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Siar617
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4/8/2008  1:54 AM
I'll take rose
and his coach if posible
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TMS
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4/8/2008  5:33 AM
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by VDesai:

Rose is superior to Mayo

To me, they're neck and neck. Mayo has a better 2nd step and better balance on his drives. He also has a better shot of the dribble. Rose is more athletic and patient offensively.

Its a tough call. OJ is very sure in his role as a shooting guard and I think that focus has sped his development. Rose seems to get lost in traffic more frequently in the half-court and there is room for improvement there. Where they end up is tough to predict but OJ's mix of skills are slightly more impressive to me.

OJ's a year older than Rose so u should take that into account as well when comparing their development... most scouts project Rose to have the bigger upside from what i've been reading.
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4/8/2008  5:34 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BigSm00th:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by GKFv2:

LOl at calling Rose another Marbury.

Powerul drive right, predominantly offensive point guard. Anyway your boy lost don't fret too much. He'll be drafted very high if he declares. I just hope we don't draft him to be our point guard of the future.

i like how you discount his rebounding, defense, and ability. marbury never lost in a championship game. trueblue you are a pathetic miser man what would impress you? rose is a 19 year old freshman who played the best out of anyone on the floor. did you watch minutes 8 to 2 of the second half. rose scored 8 points in a row and brought memphis from down 4 to up 4. to say he's a "marbury clone" is embarassing and a beacon of not understanding basketball or holding some bizarre grudge against marbury. get over yourself.

Comparing him to Marbury isn't a bad thing in terms of talent. If a Marbury talent enters the draft this yr where does he go? Probably top 5 right? He's really an undersized 2 guard who needs clear outs and screens set for him to go right so he can do damage. His style of play is what I don't care for, from a point but the kid can ball and so can CDR and plenty of other players who appear to be entering the draft. Dozier was impressive also with his role play.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 04-07-2008 11:10 PM]

I used to think this assessment was crazy, but the more I watch Rose, he does play a lot like Marbury - they have a similar skill set (at least before Marbury started going downhill). The question is, can he carry himself like more of a professional and be more of a leader than Sourbury? He is bigger than Marbury, too, and a better rebounder. But he does a lot of the driving into traffic and leaving his feet that Marbury does, has the same suspect jumper. Anyway, I still like him better than most prospects in the draft. It's hard to project qualities like character and leadership from watching a game on TV - the real things that have kept Steph from making himself a great player. I hope Donnie can make the right call.


Now that makes about 4-5 posters in the recent week I've seen agree with this assessment. If you look at Rose's game Marbury's is the closest of current NBA point guards. Even if Marbury had his head on straight was he an NBA championship caliber point guard?

missing clutch FT's down the stretch definitely reminds me of Marbury, i'll give u that
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4/8/2008  5:36 AM
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by dodger78:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by BigSm00th:
Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by GKFv2:

CDR choking big time. What a crappy player.

Rose missed a key free throw too and in overtime absolutely did nothing. He's the kind of player if he isn't involved offensively he doesn't appear to impact the game much. Very much a Marbury clone.

Let's give credit to Chalmers, Collins, and Arthur. They all played a more fluid and solid game from start to finish.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 04-07-2008 10:56 PM]



i am honestly just embarassed by the negativity of some of the people on this board. disappeared down the stretch? he played forty five ****ing minutes being hounded by chalmers, russ robinson (rice HS), and sharron collins who played d-back in college for a year. to say rose chocked is ridiculous. CDR should've made the free throws, he's a junior and is their leader, rose absolutely CARRIED memphis for about 8 minutes and put them in the position to win the game, CDR should've iced those free throws


And CDR carried them in teh first half while Rose played Coy. It's a full game not an isolation of moments. Heck Rose according to most coasted in the first half so he had to of had some kind of energy hence he came out and played very well late 3rd and most of the 4rth fourth. CDR choked worst than Rose at the line but Rose still choked. Chalmers played 40min and had enough energy to hit an incredibly clutch shot which was heavily contested I'm sure he was tired too plus he iced all his free throws down the stretch.

So whats your point?!? You would prefer Mario Chalmers to wear a Knick uniform instead of Rose?!?


Did I say that?


GKF called CDR a crappy player and I responded with a post trying to show a little objectivity.


Do you agree that CDR is a crappy player?

Well I only picked up your comparisson of Rose's play and Chalmers' play...
To answer your question... no I really like CDR as a player and I think hell find a nice place for himself on an NBA team!!!
Him chucking with the FTs... thats where pressure kicks in and that has happend to the best... is he clutch?!? Well no I dont think so, but he is far from being a crappy player!
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