Posted by islesfan:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by TrueBlue:

I'm enjoying watching Nate's time spent on the court run zero offense and chucking up shots in a game that was over 6:00min into the first qrt.


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-10-2008 9:41 PM]

wow... Marcus Williams puts up a 20 pt game & follows it up w/a donut the next game & i don't hear a peep outta you other than to say that u can't judge a young player like him on 2 game samples... meanwhile Nate puts up 45 in an OT game last night & follows it up w/this & all i hear out of you is derived sarcastic pleasure at witnessing his struggles on the floor... i think the point i made on that Marcus Williams thread about the double standards some of you regularly display when it comes to players on other teams has been pretty well demonstrated here.

[Edited by - TMS on 03-10-2008 8:27 PM]

The only acknowledgment Marcus was given in the thread started a couple weeks back by Isles was "Not A Bad Job" he did in place of Kidd. That's it. And then some agreed. Meanwhile Pres said he "Killed It" and stated "If we keep Nate should it change our draft approach?" IMO that's going a little bit too far particularly the second quoted stated question.

Don't expect TMS to figure out the double standard.

dude, u should be saying that about urself here... i was pretty fair on both counts.

Posted by TMS:

Nate scored 45... Marcus scored 20... i can understand why some might be more excited about Nate's game over Marcus'... no one proclaimed either to be an Allstar after 1 game... i don't see anything wrong w/what Pres said... Nate DID kill that game... he was pretty much unstoppable... if u don't agree with that you probably didn't watch the game... he also asked a legitimate question that he posed for hypothetical discussion... notice where he said "IF we keep Nate, SHOULD it change our draft approach"... i have a feeling he meant to get some objective discussion on the topic rather than being ridiculed for posting it... but that's been pretty much the norm around here these days... either you post a ridiculous thread like "I Hate Fred Jones' Face" that inspires absolutely no intelligent discussion whatsoever & be part of the "Knowledgeable Experts" inner circle, or you try & raise some legitimate questions about some of our players & get it thrown back in your face with some moronic half witted reply by someone who prides himself on trying to act intelligent on an internet message forum.

LOL You make Nate out to be LeBron in his 50 game. I saw Portland not even try to stop Nate from making layups as they protected a lead late in the game. I saw Nate jacking up shots and looking to get as many point as possible in OT.

Can you at least admit that the whole "Nate 45" game was completely overblown?

Posted by TMS:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by TrueBlue:

I'm enjoying watching Nate's time spent on the court run zero offense and chucking up shots in a game that was over 6:00min into the first qrt.


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-10-2008 9:41 PM]

wow... Marcus Williams puts up a 20 pt game & follows it up w/a donut the next game & i don't hear a peep outta you other than to say that u can't judge a young player like him on 2 game samples... meanwhile Nate puts up 45 in an OT game last night & follows it up w/this & all i hear out of you is derived sarcastic pleasure at witnessing his struggles on the floor... i think the point i made on that Marcus Williams thread about the double standards some of you regularly display when it comes to players on other teams has been pretty well demonstrated here.

[Edited by - TMS on 03-10-2008 8:27 PM]

The only acknowledgment Marcus was given in the thread started a couple weeks back by Isles was "Not A Bad Job" he did in place of Kidd. That's it. And then some agreed. Meanwhile Pres said he "Killed It" and stated "If we keep Nate should it change our draft approach?" IMO that's going a little bit too far particularly the second quoted stated question.

Don't expect TMS to figure out the double standard.

dude, u should be saying that about urself here... i was pretty fair on both counts.

Right, comparing the insane talk after Nate's game the other night to saying that Marcus wasn't bad and would do well backing up Harris is fair.

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by islesfan:

Posted by TMS:

Posted by TrueBlue:

I'm enjoying watching Nate's time spent on the court run zero offense and chucking up shots in a game that was over 6:00min into the first qrt.


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-10-2008 9:41 PM]

wow... Marcus Williams puts up a 20 pt game & follows it up w/a donut the next game & i don't hear a peep outta you other than to say that u can't judge a young player like him on 2 game samples... meanwhile Nate puts up 45 in an OT game last night & follows it up w/this & all i hear out of you is derived sarcastic pleasure at witnessing his struggles on the floor... i think the point i made on that Marcus Williams thread about the double standards some of you regularly display when it comes to players on other teams has been pretty well demonstrated here.

[Edited by - TMS on 03-10-2008 8:27 PM]

Where were the blow it out of proportion remarks about Marcus Williams, the way there were for Nate?

Marcus scored 20, Nate scored 45... big difference there i think, no? the point isn't that Marcus' game was unworthy of praise while Nate's was... the point is that you can't bring up a game like the one he had & give him props w/o doing the same for Nate when he goes crazy for 45... objectivity... it's not that hard to do, but i guess it is for some.

Please, my "props" for Nate would have looked like bashing compared to all the knob polishing going on.

As for my "props" for Marcus, I can see why you'd take my assessment, that he could do a good job backing up Devin Harris and learning how to be a PG, and blow it out of proportion.

yeah, keep twisting my words isles... i think we both pretty much agreed about Marcus' play in that thread & his potential to become a viable starter someday... but Nate goes off & scores 45 & people are labelled morons for even concieving of such a notion... there's objectivity for you.

Posted by TMS:

Nate scored 45... Marcus scored 20... i can understand why some might be more excited about Nate's game over Marcus'... no one proclaimed either to be an Allstar after 1 game... i don't see anything wrong w/what Pres said... Nate DID kill that game... he was pretty much unstoppable... if u don't agree with that you probably didn't watch the game... he also asked a legitimate question that he posed for hypothetical discussion... notice where he said "IF we keep Nate, SHOULD it change our draft approach"... i have a feeling he meant to get some objective discussion on the topic rather than being ridiculed for posting it... but that's been pretty much the norm around here these days... either you post a ridiculous thread like "I Hate Fred Jones' Face" that inspires absolutely no intelligent discussion whatsoever & be part of the "Knowledgeable Experts" inner circle, or you try & raise some legitimate questions about some of our players & get it thrown back in your face with some moronic half witted reply by someone who prides himself on trying to act intelligent on an internet message forum.

Why would 1 45pt game inspire such a far fetched question? You do realize Nate is under contract for another season right? Meaning he'll be a Knick next yr unless we trade him. I haven't heard anything major about the team wanting to move him besides the mediocre interest Sac may have. So where is Nate going? The draft is in a couple months. So if we don't trade Nate before the draft, which would be stupid anyway(if it's even possible not quite sure) and a bunch of Top prospects guards are on the board is Pres suggesting we come to a fork in the road on who to pick because we don't won't anyone fronting on Nate's 45? Or since Nate is under contract next yr and if we keep him but end up losing him for whatever reason after next yr to FA, do we draft accordingly considering Nate's future 1 1/2yr from now? Is this what Pres was inferring? Then you had the nerve to have follow up posts/threads suggesting Nate's worth possibly a 15th pick. Nate was drafted as a 21rst pick in the 2005 draft, he's done absolutely Nada to increase that value...... well maybe he did with the 45pt game(sarcasm). The thought isn't so way out there but the fact a 45pt game inspired you to create such a thread and for Pres to ask such a question is.


And here's a real crazy double standard for you. Our fans want to gloat Nate's 45pt performance, which I guess is feasible since he is a Knick player and we are Knick fans but some of these same fans want to discredit the Rockets 19 near 24gm win streak, implying it's Flukish and T-Mac's still a Bum regardless of the current success.




[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-10-2008 11:23 PM]

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-10-2008 11:28 PM]

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by TMS:

Nate scored 45... Marcus scored 20... i can understand why some might be more excited about Nate's game over Marcus'... no one proclaimed either to be an Allstar after 1 game... i don't see anything wrong w/what Pres said... Nate DID kill that game... he was pretty much unstoppable... if u don't agree with that you probably didn't watch the game... he also asked a legitimate question that he posed for hypothetical discussion... notice where he said "IF we keep Nate, SHOULD it change our draft approach"... i have a feeling he meant to get some objective discussion on the topic rather than being ridiculed for posting it... but that's been pretty much the norm around here these days... either you post a ridiculous thread like "I Hate Fred Jones' Face" that inspires absolutely no intelligent discussion whatsoever & be part of the "Knowledgeable Experts" inner circle, or you try & raise some legitimate questions about some of our players & get it thrown back in your face with some moronic half witted reply by someone who prides himself on trying to act intelligent on an internet message forum.

Why would 1 45pt game inspire such a far fetched question? You do realize Nate is under contract for another season right? Meaning he'll be a Knick next yr unless we trade him. I haven't heard anything major about the team wanting to move him besides the mediocre interest Sac may have. So where is Nate going? The draft is in a couple months. So if we don't trade Nate before the draft, which would be stupid anyway(if it's even possible not quite sure) and a bunch of Top prospects guards are on the board is Pres suggesting we come to a fork in the road on who to pick because we don't won't anyone fronting on Nate's 45? Or since Nate is under contract next yr and if we keep him but end up losing him for whatever reason after next yr to FA, do we draft accordingly considering Nate's future 1 1/2yr from now? Is this what Pres was inferring? Then you had the nerve to have follow up posts/threads suggesting Nate's worth possibly a 15th pick. Nate was drafted as a 21rst pick in the 2005 draft, he's done absolutely Nada to increase that value...... well maybe he did with the 45pt game(sarcasm). The thought isn't so way out there but the fact a 45pt game inspired you to create such a thread is and Pres to ask such question is.


And here's a real crazy double standard for you. Our fans want to gloat Nate's 45pt performance, which I guess is feasible since he is a Knick player and we are Knick fans but some of these same fans want to discredit the Rockets 19 near 24gm win streak, implying it's Flukish and T-Mac's still a Bum regardless of the current success.




[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-10-2008 11:23 PM]

lol... "I have the nerve"?... yeah, what was i thinking of even contemplating that Nate's trade value may have gone up a few slots this season from where he was originally drafted when he's been having the best season of his short NBA career so far... how foolish of me... i started that thread to ASK your freakin opinion of where you felt his value was... notice the difference, when someone posts a question to gauge perceptions over saying something like "Nate is a borderline lottery pick & you better freakin' agree with me or else"... but i forget, unless i'm making some moronic oomment about Nate's height or Curry's fat rolls, i'm not cool to you... DAMN & i so wanted your approval dude... i really did.

btw, who the F*KK implied that T-Mac was still a bum? don't try & pass off what someone else may have said as something i agree with... i think i made my stance on T-Mac pretty clear to you... ur the one with the history of jumping bandwagons here, not me.

[Edited by - TMS on 03-10-2008 9:36 PM]

Posted by TMS:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by TMS:

Nate scored 45... Marcus scored 20... i can understand why some might be more excited about Nate's game over Marcus'... no one proclaimed either to be an Allstar after 1 game... i don't see anything wrong w/what Pres said... Nate DID kill that game... he was pretty much unstoppable... if u don't agree with that you probably didn't watch the game... he also asked a legitimate question that he posed for hypothetical discussion... notice where he said "IF we keep Nate, SHOULD it change our draft approach"... i have a feeling he meant to get some objective discussion on the topic rather than being ridiculed for posting it... but that's been pretty much the norm around here these days... either you post a ridiculous thread like "I Hate Fred Jones' Face" that inspires absolutely no intelligent discussion whatsoever & be part of the "Knowledgeable Experts" inner circle, or you try & raise some legitimate questions about some of our players & get it thrown back in your face with some moronic half witted reply by someone who prides himself on trying to act intelligent on an internet message forum.

Why would 1 45pt game inspire such a far fetched question? You do realize Nate is under contract for another season right? Meaning he'll be a Knick next yr unless we trade him. I haven't heard anything major about the team wanting to move him besides the mediocre interest Sac may have. So where is Nate going? The draft is in a couple months. So if we don't trade Nate before the draft, which would be stupid anyway(if it's even possible not quite sure) and a bunch of Top prospects guards are on the board is Pres suggesting we come to a fork in the road on who to pick because we don't won't anyone fronting on Nate's 45? Or since Nate is under contract next yr and if we keep him but end up losing him for whatever reason after next yr to FA, do we draft accordingly considering Nate's future 1 1/2yr from now? Is this what Pres was inferring? Then you had the nerve to have follow up posts/threads suggesting Nate's worth possibly a 15th pick. Nate was drafted as a 21rst pick in the 2005 draft, he's done absolutely Nada to increase that value...... well maybe he did with the 45pt game(sarcasm). The thought isn't so way out there but the fact a 45pt game inspired you to create such a thread is and Pres to ask such question is.


And here's a real crazy double standard for you. Our fans want to gloat Nate's 45pt performance, which I guess is feasible since he is a Knick player and we are Knick fans but some of these same fans want to discredit the Rockets 19 near 24gm win streak, implying it's Flukish and T-Mac's still a Bum regardless of the current success.




[Edited by - TrueBlue on 03-10-2008 11:23 PM]

lol... "I have the nerve"?... yeah, what was i thinking of even contemplating that Nate's trade value may have gone up a few slots this season from where he was originally drafted when he's been having the best season of his short NBA career so far... how foolish of me... i started that thread to ASK your freakin opinion of where you felt his value was... notice the difference, when someone posts a question to gauge perceptions over saying something like "Nate is a borderline lottery pick & you better freakin' agree with me or else"... but i forget, unless i'm making some moronic oomment about Nate's height or Curry's fat rolls, i'm not cool to you... DAMN & i so wanted your approval dude... i really did.

btw, who the F*KK implied that T-Mac was still a bum? don't try & pass off what someone else may have said as something i agree with... i think i made my stance on T-Mac pretty clear to you... ur the one with the history of jumping bandwagons here, not me.

[Edited by - TMS on 03-10-2008 9:36 PM]

Your timing is impeccable this supposed reasonable inquiry in the wake of his 45pt game performance.

I thought T-Mac was a bum because Isiah drafted him, no?

Posted by TMS:

Posted by sebstar:

I thought T-Mac was a bum because Isiah drafted him, no?

didn't u get the memo? he's 1 of the elite stars in the NBA now... that is until we're discussing Isiah's drafting skills.

I've seen it be applied more so the other way actually.