Chad Ford already has his first mock draft out
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LivingLegend
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5/21/2008 2:22 PM
Posted by TMS:Posted by islesfan:Posted by TMS:Posted by islesfan: I don't like what I see from Gallinari. I've liked other Euro players so its not so much a euro thing but I don't like the athleticism I see on film. He struggles to get by people and often is throwing up these off balance bail out shots. I don't see a great rebounder, passer or ball handler. I see a slow guy with a solid offensive game. He doesn't look like a pure 4 so you have this whole - 3/4 thing and he doesn't look like he can play 3s on defense. If he's a 4 - I don't think he'll rebound or block shots. I just don't like what I see on film. |
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TrueBlue
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5/21/2008 2:25 PM
Posted by LivingLegend:Posted by TMS:Posted by islesfan:Posted by TMS:Posted by islesfan: + Infinity If you watch Youtubes of Barg's when in Europe and DG at the same time there's zero degrees of separation in terms of talent level. Barg's a two pro who's damn near BUSTED. DG from what I can see isn't anything special and I refuse to drink the FOOL-AID! [Edited by - TrueBlue on 05-21-2008 1:26 PM] LMFAO @ the Bio [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephon_Marbury[/url]
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TMS
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5/21/2008 2:44 PM
Posted by LivingLegend:Posted by TMS:Posted by islesfan:Posted by TMS:Posted by islesfan: fair enough even tho i disagree with you on the ballhandling & athleticism part... from the clips i've seen he seems to have a solid handle & looks like he's got pretty nice athletic ability... i also like his instincts on backdoor cuts, he knows when to break to the hole & has the ability to finish... i also heard isles say this kid plays soft & that he's not a great shooter from the outside... doesn't seem that way to me from the clips i've watched... here's just 1 example: anyway, thanks for at least offering up some better explanations than isles did on why you don't like the idea of drafting this kid... i can understand why you might feel he jacks up off balance shots but the moments in that clip seemed like broken plays or times when the shotclock may have been running down & yet he was still able to make the shot. [Edited by - TMS on 05-21-2008 11:45 AM] After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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Bonn1997
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5/21/2008 3:08 PM
Posted by TMS:Actually that highlight film does not impress me. Compared to good NBA players, he dribbles too high and it looks like he's moving in slow motion when he's dribbling.Posted by LivingLegend:Posted by TMS:Posted by islesfan:Posted by TMS:Posted by islesfan: |
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TMS
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5/21/2008 6:11 PM
soft i tell ya... clearly afraid to drive to the hole & put one down on a guy.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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Allanfan20
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5/21/2008 6:12 PM
Based on that youtube clip, and that clip alone, his game looks very similar to Keith Van Horns (When he's playing well obviously) and Allan Houston's. Moves well without the ball, relies on the jumper, but can shoot anywhere on the court, and can take it to the rack when he needs to. That clip shows absolutely nothing about his defense though. But then again, it's only a few highlites of his offensive game, so maybe he's nowhere close to H20 and KVH. In terms of the offense though, he'd fit very nicely in an uptempo game, but we'd still need a PG.
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TMS
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5/21/2008 6:15 PM
Posted by Bonn1997: what does that mean Bonn? the guy's 6'9", where do u expect him to dribble the ball, down by his ankles? Dirk dribbles the ball high too, what does that prove? he's a great ballhandler for a guy his size... i'm not trying to bash on ya but if you look at the clips of him he's got the handle to get to the hole & is able to bring the ball upcourt on a fastbreak... what more do you want from a SF? we're not trying to analyze a PG here. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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TMS
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5/21/2008 6:17 PM
Posted by Allanfan20: it shows him blocking a shot, getting a steal on a hustle play, & another using his length for another steal on an inbounds pass... it's sorta hard to find clips of guys playing defense on YouTube for a lotta guys... doesn't mean they don't play any D... i'm not saying this kid is a defensive wiz but i fail to see how someone can say he plays none based on highlight clips... that's why i asked if isles had actually seen this kid play... that's the only real way to tell if he plays defense or not, much less plays soft. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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Chad Ford already has his first mock draft out