Posted by playa2:

Are you serious? That's like telling a SLAVE , that they can sharecrop ON MASSA'S plantation and take half of the money earned.
It ain't happening !

Posted by joec32033:

It's amazing no one ever created a thread or two that Isiah should go get JR Smith.

Posted by playa2:

No i'm talking about Rashad Lewis,Andrew Bynum, Monta Ellis, Thaddeus Young, Louis Williams Andrae Blatch, Amir Johnson etc ...


These guys are stars or future stars and only thaddeus Young got trapped by the ne rule.

But Martin my question to everyone is this.

Are european teenagers more mature tham american teenagers, if not is it because of the less income they make professionally in europe?

This is why the NBA could do the same with sending the young players to the New reformed NBDL. By limiting big salaries contracts with teenagers who aren't physically ready for the NBA. Coming straight out of highschool making a modest living while developing and learning how to manage money , but not too much at one time.

Posted by playa2:

Put Felipe Lopez in arural area and he doesn't recive all the hype on how great(can't miss) a player he is.
I haven't heard anyone answer my question yet.

Are European teenagers more mature than american teenagers.

Than why can european teengers make money(earn a living) and play professionally in the european enviorment, but american youths can't.

American youth must make money for a college institution who pulls in billions of dollars ,but the kid get penalized for receiving money thru a booster or family friend just to buy some clothers or eat a nice meal.

Posted by playa2:

Who do you think is providing all the cash for the university to help it expand and help out some of the minor sport programs, the Athletes or the Students?

Those who have no shot at playing pro whether overseason or minor leagues in the USA, must go get a degree. The American public school system is so bad , most of the inner city kids aren't properly prepared to go to college and study. Most A.D's are breaking rules with allowing these kids whether football or basketball qualify to play for their schools.

I remember The football player Dexter Manley couldn't read on a 6th grade level , but he went to college and went on to play pro football.

What did his free ride education for 4 years, room, board, side cash, tutors, pretty darn good coaching do for him . He learned how to read while in Prison.

The heck with the ncaa

Posted by playa2:

No martin , dexter should have been able to utilize all the fringe benefits you claim is for every student athelete an education. He was in a university with a six grade reading level , do you really think his college was concerned with his life after football or his ability to help them bring money to the school?

Posted by playa2:

Martin of course there are benefits for athletes while attending college.
All the women they want, parties where they are the shot, learning how to interact with diffrent kinds of people from all over the country.

Even people skills would be learned, for those who aren't college material.



But with the money they could make they can always go back to school and pay for it themselves without helping the school take away their good money they will eventually make 1st in minor league and then if they are good enough ,the NBA or go overseas for more money.

But like the young europeans, give america's youth a chance to do it in the united states of america, and if they need more cash and are not ready for the NBA -go overseas and make more money. but don't force them to go to college if they just want to be a professional basketball player.

Since most college kids aren't staying for 4 yrs to get this free education, give me some stats on how many guys finish 4 yrs of college and get a degree compared to those who just want to make money playing the sport of basketball like eddy curry. LOL

Let me know how many D-Leaguers are using the money they make to go back to school to finish their degree or even to pursue a new one.

I seriously still have no idea what you are arguing for here if we are talking about a realistic situation happening. The NCAA is here to stay and so is our system of college athletics. Because of it, more student-athletes are being put into a school situation than otherwise would if academics and economics were the driving forces behind getting into schools.

Let me put this into strict black and white terms for you playa (with some generalizations): If more minor league systems were around, they would pay their first year players very little, mostly likely D-League wages (~$30K a year, lets be generous and say $40K). They would lose their college eligibility because they are professional athletes. Realistically, outside of about 1-5% of those kids who are good enough to make it to a professional sport, all the rest would drop out and not have enough money to go to school afterwards (unless you think stashing the money away in CDs is happening versus the latest SUV purchase) and schools wouldn't want them now because of the lack of money and the lack of qualified education training.

You favor a system which would give a small group a kids a year or 2 of earning money before they hit it big time versus giving a large group of kids who wouldn't otherwise get the benefit of a being offered a university experience a chance they would not have?

In general, Playa hates student athletes who are getting a free ride. I am shooting myself in the foot by asking this next question: I wonder what the racial breakdown is for those students who are getting athletic scholarships?

Now, is the NCAA taking advantage of this system? Sure, they are milking it. Are they funneling the money back into the schools? Yes. Are they putting some in their pockets? Hell yeah.

Posted by playa2:

You forgot, do they care about the athlete after they leave their school...NO

Do they care if the athlete gets a degree..NO

Do they care if the kid comes from a poverty stricken background. NO


This is why I say what I say. Most of the guys who would go to the D.League would have major incentives just like a Jamario Moon at 27 finally made his mark in the association.

How many euros, domn't come to the NBA until they are older , while pocketing cash every yr as a teenager.

This is about economics, if the kid doesn't really possess College grades.

Why are schools falsifying college grades for some of these ball players and it isn't being reported as much as before?

Economics