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Donaghy: Refs fixed playoff series, other games
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djsunyc
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6/12/2008  1:27 PM
how do you think players are reacting to this news? they probably can't say anything...
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6/12/2008  1:32 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

how do you think players are reacting to this news? they probably can't say anything...

Everyone has already been contacted. If they don't want to end up in the Railroad Cars from the United Police States and shipped off to some remote area to march to death they're going to keep their mouth closed or gloss it over and act like it's not a big deal.


The cat is officially out of the bag. Stern has ran a Fake league for at least a decade if not double this.
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6/12/2008  1:32 PM
Pollard did initially but then he got a call from one of Stern's goons and now he's lightening up.

The FBI should be investigating Stern.
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6/12/2008  1:37 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Pollard did initially but then he got a call from one of Stern's goons and now he's lightening up.

The FBI should be investigating Stern.

Stern runs the FBI.

We need more Snitches so cases can be put on Stern and all his Bishes.
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6/12/2008  1:43 PM
The best was Stern saying on Tuesday that the League and the FBI investigated all of Donaghy's recent claims and found them to be false. Then yesterday Bob Delaney said that he has never been contacted by NBA or federal investigators concerning allegations by Tim Donaghy that two referees in that game intended to assure that series went seven games.

Stern is a liar. Why does he want $1M in restitution for a League investigation that obviously never took place?
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6/12/2008  1:50 PM
Posted by islesfan:

The best was Stern saying on Tuesday that the League and the FBI investigated all of Donaghy's recent claims and found them to be false. Then yesterday Bob Delaney said that he has never been contacted by NBA or federal investigators concerning allegations by Tim Donaghy that two referees in that game intended to assure that series went seven games.

Stern is a liar. Why does he want $1M in restitution for a League investigation that obviously never took place?



I love how he smiles and comes across like it's just some bum off the street pointing fingers at him. His comment "Donaghy is throwing things out there and hoping that they'll stick when they aren't." This is an open admission "I need to work fast and find a way to muzzle my former Crooked little sheep."
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6/12/2008  1:57 PM


stern laughing it off and van gundy with his balls in a vice...
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6/12/2008  1:58 PM
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Posted by islesfan:

The best was Stern saying on Tuesday that the League and the FBI investigated all of Donaghy's recent claims and found them to be false. Then yesterday Bob Delaney said that he has never been contacted by NBA or federal investigators concerning allegations by Tim Donaghy that two referees in that game intended to assure that series went seven games.

Stern is a liar. Why does he want $1M in restitution for a League investigation that obviously never took place?



I love how he smiles and comes across like it's just some bum off the street pointing fingers at him. His comment "Donaghy is throwing things out there and hoping that they'll stick when they aren't." This is an open admission "I need to work fast and find a way to muzzle my former Crooked little sheep."

Stern is an arrogant, obnoxious prick. He has no intention of fixing the problem. That problem has helped his league grow and got him an 8 figure yearly paycheck. Instead he's going to keep harping on the messenger and telling everyone who will listen that "the Rogue Ref" was an isolated incident and that all of his claims must be bogus because he's a criminal. Of course, that "Rogue Ref" wasn't caught by the NBA or the FBI but was ratted out by a fellow criminal. Stern didn't bother to learn the facts before he took that criminals accusation and ran with it.
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david aldridge after game 6
And then comes a game like Friday's Game 6 of the Western Conference finals. There is nothing I can say that will explain 27 free throws for the Lakers in the fourth quarter -- an amount staggering in its volume and impact on the game. It gave me pause. How can you explain it? How can you explain a game where Scot Pollard fouls out when he's two feet from Shaquille O'Neal, or that Doug Christie is called for a ridiculous touch foul just as Chris Webber spikes Kobe Bryant's drive to the hoop, or that Mike Bibby is called for a foul deep in the fourth quarter after Bryant pops him in the nose with an elbow? Regardless of whether the fouls were called correctly or not, they put a black mark on what has been as compelling, dramatic and well-played of a series as I can recall in recent years.

What gives one pause, though, is not that these fouls were called against the Kings in this one game. The pause comes because these fouls were called against the Kings in Los Angeles two days after O'Neal fouled out of Game 5 in Sacramento -- the same game in which Bryant was saddled with five fouls. How can consecutive games be called so diametrically opposite -- with such dramatic differences in the impact on the respective teams?.....

After Game 6, I went out to dinner in L.A. with a couple of sportswriters and three or four other folks who aren't in the business. Each one of us at the table had a college degree. None of us had a dog in this Lakers-Kings fight. But us Sports Guys wanted to see if we were overreacting. So we asked the woman with the business degree who has season tickets to an NBA team (not the Lakers, not the Kings) what her immediate reaction was after watching Friday.

"They stole the game from the Kings," she said, matter of factly.

The next morning, I call for a bellman for help with the bags. The door is open five seconds when he says, and I'm paraphrasing here because I don't generally quote bellmen, "What was up with that game last night? I mean, I'm a Laker fan, so I appreciate the calls. But I don't want to win that way. It was like Chris Webber was saying, 'I can't win, so why should I play hard?' "

Which, if the bellman had been in the Kings' locker room on Friday, was exactly the demeanor he would have seen from Webber. His lip was literally quivering, he was so angry. He spoke in guarded tones about how "we're still the Sacramento Kings" and how he had been told it would be impossible to beat the Lakers Friday. "I was warned," he muttered. Twenty feet away, Vlade Divac was asked if he played O'Neal any differently than he had the first five games. "Of course," Divac s
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6/12/2008  2:13 PM
Posted by djsunyc:



stern laughing it off and van gundy with his balls in a vice...

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6/12/2008  2:15 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

david aldridge after game 6
And then comes a game like Friday's Game 6 of the Western Conference finals. There is nothing I can say that will explain 27 free throws for the Lakers in the fourth quarter -- an amount staggering in its volume and impact on the game. It gave me pause. How can you explain it? How can you explain a game where Scot Pollard fouls out when he's two feet from Shaquille O'Neal, or that Doug Christie is called for a ridiculous touch foul just as Chris Webber spikes Kobe Bryant's drive to the hoop, or that Mike Bibby is called for a foul deep in the fourth quarter after Bryant pops him in the nose with an elbow? Regardless of whether the fouls were called correctly or not, they put a black mark on what has been as compelling, dramatic and well-played of a series as I can recall in recent years.

What gives one pause, though, is not that these fouls were called against the Kings in this one game. The pause comes because these fouls were called against the Kings in Los Angeles two days after O'Neal fouled out of Game 5 in Sacramento -- the same game in which Bryant was saddled with five fouls. How can consecutive games be called so diametrically opposite -- with such dramatic differences in the impact on the respective teams?.....

After Game 6, I went out to dinner in L.A. with a couple of sportswriters and three or four other folks who aren't in the business. Each one of us at the table had a college degree. None of us had a dog in this Lakers-Kings fight. But us Sports Guys wanted to see if we were overreacting. So we asked the woman with the business degree who has season tickets to an NBA team (not the Lakers, not the Kings) what her immediate reaction was after watching Friday.

"They stole the game from the Kings," she said, matter of factly.

The next morning, I call for a bellman for help with the bags. The door is open five seconds when he says, and I'm paraphrasing here because I don't generally quote bellmen, "What was up with that game last night? I mean, I'm a Laker fan, so I appreciate the calls. But I don't want to win that way. It was like Chris Webber was saying, 'I can't win, so why should I play hard?' "

Which, if the bellman had been in the Kings' locker room on Friday, was exactly the demeanor he would have seen from Webber. His lip was literally quivering, he was so angry. He spoke in guarded tones about how "we're still the Sacramento Kings" and how he had been told it would be impossible to beat the Lakers Friday. "I was warned," he muttered. Twenty feet away, Vlade Divac was asked if he played O'Neal any differently than he had the first five games. "Of course," Divac s

A lot of writers have reposted their game 6 columns and there weren't any that could explain what happened. These were all veteran basketball writers who have covered thousands upon thousands of games and not a single one had ever seen anything like it. Refereeing crews have had bad games before but nothing like this. If the fix wasn't in, then what happened?
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6/12/2008  2:19 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by islesfan:

The best was Stern saying on Tuesday that the League and the FBI investigated all of Donaghy's recent claims and found them to be false. Then yesterday Bob Delaney said that he has never been contacted by NBA or federal investigators concerning allegations by Tim Donaghy that two referees in that game intended to assure that series went seven games.

Stern is a liar. Why does he want $1M in restitution for a League investigation that obviously never took place?



I love how he smiles and comes across like it's just some bum off the street pointing fingers at him. His comment "Donaghy is throwing things out there and hoping that they'll stick when they aren't." This is an open admission "I need to work fast and find a way to muzzle my former Crooked little sheep."

Stern is an arrogant, obnoxious prick. He has no intention of fixing the problem. That problem has helped his league grow and got him an 8 figure yearly paycheck. Instead he's going to keep harping on the messenger and telling everyone who will listen that "the Rogue Ref" was an isolated incident and that all of his claims must be bogus because he's a criminal. Of course, that "Rogue Ref" wasn't caught by the NBA or the FBI but was ratted out by a fellow criminal. Stern didn't bother to learn the facts before he took that criminals accusation and ran with it.


No doubt about it he has no intention of changing gimmicking the league but he'll Concentration Camp anyone he so chooses if they get in his way of FAKERY. Even if they happened to be in his Gustapo. I love the fact also he got the series he wanted with the Lakers vs Celtics matchup but guess what.......

Now Bob Ryan takes a dig in the second part of the column for the 1973 series against the Celtics but regardless it's part of the feelings from every coast
LOS ANGELES - You think David Stern liked the headline he saw on Page A1 of yesterday's Los Angeles Times?

Or this one on the front page of the New York Post?

FOUL PLAY

Tim Donaghy strikes again.

Stern had hoped that Donaghy would remain last summer's news, and that once the individual Stern had referred to as the "rogue official" was sentenced, the incident would fade from public memory. But Donaghy is not slinking off to prison quietly. He surfaced again Tuesday with written allegations that other unnamed NBA officials were guilty of everything from the contractual violation of fraternization with team players and executives to the disturbing act of manipulating a playoff game to ensure a specific outcome and thus a seven-game series.

Stern's response? He has chosen the "consider the source" defense. Stern's public view is that Donaghy is engaged in a desperate attempt to get a lighter sentence, although how implicating others in the commission of unconnected acts to his might inspire a judge to lighten his sentence is unclear.

"Pretty much he's a singing, cooperating witness who's trying to get as light a sentence as he can," Stern suggested. "He turned on basically all of his colleagues in an attempt to demonstrate that he was not the only one who engaged in criminal activity."

Stern went on to describe Donaghy as a "convicted felon who really violated the most sacred trust in sports."

But throw out the "convicted felon" part and that is precisely what Donaghy alleges certain referees had done in at least one recent playoff game: violate the "most sacred trust in sports." Namely, the idea that every NBA game is 100 percent honestly officiated so as not to favor one team at the expense of the other.

The circumstances Donaghy described left no doubt that the game in question was Game 6 of the 2002 Western Conference finals, a 106-102 Laker triumph over the Sacramento Kings at Staples Center.

This is the most controversial game of the decade, a game that left a distinctly negative impression on just about everyone who covered it, many of whom are here for the NBA Finals. It was even a topic of conversation before the Donaghy allegations.

As soon as Phil Jackson began complaining about the officiating following Game 2 of this series, many Western Conference observers began smirking, wondering if he had forgotten about the officiating largesse that handed his team that season-saving win against the Kings. In that game, the Lakers shot 27 free throws - in the fourth quarter. And that's not even the half of it.

There were obvious makeup calls and non-calls, such as a no-call elbow Kobe Bryant deposited to the nose of Sacramento guard Mike Bibby prior to receiving a pass, and subsequently being awarded two free throws late in the game. Bibby, gauze stuck in his nose to stem the bleeding, misfired on Sacramento's last shot.


The referees in question were Dick Bavetta, Bob Delaney, and Ted Bernhardt, the first two considered to be elite officials and the last one pretty much just another guy. (Bavetta worked Game 1 of the Celtics-Lakers series, and Delaney will surely see action before its conclusion.)

Donaghy's allegations resonated, as you might suspect, in Sacramento, where yesterday's Page 1 headline of The Sacramento Bee was EX-REF: KINGS WERE ROBBED.

This game is hanging out there now, and David Stern cannot ignore it. He cannot fall back on his "consider the source" mantra any longer. He must do better than that. People need to hear him say something about the game in question. He's got to get on the record. He's acting much too smug and arrogant.

We who love the game of basketball realize there is no stickier topic than officiating. Referees are vital. They determine who will play and how the game will be played. They're in a position to hand points to one team or the other. People are resigned to incompetence, but the question of honesty must never be raised.

Conspiratorial thinkers abound. They may be gamblers, or they may simply be suspicious people who don't trust authority figures. Every basketball writer alive knows that when a game he or she has covered involves controversial officiating, at least one e-mail claiming that the fix is in will be received. People are reluctant to accept human frailty as a reason for a bad call.

It is far easier to assume something far more sinister.

The fourth-quarter officiating of this infamous 2002 Western Conference finals Game 6 was so extreme in its apparent favoritism toward the Lakers that it even attracted the attention of - I'm not making this up - Ralph Nader, who called for an investigation. So, call this game the Corvair of playoff games, if you like.

I have seen some weird games, for sure. Jackson himself was part of the most notable miscarriage of justice against the Celtics in my four decades of coverage, that being the celebrated 1973 Celtics-Knicks Game 4 of the Eastern Conference finals, when, with the Celtics leading by 16 entering the fourth quarter, Jack Madden and Jake O'Donnell might as well have put on Knicks uniforms as New York erased that deficit and eventually won in two overtimes to take control of that series. Being much younger and not quite as, ahem, seasoned (or reasoned) as I like to think I am now, I wondered aloud if the NBA wished for a New York victory. And I was surely not alone.

I stopped believing that a long time ago. I wound up attributing what we all saw to something I like to call "subconscious crowd orchestration," the willingness of an official to give the home crowd what it wants without even knowing it. Jackson alluded to something very much like that only yesterday when, in reference to the behavior of officials, he spoke of "all the things that go into making us human beings lemmings, which we are . . . "

We'll never get beyond that because we're talking about human beings. Even the best officials sometimes cannot stop themselves from orchestrating a home crowd.

So, what happened at Staples Center on the evening of May 31, 2002? How could that game have been adjudicated in such a bizarre manner? That's the question, and David Stern needs to stop beating up on Tim Donaghy and respond to the very serious allegations he has made about that game.

Look at those headlines. They are not advertisements for NBA basketball.
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6/12/2008  2:27 PM
And then this...
Through three games, ABC has gotten a 52 percent viewership increase over last season's Cleveland-San Antonio NBA Finals, but the ratings have not come close to matching those from the 2004 NBA Finals between Detroit and the Lakers.

So not only is he facing allegations amidst his Finals dream matchup but this Finals hasn't even produced more interest than from 4yrs ago. People rather watch the boring Pistons go against a Kobe/Shaq/Jackson fued than be entertained by the greatest rival in basketball history amongst the Top 3 largest markets in the NBA(which is what's saving this series because it sure hasn't be entertaining and Kobe sure isn't Jordan). That's all Stern needs to know about how bad his league is.

All I can say is THANK YOU to TD for the timeliness it couldn't have come at a better moment.
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Good job with this video DJ!!! Excellent camera work, editing and overall production. Looking forward to more official exclusive DJ content

this one i will take credit for...
Donaghy: Refs fixed playoff series, other games

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