Posted by Bonn1997:

What's your point? Who said he was untouchable anyway?

Everybody who freaks out when someone else suggests that Lee be traded.

Softly it was suggested by a minority Lee should be coupled with unwanted contracts in possible trades and quite a few blew their gasket over the idea.

I think that was before anyone knew Walsh was coming and getting under the salary cap was a possibility.

Saying things like Lee's "Untouchable", "A Keeper", "Lone Bright Spot On Team", "Hard To Find Double Double Guy".

Untouchable is entirely different from all those other phrases. He is a keeper (i.e., someone I'd like to keep) and it is hard to find double double guys. I don't think you can lump untouchable in with those other comments.

Even in this thread it was noted if he's lost it would be a setback.

Also entirely different from untouchable. He's a nice player. So losing him without getting anything in return (i.e., to free agency) is a set back. I don't know if you watch baseball, but I might put him at the same level as Melky Cabrera on the Yankees. Losing him for nothing would be a significant set-back to the Yankees. They'd have to play the aging Damon who can't throw in CF every day. But Melky is not remotely close to untouchable.

It seems to me like you and bitty are on a mission to downplay anything positive about David Lee just because he's associated with an awful GM (and also in Bitty's case Lee's more popular than her dream man). I think even the worst GMs don't bat .000 but maybe closer to .100 and this was one of those rare instances where Isiah got a nice player.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Softly it was suggested by a minority Lee should be coupled with unwanted contracts in possible trades and quite a few blew their gasket over the idea.

I think that was before anyone knew Walsh was coming and getting under the salary cap was a possibility.

Saying things like Lee's "Untouchable", "A Keeper", "Lone Bright Spot On Team", "Hard To Find Double Double Guy".

Untouchable is entirely different from all those other phrases. He is a keeper (i.e., someone I'd like to keep) and it is hard to find double double guys. I don't think you can lump untouchable in with those other comments.

Even in this thread it was noted if he's lost it would be a setback.

Also entirely different from untouchable. He's a nice player. So losing him without getting anything in return (i.e., to free agency) is a set back. I don't know if you watch baseball, but I might put him at the same level as Melky Cabrera on the Yankees. Losing him for nothing would be a significant set-back to the Yankees. They'd have to play the aging Damon who can't throw in CF every day. But Melky is not remotely close to untouchable.

It seems to me like you and bitty are on a mission to downplay anything positive about David Lee just because he's associated with an awful GM (and also in Bitty's case Lee's more popular than her dream man). I think even the worst GMs don't bat .000 but maybe closer to .100 and this was one of those rare instances where Isiah got a nice player.

You're making the wrong connection with words vs attaching those words/phrases to his salary. If Lee is any/majority/all of these as in...Untouchable, A Keeper, A Hard To Find Double Double Guy, A Steback, then he's worth more than $6-7mil/yr. The only phrase that may be a stretch to apply is A Keeper, but in context I think it's understood he's a player that's extremely valued and his pay should reflect such.

Lee agent is just talking. No way Lee is more then a 7-8million dollar contract at his best.

Posted by TrueBlue:

How can what most consider an untouchable player in David Lee be only worth $6-7mil?

I think this is a great point. People have been up in arms about the possibility of trading him unless it was for some superstar. Now the script is being flipped to David Lee is only worth 6,7 million.

I like Salomons but isn't he a shooting guard?

Just give Lee the qualifying offer next year and let him find a good contract, then decide whether to match it.

That's the smart business move.

Posted by djsunyc:

Posted by knicksbabyyeah:

Just give Lee the qualifying offer next year and let him find a good contract, then decide whether to match it.

That's the smart business move.

lee is only eligible for an extension this season. the knicks picked up his option for next year, therefore he can only start soliciting offers as a restricted free agent during the summer of 2009, not this summer. so no matter what, the knicks are not pressured to do anything this summer and have alot of the power next summer. but if lee is still on the team after next summer without an extension he will be playing on a qualified offer. a player playing on a qualified offer year can not be traded during the season, thus making him an unrestricted free agent in the summer of 2010.

I don't see Lee staying here under any circumstance barring injury playing at the QO salary. We definitely should wait until he becomes RF, that's for sure. When he does, 2 things will either happen....

We'll trade him with the garbage if we want to preserve our cap space

He'll sign an offer sheet we'll match

Slight error I was reminded of this a while back we can't S&T RFA.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 04-17-2008 4:46 PM]

Posted by King1:

You could get him for 7 or 8 this year and then 10 or 11 the next. Either sign him or trade him.

Will we have to put you on suicide watch if Lee is traded?