Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by fishmike:

Brad Miller is probably a very good comparison. Miller is a tough dude

Miller is a lot taller than Love though.

Exactly. Miller is a true center. Love isn't close at under 6'8 in socks.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by fishmike:

Brad Miller is probably a very good comparison. Miller is a tough dude

Miller is a lot taller than Love though.

Exactly. Miller is a true center. Love isn't close at under 6'8 in socks.

Love is a Power Forward and now, that he lost some weight, he seems to have the quickness to do so! This in addition to his excellent range, passing skill and intelligence (plus his extraordinaire low-post skills against regular PFs) will give him a legit position in the NBA at the 4!!!

Hahaha nyny!!! Right you know I was working all day, so I thought "Well whatever... I can as well just try!"

Posted by newyorknewyork:

Posted by dodger78:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by crzymdups:

Posted by fishmike:

Brad Miller is probably a very good comparison. Miller is a tough dude

Miller is a lot taller than Love though.

Exactly. Miller is a true center. Love isn't close at under 6'8 in socks.

Love is a Power Forward and now, that he lost some weight, he seems to have the quickness to do so! This in addition to his excellent range, passing skill and intelligence (plus his extraordinaire low-post skills against regular PFs) will give him a legit position in the NBA at the 4!!!

There is no point even argueing Dodger78, Isles made up his mind, there is no logic you can come up with that will change it.

When he makes comments like "Channing Frye put up similar numbers in college" & "He is 6'8 in socks" its not worth your time.

Yeah, just because everything I said was true makes it illogical.

Hes got basically same height as Ronny Turiaf, I see nobody complaining about his height!!! Also he is strong and skilled down low! Plus hes got a WAY better shot! I think the biggest knock on him is that people still see him as slow for his position (4) which actually, because of his play at UCLA. Since then though, he has lost 15 pounds is in GREAT shape an EVERYBODY who saw him in the workouts seems to be fine with his quickness!!!
So this argument is none for me.

i also heard eddy curry lost 15lbs this summer. his lane agility is really improving. though to be fair, they baited each side of the lane with double cheeseburgers.

If thats true about Curry then all he would need is Love's intensity, charisma, feel for the game, fundamentals, passing ability, shooting ability, ball handling (for his size), rebounding and we may have something.

Love's college stats(including tournament) 17.4pts, 10.9rebs, 1.9stls, 1.1blks, 57% shooting 74%ft shooting(i think).

Love is known as a skilled, high IQ, intense, winning attitude type of player as a 19yr old freshman, the knock on him was he was short & slow and was ranked around #15 in most mock drafts.

Neither are Kevin Love’s- 6-7 ¾ without shoes, 6-11 ¼ wingspan, 8-10 standing reach and solid all-around combine numbers are probably better than most people initially anticipated.

Kevin Love
(Socks)6' 7.75"
(Shoes)6' 9.5" 255
(wingspan)6' 11.25"
(standing reach)8' 10"
(body fat)12.9
(no step vert)29.5
(max vert)35.0
(bench press)18
(lane agility)11.17
(3/4 court sprint)3.22

The guy loses 15pds and puts up very very solid *all around* measurments in size, vert, agility, sppeed, strength. Now add that with his skill, Iq, strength, attitude, intensity. Yet I and many others are wrong to get excited about this combination.

He moved up from #15 to top 6 pick by his workouts, scouts, gms, coaches who are physically there watching him workout. But I am supposed to ignore all of his measurements which is solid across the board. Ignore the fact that we don't know what he looks like in workouts and playing 15pds lighter, ignore that scouts, gms, coaches raving about his workouts enough to move him 10spots higher then first projected. And base my opinion one what he did at UCLA 15pds heavier as a 19yr old freshman. Not to mention he was great at UCLA leading them to the final four.

Im sorry but we are going to have to agree to disagree.

Posted by newyorknewyork:

If thats true about Curry then all he would need is Love's intensity, charisma, feel for the game, fundamentals, passing ability, shooting ability, ball handling (for his size), rebounding and we may have something.

Love's college stats(including tournament) 17.4pts, 10.9rebs, 1.9stls, 1.1blks, 57% shooting 74%ft shooting(i think).

Love is known as a skilled, high IQ, intense, winning attitude type of player as a 19yr old freshman, the knock on him was he was short & slow and was ranked around #15 in most mock drafts.

Neither are Kevin Love’s- 6-7 ¾ without shoes, 6-11 ¼ wingspan, 8-10 standing reach and solid all-around combine numbers are probably better than most people initially anticipated.

Kevin Love
(Socks)6' 7.75"
(Shoes)6' 9.5" 255
(wingspan)6' 11.25"
(standing reach)8' 10"
(body fat)12.9
(no step vert)29.5
(max vert)35.0
(bench press)18
(lane agility)11.17
(3/4 court sprint)3.22

The guy loses 15pds and puts up very very solid *all around* measurments in size, vert, agility, sppeed, strength. Now add that with his skill, Iq, strength, attitude, intensity. Yet I and many others are wrong to get excited about this combination.

He moved up from #15 to top 6 pick by his workouts, scouts, gms, coaches who are physically there watching him workout. But I am supposed to ignore all of his measurements which is solid across the board. Ignore the fact that we don't know what he looks like in workouts and playing 15pds lighter, ignore that scouts, gms, coaches raving about his workouts enough to move him 10spots higher then first projected. And base my opinion one what he did at UCLA 15pds heavier as a 19yr old freshman. Not to mention he was great at UCLA leading them to the final four.

Im sorry but we are going to have to agree to disagree.

Valid points on both sides of this argument...

If Love was a great athlete the strengths of the rest of his game would make him a sure fire top 5 but the fact is he doesn't look great running up and down the court and that scares people. That's what makes the Love situation so intriguing - if you take him high and his body and size don't translate you get killed but if you pass on the kid and he's able to work around the slow, plodding, under-size concerns than you are a stupid mo-fo to your fans.

I like Love but concerning the Knicks I'd feel better if he were playing along side a more athletic, defensive minded center than our dear old resident fat man and free lay-up giver to all who venture into the lane - EDDY CURRRRRRY!