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6/26/2008  11:48 PM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by oohah:
What don't you like about Morrison and Felton?

Felton is a walking injury and Morrison just straight up sucks.

oohah

What kind of walking injury misses about 7 games in 3 seasons?

I am confusng him with another player. However, he still doesn't excite me enough to give up Lee, and Ammo blows.

I would entertain a lot of offers for Lee though. If we could package him with Crawford and get a stud SG that would be sweet.

Kevin Martin?

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6/26/2008  11:51 PM
If Portland is really an option, do you think them trading for Jerryd Bayless from Indiana could play a role in a Lee trade?
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6/26/2008  11:52 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

If Portland is really an option, do you think them trading for Jerryd Bayless from Indiana could play a role in a Lee trade?



They can't trade Blake, Bayless and Jack....
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6/26/2008  11:55 PM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by nyk4ever:

If Portland is really an option, do you think them trading for Jerryd Bayless from Indiana could play a role in a Lee trade?



They can't trade Blake, Bayless and Jack....

Well if we were getting Bayless, I wouldn't expect them to trade us Blake as well. I just don't see how Bayless fits with that team. They need a pure PG to play with the scorers on that team and Bayless isn't the most pure PG in this draft.

Bayless + Martell Webster for Malik and Lee.
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6/26/2008  11:55 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by nyk4ever:

If Portland is really an option, do you think them trading for Jerryd Bayless from Indiana could play a role in a Lee trade?



They can't trade Blake, Bayless and Jack....

Well if we were getting Bayless, I wouldn't expect them to trade us Blake as well. I just don't see how Bayless fits with that team. They need a pure PG to play with the scorers on that team and Bayless isn't the most pure PG in this draft.

Bayless + Martell Webster for Malik and Lee.

Yeah but as it stands now Blake is the only name that we have heard mentioned on the Portland side.
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6/27/2008  12:32 AM
Portlans has too many PGs in that team now. I hope they trade Sergio Rodriguez and rights to Dorsey for DLee.
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6/27/2008  12:34 AM
I hope they do this felton trade. He would be a big time up grade at the point........... this deal made sense to me before the draft even happened.
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6/27/2008  12:47 AM

I have seen felton in person a number of times and he is very good.

I don't think getting "excited" enough is really what should judge the trade.

Mike needs a guy with a certain tool set and this kid has enough of it to make it work.

You not gonna see a championship roster this year. I like lee alot, but him for felton would be a good start.

if not, get Duhan in here to back up Marbury.

sometimes its the little deals that add up.
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6/27/2008  12:48 AM
Duhon or Sasha for part of the MLE seems like a good fit to me.
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6/27/2008  6:51 AM
I don't know if I like this trade but I think you have to get D'Antoni players that fit what he wants to do if he is going to have any chance at being successful. I think he really wanted a guard in the draft and another voice (Isiah?) decided who the Knicks picked. Brown knows how good Lee is and I am sure he would love to have him.
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6/27/2008  8:44 AM
Posted by NYKBocker:

Portlans has too many PGs in that team now. I hope they trade Sergio Rodriguez and rights to Dorsey for DLee.

This wouldn't be bad NYKBocker. I want no part of Steve Blake --- he's a backup, we can do better than that. We need better than that. I would do this Felton for Lee thing, not sure Charlotte would...

The only 2 players I really bother with in fre agency are Justin Williams and Louis Amundson, esp. if we wind up dealing Lee. Both of these guys can really add some hustle and defense on the cheap.
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6/27/2008  9:01 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by nyk4ever:

If Portland is really an option, do you think them trading for Jerryd Bayless from Indiana could play a role in a Lee trade?



They can't trade Blake, Bayless and Jack....

Well if we were getting Bayless, I wouldn't expect them to trade us Blake as well. I just don't see how Bayless fits with that team. They need a pure PG to play with the scorers on that team and Bayless isn't the most pure PG in this draft.

Bayless + Martell Webster for Malik and Lee.

Bayless is a perfect pick for them. They need shooting to stretch the defense. They don't need a pure playmaker as much because they have a post offense with Brandon Roy who can initiate offense himself and create his own shot. Bayless is a perfect perfect fit for them.

The reason they'll look to move Blake to us is that they have Bayless and Sergio. The question is, do they have anything along with Blake that we want? They just got Dorsey and Darrell Arthur. Lee for Arthur and Blake is starting to become a fair trade.

If we're moving Lee, I'd prefer to call Memphis and investigate Lowry and Warrick for Lee. I don't know though, there may be some truth to Lee telling Memphis he doesn't want to play there.

edit: I'd pursue Sergio and Darrell Arthur. But does Portland even want Lee with Arthur in the fold?

[Edited by - crzymdups on 27-06-2008 09:02 AM]
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6/27/2008  9:01 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by nyk4ever:

If Portland is really an option, do you think them trading for Jerryd Bayless from Indiana could play a role in a Lee trade?



They can't trade Blake, Bayless and Jack....

Well if we were getting Bayless, I wouldn't expect them to trade us Blake as well. I just don't see how Bayless fits with that team. They need a pure PG to play with the scorers on that team and Bayless isn't the most pure PG in this draft.

Bayless + Martell Webster for Malik and Lee.

Portland's coaching staff feels they are at their best with Roy orchestrating.
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6/27/2008  11:04 AM
Posted by VDesai:

Felton is a damn good player. An unselfish, quick PG who can dicatate the pace. Nice A/TO- he'd be an awesome get. Lee/Balkman for Felton is a trade I'd do....

felton is also a very poor shooter: 39/38/41 fg% with a poor assist:turnover ratio.

and the one thing we've seen with d'antoni is that he can not develop a pg. nash was already a high caliber pg. but banks and barbosa, he couldn't make into ones.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-27-2008 11:07 AM]
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6/27/2008  12:02 PM
This would be a decent but not great trade. It would at least balance the roster assuming we buyout Marbury. Felton is a better pg than Nate.
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6/27/2008  12:05 PM
i would rather have lee + bayless than gallinari + felton.


i would focus on memphis. I want lowry and warrick for lee. they did acquire darrell arthur, but they also have FOUR pgs. get Lowry. maybe lowry and arthur for lee if they don't want to give up warrick.



[Edited by - crzymdups on 27-06-2008 12:05 PM]
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6/27/2008  12:08 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by VDesai:

Felton is a damn good player. An unselfish, quick PG who can dicatate the pace. Nice A/TO- he'd be an awesome get. Lee/Balkman for Felton is a trade I'd do....

felton is also a very poor shooter: 39/38/41 fg% with a poor assist:turnover ratio.

and the one thing we've seen with d'antoni is that he can not develop a pg. nash was already a high caliber pg. but banks and barbosa, he couldn't make into ones.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-27-2008 11:07 AM]


He isn't a guy that requires a lot of shots though- and I think he'd be a lot more efficient play at this kind of pace.

As high caliber as Nash was, playing D'Antoni's system increased his assists by about 50%. His FG% also shot up.

As far as developing Barbosa, at some point he was asked to focus on scoring.
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6/27/2008  12:09 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by VDesai:

Felton is a damn good player. An unselfish, quick PG who can dicatate the pace. Nice A/TO- he'd be an awesome get. Lee/Balkman for Felton is a trade I'd do....

felton is also a very poor shooter: 39/38/41 fg% with a poor assist:turnover ratio.

and the one thing we've seen with d'antoni is that he can not develop a pg. nash was already a high caliber pg. but banks and barbosa, he couldn't make into ones.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-27-2008 11:07 AM]

Nash wasn't an MVP type talent until he played for D'Antoni. Spin it however you want, but give D'antoni credit. Barbosa is what he is and produced for D'Antoni.
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6/27/2008  12:12 PM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by VDesai:

Felton is a damn good player. An unselfish, quick PG who can dicatate the pace. Nice A/TO- he'd be an awesome get. Lee/Balkman for Felton is a trade I'd do....

felton is also a very poor shooter: 39/38/41 fg% with a poor assist:turnover ratio.

and the one thing we've seen with d'antoni is that he can not develop a pg. nash was already a high caliber pg. but banks and barbosa, he couldn't make into ones.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-27-2008 11:07 AM]


He isn't a guy that requires a lot of shots though- and I think he'd be a lot more efficient play at this kind of pace.

As high caliber as Nash was, playing D'Antoni's system increased his assists by about 50%. His FG% also shot up.

As far as developing Barbosa, at some point he was asked to focus on scoring.

the nash thing was b/c of the increased pace. if the mavericks didn't have dirk, they would be more up and down which would increase nash's assist #'s.

they tried barbosa at the point, and after that failed, they asked him to concentrate on scoring. and he was about to do the same thing with steph.
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6/27/2008  12:14 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by VDesai:

Felton is a damn good player. An unselfish, quick PG who can dicatate the pace. Nice A/TO- he'd be an awesome get. Lee/Balkman for Felton is a trade I'd do....

felton is also a very poor shooter: 39/38/41 fg% with a poor assist:turnover ratio.

and the one thing we've seen with d'antoni is that he can not develop a pg. nash was already a high caliber pg. but banks and barbosa, he couldn't make into ones.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 06-27-2008 11:07 AM]


He isn't a guy that requires a lot of shots though- and I think he'd be a lot more efficient play at this kind of pace.

As high caliber as Nash was, playing D'Antoni's system increased his assists by about 50%. His FG% also shot up.

As far as developing Barbosa, at some point he was asked to focus on scoring.

the nash thing was b/c of the increased pace. if the mavericks didn't have dirk, they would be more up and down which would increase nash's assist #'s.

they tried barbosa at the point, and after that failed, they asked him to concentrate on scoring. and he was about to do the same thing with steph.

sometimes you can't turn scorers into PGs? Maybe why Knicks passed on Bayless, Gordon.
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