can play the semantics game all day Martin.

Players who aren't projects get passed up all the time due to teams picking players based off need, so obviously some projects would get passed up on for the same reasons.

And while we're playing this game I'd pass on Kobe in 1996 but then pick up Nash point guard or O'neal center from that draft.

LOL Kobe was picked 13 so he got passed up by quite a few GM's one of them being our very own Donnie Walsh. DW sends you his thanks for the compliment.

In 1998 Dirk was picked 9th once again passed up on by several teams during that draft the only 2-3 real projects heralded in that draft were Nesty and Ricky Davis but since we drafted a SF in Danilo who fills our needs to a minor degree compared to us finding a point guard or center I'll go ahead and duplicate this by drafting Paul Pierce instead of Dirk and let him fall to 10.

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Who the hell gave Walsh an A? Man up.

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6/27/2008  3:10 PM
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He didn't do well. He drafted an unknown project who has very much the capability to be worse than Andrea Bargnani. He should have been able to get another pick and make a trade that supports the 2010 movement. He was pretty much inactive.

He gets a D from me. D=Dumb, D=Dolt, D=Ditz, D=Doofus

you can say that about every pick.



I can confidently say there are at least 5 players who will have a better pro career than Danilo picked after him. There were players picked after him who weren't projects, who will have without a shadow of a doubt a very solid pro career. If for nothing else the guy doesn't completely understand the American game which puts him at a disadvantage. Of course he could be a fast learner, adjust well, and be a good player but in terms of projects with upside I wouldn't have picked Danilo higher than any other player. Plus he doesn't satisfy any of immediate needs.

We always try and rationalize our picks being better than are. Lee was nice but even then not nice enough of a pick to keep. All the rest of our picks haven't lived up to anything the past 5-7yrs.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-27-2008 10:08 AM]

who are your 5 players?

I guess Walsh and D'Antoni were trying to pick the BPA with the most upside. By your rationale, you would not have picked Dirk and perhaps Kobe either.


Danilo isn't being compared to Dirk and there was no project in this draft comparable to Kobe. I said I would have been willing to choose a player with upside(if we absolutely weren't trading the pick) who fulfilled our needs like Jordan(C)(defensive center who can man the paint block shots and has incredible athletic ability) or even DJ(PG) natural pure point guard player considering his supposed height risks(although some might not consider him a project). So I fail to see where you're going brining up Kobe an Dirk. Does Jordan stand the chance to be a Bust he sure does but he also could Dwight. Does DJ stand the chance to be a Bust sure he does but he also could a close Steve Nash. I'm not sure who they're being compared to right now but I haven't heard Danilo being mentioned in the same breath as Dirk. Let's roll with this example both Dirk ad Kobe were picked in different drafts so obviously out of their drafts I'd have picked Dirk as a project over say Peja Stojakovic or Zydrunas Illguaskas and picked Dirk over say Nesterovic or Ricky Davis. In essence IMO we reached for a player in the mold of Peja/Turkeyglue talent. Both ok players(take or leave them) can be good when you have the pieces around them.

dirk and kobe were projects and they wouldn't have satisfied needs either. The comparison is the "project" part.

There's no talent in this draft being compared to them. Totally different the talent separation between Joe and Danilo is slim to zero. There are always the exceptions like Danilo could be Darko. If the Pistons didn't want Melo because they had Prince why didn't they draft Chris Kaman or Boris Diaw instead? Both would have been better projects than Darko.

you still miss my point. If Kobe circa 1996 or Dirk circa 1998 where in this draft, you would have passed.

Well Circa 2003 Danilo could equal Darko instead of Kaman. We can play the semantics game all day Martin.

Players who aren't projects get passed up all the time due to teams picking players based off need, so obviously some projects would get passed up on for the same reasons.

And while we're playing this game I'd pass on Kobe in 1996 but then pick up Nash point guard or O'neal center from that draft.

LOL Kobe was picked 13 so he got passed up by quite a few GM's one of them being our very own Donnie Walsh. DW sends you his thanks for the compliment.

In 1998 Dirk was picked 9th once again passed up on by several teams during that draft the only 2-3 real projects heralded in that draft were Nesty and Ricky Davis but since we drafted a SF in Danilo who fills our needs to a minor degree compared to us finding a point guard or center I'll go ahead and duplicate this by drafting Paul Pierce instead of Dirk and let him fall to 10.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-27-2008 1:15 PM]

the Knicks were drafting BPA, not need, otherwise they would have gone after a PG. That's the whole premise here, and also who you would have passed on Dirk and Kobe in the same situation.

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He didn't do well. He drafted an unknown project who has very much the capability to be worse than Andrea Bargnani. He should have been able to get another pick and make a trade that supports the 2010 movement. He was pretty much inactive.

He gets a D from me. D=Dumb, D=Dolt, D=Ditz, D=Doofus

you can say that about every pick.



I can confidently say there are at least 5 players who will have a better pro career than Danilo picked after him. There were players picked after him who weren't projects, who will have without a shadow of a doubt a very solid pro career. If for nothing else the guy doesn't completely understand the American game which puts him at a disadvantage. Of course he could be a fast learner, adjust well, and be a good player but in terms of projects with upside I wouldn't have picked Danilo higher than any other player. Plus he doesn't satisfy any of immediate needs.

We always try and rationalize our picks being better than are. Lee was nice but even then not nice enough of a pick to keep. All the rest of our picks haven't lived up to anything the past 5-7yrs.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-27-2008 10:08 AM]

who are your 5 players?

I guess Walsh and D'Antoni were trying to pick the BPA with the most upside. By your rationale, you would not have picked Dirk and perhaps Kobe either.


Danilo isn't being compared to Dirk and there was no project in this draft comparable to Kobe. I said I would have been willing to choose a player with upside(if we absolutely weren't trading the pick) who fulfilled our needs like Jordan(C)(defensive center who can man the paint block shots and has incredible athletic ability) or even DJ(PG) natural pure point guard player considering his supposed height risks(although some might not consider him a project). So I fail to see where you're going brining up Kobe an Dirk. Does Jordan stand the chance to be a Bust he sure does but he also could Dwight. Does DJ stand the chance to be a Bust sure he does but he also could a close Steve Nash. I'm not sure who they're being compared to right now but I haven't heard Danilo being mentioned in the same breath as Dirk. Let's roll with this example both Dirk ad Kobe were picked in different drafts so obviously out of their drafts I'd have picked Dirk as a project over say Peja Stojakovic or Zydrunas Illguaskas and picked Dirk over say Nesterovic or Ricky Davis. In essence IMO we reached for a player in the mold of Peja/Turkeyglue talent. Both ok players(take or leave them) can be good when you have the pieces around them.

dirk and kobe were projects and they wouldn't have satisfied needs either. The comparison is the "project" part.

There's no talent in this draft being compared to them. Totally different the talent separation between Joe and Danilo is slim to zero. There are always the exceptions like Danilo could be Darko. If the Pistons didn't want Melo because they had Prince why didn't they draft Chris Kaman or Boris Diaw instead? Both would have been better projects than Darko.

you still miss my point. If Kobe circa 1996 or Dirk circa 1998 where in this draft, you would have passed.

Well Circa 2003 Danilo could equal Darko instead of Kaman. We can play the semantics game all day Martin.

Players who aren't projects get passed up all the time due to teams picking players based off need, so obviously some projects would get passed up on for the same reasons.

And while we're playing this game I'd pass on Kobe in 1996 but then pick up Nash point guard or O'neal center from that draft.

LOL Kobe was picked 13 so he got passed up by quite a few GM's one of them being our very own Donnie Walsh. DW sends you his thanks for the compliment.

In 1998 Dirk was picked 9th once again passed up on by several teams during that draft the only 2-3 real projects heralded in that draft were Nesty and Ricky Davis but since we drafted a SF in Danilo who fills our needs to a minor degree compared to us finding a point guard or center I'll go ahead and duplicate this by drafting Paul Pierce instead of Dirk and let him fall to 10.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-27-2008 1:15 PM]

the Knicks were drafting BPA, not need, otherwise they would have gone after a PG. That's the whole premise here, and also who you would have passed on Dirk and Kobe in the same situation.


You're honestly going to ride with this notion the Knicks picked BPA @ 6 in a project like Danilo? Every analyst said "WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE PATIENT WITH THE KID." that doesn't sound like BPA to me and going by how the draft went... sorry Danilo wasn't BPA @ 6.

The people who would have passed on Dirk and Kobe are the same people who passed on them back when they were drafted in 1996 and 1998, one of them being Donnie Walsh.


The Knicks drafted their guy who they targeted before the draft even came to fruition, it had nothing to do with BPA and a lot to do with D-Cups.
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He didn't do well. He drafted an unknown project who has very much the capability to be worse than Andrea Bargnani. He should have been able to get another pick and make a trade that supports the 2010 movement. He was pretty much inactive.

He gets a D from me. D=Dumb, D=Dolt, D=Ditz, D=Doofus

you can say that about every pick.



I can confidently say there are at least 5 players who will have a better pro career than Danilo picked after him. There were players picked after him who weren't projects, who will have without a shadow of a doubt a very solid pro career. If for nothing else the guy doesn't completely understand the American game which puts him at a disadvantage. Of course he could be a fast learner, adjust well, and be a good player but in terms of projects with upside I wouldn't have picked Danilo higher than any other player. Plus he doesn't satisfy any of immediate needs.

We always try and rationalize our picks being better than are. Lee was nice but even then not nice enough of a pick to keep. All the rest of our picks haven't lived up to anything the past 5-7yrs.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-27-2008 10:08 AM]

who are your 5 players?

I guess Walsh and D'Antoni were trying to pick the BPA with the most upside. By your rationale, you would not have picked Dirk and perhaps Kobe either.


Danilo isn't being compared to Dirk and there was no project in this draft comparable to Kobe. I said I would have been willing to choose a player with upside(if we absolutely weren't trading the pick) who fulfilled our needs like Jordan(C)(defensive center who can man the paint block shots and has incredible athletic ability) or even DJ(PG) natural pure point guard player considering his supposed height risks(although some might not consider him a project). So I fail to see where you're going brining up Kobe an Dirk. Does Jordan stand the chance to be a Bust he sure does but he also could Dwight. Does DJ stand the chance to be a Bust sure he does but he also could a close Steve Nash. I'm not sure who they're being compared to right now but I haven't heard Danilo being mentioned in the same breath as Dirk. Let's roll with this example both Dirk ad Kobe were picked in different drafts so obviously out of their drafts I'd have picked Dirk as a project over say Peja Stojakovic or Zydrunas Illguaskas and picked Dirk over say Nesterovic or Ricky Davis. In essence IMO we reached for a player in the mold of Peja/Turkeyglue talent. Both ok players(take or leave them) can be good when you have the pieces around them.

dirk and kobe were projects and they wouldn't have satisfied needs either. The comparison is the "project" part.

There's no talent in this draft being compared to them. Totally different the talent separation between Joe and Danilo is slim to zero. There are always the exceptions like Danilo could be Darko. If the Pistons didn't want Melo because they had Prince why didn't they draft Chris Kaman or Boris Diaw instead? Both would have been better projects than Darko.

you still miss my point. If Kobe circa 1996 or Dirk circa 1998 where in this draft, you would have passed.

Well Circa 2003 Danilo could equal Darko instead of Kaman. We can play the semantics game all day Martin.

Players who aren't projects get passed up all the time due to teams picking players based off need, so obviously some projects would get passed up on for the same reasons.

And while we're playing this game I'd pass on Kobe in 1996 but then pick up Nash point guard or O'neal center from that draft.

LOL Kobe was picked 13 so he got passed up by quite a few GM's one of them being our very own Donnie Walsh. DW sends you his thanks for the compliment.

In 1998 Dirk was picked 9th once again passed up on by several teams during that draft the only 2-3 real projects heralded in that draft were Nesty and Ricky Davis but since we drafted a SF in Danilo who fills our needs to a minor degree compared to us finding a point guard or center I'll go ahead and duplicate this by drafting Paul Pierce instead of Dirk and let him fall to 10.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-27-2008 1:15 PM]

the Knicks were drafting BPA, not need, otherwise they would have gone after a PG. That's the whole premise here, and also who you would have passed on Dirk and Kobe in the same situation.

That is tough to compare Kobe Bryant to anyone. Every year there is a new Dirk--and I havent seen the new one yet from draft position 1 on down. Knicks passed on Bynum who had 10 times more potential than gallinari--where were they there when a 7-1 280 pound athletic skill monster was sitting at there pick? The funny thing is when someone comes on here and says Gallinari has more potenial than Bynum.
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6/27/2008  3:22 PM
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He didn't do well. He drafted an unknown project who has very much the capability to be worse than Andrea Bargnani. He should have been able to get another pick and make a trade that supports the 2010 movement. He was pretty much inactive.

He gets a D from me. D=Dumb, D=Dolt, D=Ditz, D=Doofus

you can say that about every pick.



I can confidently say there are at least 5 players who will have a better pro career than Danilo picked after him. There were players picked after him who weren't projects, who will have without a shadow of a doubt a very solid pro career. If for nothing else the guy doesn't completely understand the American game which puts him at a disadvantage. Of course he could be a fast learner, adjust well, and be a good player but in terms of projects with upside I wouldn't have picked Danilo higher than any other player. Plus he doesn't satisfy any of immediate needs.

We always try and rationalize our picks being better than are. Lee was nice but even then not nice enough of a pick to keep. All the rest of our picks haven't lived up to anything the past 5-7yrs.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-27-2008 10:08 AM]

who are your 5 players?

I guess Walsh and D'Antoni were trying to pick the BPA with the most upside. By your rationale, you would not have picked Dirk and perhaps Kobe either.


Danilo isn't being compared to Dirk and there was no project in this draft comparable to Kobe. I said I would have been willing to choose a player with upside(if we absolutely weren't trading the pick) who fulfilled our needs like Jordan(C)(defensive center who can man the paint block shots and has incredible athletic ability) or even DJ(PG) natural pure point guard player considering his supposed height risks(although some might not consider him a project). So I fail to see where you're going brining up Kobe an Dirk. Does Jordan stand the chance to be a Bust he sure does but he also could Dwight. Does DJ stand the chance to be a Bust sure he does but he also could a close Steve Nash. I'm not sure who they're being compared to right now but I haven't heard Danilo being mentioned in the same breath as Dirk. Let's roll with this example both Dirk ad Kobe were picked in different drafts so obviously out of their drafts I'd have picked Dirk as a project over say Peja Stojakovic or Zydrunas Illguaskas and picked Dirk over say Nesterovic or Ricky Davis. In essence IMO we reached for a player in the mold of Peja/Turkeyglue talent. Both ok players(take or leave them) can be good when you have the pieces around them.

dirk and kobe were projects and they wouldn't have satisfied needs either. The comparison is the "project" part.

There's no talent in this draft being compared to them. Totally different the talent separation between Joe and Danilo is slim to zero. There are always the exceptions like Danilo could be Darko. If the Pistons didn't want Melo because they had Prince why didn't they draft Chris Kaman or Boris Diaw instead? Both would have been better projects than Darko.

you still miss my point. If Kobe circa 1996 or Dirk circa 1998 where in this draft, you would have passed.

Well Circa 2003 Danilo could equal Darko instead of Kaman. We can play the semantics game all day Martin.

Players who aren't projects get passed up all the time due to teams picking players based off need, so obviously some projects would get passed up on for the same reasons.

And while we're playing this game I'd pass on Kobe in 1996 but then pick up Nash point guard or O'neal center from that draft.

LOL Kobe was picked 13 so he got passed up by quite a few GM's one of them being our very own Donnie Walsh. DW sends you his thanks for the compliment.

In 1998 Dirk was picked 9th once again passed up on by several teams during that draft the only 2-3 real projects heralded in that draft were Nesty and Ricky Davis but since we drafted a SF in Danilo who fills our needs to a minor degree compared to us finding a point guard or center I'll go ahead and duplicate this by drafting Paul Pierce instead of Dirk and let him fall to 10.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 06-27-2008 1:15 PM]

the Knicks were drafting BPA, not need, otherwise they would have gone after a PG. That's the whole premise here, and also who you would have passed on Dirk and Kobe in the same situation.


You're honestly going to ride with this notion the Knicks picked BPA @ 6 in a project like Danilo? Every analyst said "WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE PATIENT WITH THE KID." that doesn't sound like BPA to me and going by how the draft went... sorry Danilo wasn't BPA @ 6.

The people who would have passed on Dirk and Kobe are the same people who passed on them back when they were drafted in 1996 and 1998, one of them being Donnie Walsh.


The Knicks drafted their guy who they targeted before the draft even came to fruition, it had nothing to do with BPA and a lot to do with D-Cups.

I need to clarify what I meant by BPA.... I include upside potential with that. I don't care what Walsh did in 1996 (he did have Reggie Miller, right?), we are talking what YOU would be doing.
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Love the pick, but was disappointed they didn't find a way back into the draft for a guard.
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6/27/2008  3:27 PM
Good point Briggs

Martin dug back a decade on the drafts, found two examples, one them exposing our very own GM and with that said you could come up with equal if not more examples to combat the ones he brought up.

Like I said I pass on Kobe give me Nash or O'neal(if it's about projects)

I pass on Dirk give me Paul Pierce(if it's about BPA)

Now of course Kobe>>>>>Nash and/or O'neal but who's to say how many rings either of them two would have had if they were drafted instead of Kobe and traded, got a chance to play with Shaq in his prime, along with being coached by Phil Jackson and having Jerry West and not Donnie Walsh as a GM.



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I need to clarify what I meant by BPA.... I include upside potential with that. I don't care what Walsh did in 1996 (he did have Reggie Miller, right?), we are talking what YOU would be doing.

Who's judging the upside? What can Gallinari do that other players can't and vise versa? Gallinari can't play above the rim in a similar manner as Jordan as does Jordan can't play a perimeter game as Gallinari as Gallinari can't provide the interior defensive presence as Jordan as does Jordan can't put the ball on the floor to create his own offense like Gallinari. It all depends on what you value and of course we have a head coach who's last concern is defense so obviously Gallinari fit perfectly... a jumpshooting no defense playing 3/4 who may be able to put the ball on the floor to get past his man from time-to-time.

WHat kind of upside does DG have is it Dirk because if that's the case Jordan has Dwight Howard upside.

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6/27/2008  3:46 PM
Let the guy play an f'in game first for God sake. Nobody knows who anyone is and what they will do in the league. The guy is years away from reaching his peak position. If he develops the right way, he could be a very good NBA player. We'll just have to wait and see. Crying about why we didn't pick Bayless isn't going to do anything. Bayless was passed over by everyone else too by falling all the way down to 11. I'm sure nobody else is crying.
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6/27/2008  4:39 PM
B - they got a guy they wanted bottomline & made no horrific Antonio McDyess/Zach Randolph type trades... our team is improved bottomline... to fault them for not being able to work out some huge blockbuster trade when they were left w/the crap Isiah left behind is ridiculous.
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INC - for me, I like the reasons TMS mentioned. I believe Lee killed that #5 deal, I can't get mad at the man for trying to come out of the draft with both Mayo and DG. My knocks are what I perceive to be vindictive shots taken at Lee for maybe blowing that deal (letting it "leak out" that Lee is the odd man out on his flagship station) and not buying a pick outright, although I think it more to do with Dolan or cap related since this has been going on now for the last 4 GMs, maybe a Cablevision company policy thing. Walsh said the trading season hasn't started yet and indicated this is just the first step this summer.
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i agree, if they had bought an extra pick like they were easily capable of i would have given them a better grade.
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6/27/2008  6:01 PM
Posted by TMS:

B - they got a guy they wanted bottomline & made no horrific Antonio McDyess/Zach Randolph type trades... our team is improved bottomline... to fault them for not being able to work out some huge blockbuster trade when they were left w/the crap Isiah left behind is ridiculous.

low standards if you give a B- just because they didn't F the thing up.

I don't expect massive trade- just get another pick for some of these guys that fell.
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6/27/2008  6:04 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by TMS:

B - they got a guy they wanted bottomline & made no horrific Antonio McDyess/Zach Randolph type trades... our team is improved bottomline... to fault them for not being able to work out some huge blockbuster trade when they were left w/the crap Isiah left behind is ridiculous.

low standards if you give a B- just because they didn't F the thing up.

I don't expect massive trade- just get another pick for some of these guys that fell.

they got the guy they wanted who i feel can do well in the new system next year & didn't take a guy that makes no sense for this team... why is that not worthy of a B-? if they'd bought an extra pick i woulda given them a higher grade like i already mentioned... an A if they'd made some deal to trade up for someone like Mayo... what's your standards? they get a barely pass on the draft?
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6/27/2008  6:06 PM
Posted by TMS:

B - they got a guy they wanted bottomline & made no horrific Antonio McDyess/Zach Randolph type trades... our team is improved bottomline... to fault them for not being able to work out some huge blockbuster trade when they were left w/the crap Isiah left behind is ridiculous.

You think they were incapable of moving up one or two slots to grab Mayo? They almost assuredly should have known that McHale was set on getting Love (Oh boy, what an idiot)
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6/27/2008  6:08 PM
Posted by sebstar:
Posted by TMS:

B - they got a guy they wanted bottomline & made no horrific Antonio McDyess/Zach Randolph type trades... our team is improved bottomline... to fault them for not being able to work out some huge blockbuster trade when they were left w/the crap Isiah left behind is ridiculous.

You think they were incapable of moving up one or two slots to grab Mayo? They almost assuredly should have known that McHale was set on getting Love (Oh boy, what an idiot)

no, i don't think they were incapable... i think they were in discussions to do just that but for 1 reason or another it didn't happen... can't fault Walsh for that... i'm pretty sure they weren't trying to get cute on McHale, but obviously none of us really know what happened... like i said, if they'd been able to pull that off i woulda given them an A or A+... but i'm not gonna hold that against them because it didn't.
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