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3/11/2008  12:13 AM
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but if you're at queens plaza - even if you want to take a cab, from midtown manhattan, it shouldn't cost you more than $20 to get back to the hotel.

You have a cab too?

Not as far as the TLC knows and he wants to keep it that way.

Now you gettin in the cab or what?
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3/11/2008  1:17 AM
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3/11/2008  2:56 AM
Two things I find absolutely shocking in this thread:

1. That midtown is the best place to stay and visit.
2. That you have to stay in Manhattan.

I'll start with point #2:
I am not sure about Long Island but Brooklyn certainly is NOT that far away, especially for $2 (subway). Considering that thousands of people commute an hour from NJ every day for 5x more, a 30min subway ride from BKLN to Manhattan isn't much.
The only negative is late nights. If its 4 in the morning the trains WILL BE RUNNING but if you have to transfer then its a huge pain in the ass cause you could wait up to half an hour for each train. If you're feeling adventurous you could try and walk the Brooklyn Bridge at night. Kind of romantic.

Point #1:
Midtown Manhattan is not the best place. The west side of midtown (meaning west of 5th) is kind of dirty & is always extremely crowded. I would say a day roaming around 5th Ave & Times Square is MORE than enough. I personally hate Times Square. At first I'm sure it's a sight. But if you're passing through every day you pay less attention to the magnitude and more attention to the smell, the crowds, and the tourists (who get in the way).

I really think you should take your gf to a Broadway show - that's one of the few things in Midtown that I wouldn't mind going to (theater district is in Midtown). And she might appreciate the singing and dancing crap more than a sports game.

Another Midtown attraction: The obs deck of the Empire State Building is open until 1AM or so on certain days so if you want something romantic you could look into that (costs about 15-20 bucks per person). The view is amazing but remember the obs deck wasn't built for couples so its not going to be set up like a fancy restaurant.

I'd spend an afternoon in Central Park. You have to appreciate the fact that without CP New York would just be a steel beams and glass.

If you're into Museums - most of them are on Museum Mile (upper half of 5th Ave). IMO the two worth visiting are the Met and the MoMA (53rd btwn 5th & 6th). MoMA is way more chill because the designers decided not to pack it with a bajillion paintings like the Met. The building itself is designed in a better way.

As some other guys said, look for special NY events in April. You could probably get a halfway decent picture of NYers from attending some of these (although most of the people attending will probably be new New Yorkers).

Good luck and have fun.
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3/11/2008  4:25 AM
Posted by metra:

Two things I find absolutely shocking in this thread:

1. That midtown is the best place to stay and visit.
2. That you have to stay in Manhattan.

I'll start with point #2:
I am not sure about Long Island but Brooklyn certainly is NOT that far away, especially for $2 (subway). Considering that thousands of people commute an hour from NJ every day for 5x more, a 30min subway ride from BKLN to Manhattan isn't much.
The only negative is late nights. If its 4 in the morning the trains WILL BE RUNNING but if you have to transfer then its a huge pain in the ass cause you could wait up to half an hour for each train. If you're feeling adventurous you could try and walk the Brooklyn Bridge at night. Kind of romantic.

Point #1:
Midtown Manhattan is not the best place. The west side of midtown (meaning west of 5th) is kind of dirty & is always extremely crowded. I would say a day roaming around 5th Ave & Times Square is MORE than enough. I personally hate Times Square. At first I'm sure it's a sight. But if you're passing through every day you pay less attention to the magnitude and more attention to the smell, the crowds, and the tourists (who get in the way).

I really think you should take your gf to a Broadway show - that's one of the few things in Midtown that I wouldn't mind going to (theater district is in Midtown). And she might appreciate the singing and dancing crap more than a sports game.

Another Midtown attraction: The obs deck of the Empire State Building is open until 1AM or so on certain days so if you want something romantic you could look into that (costs about 15-20 bucks per person). The view is amazing but remember the obs deck wasn't built for couples so its not going to be set up like a fancy restaurant.

I'd spend an afternoon in Central Park. You have to appreciate the fact that without CP New York would just be a steel beams and glass.

If you're into Museums - most of them are on Museum Mile (upper half of 5th Ave). IMO the two worth visiting are the Met and the MoMA (53rd btwn 5th & 6th). MoMA is way more chill because the designers decided not to pack it with a bajillion paintings like the Met. The building itself is designed in a better way.

As some other guys said, look for special NY events in April. You could probably get a halfway decent picture of NYers from attending some of these (although most of the people attending will probably be new New Yorkers).

Good luck and have fun.

I'm in complete agreement here. You voiced a lot of what I said in a previous post. People commute from out of Manhattan all of the time, and I think some were trying to take into consideration that other areas may be less easy to navigate, but we all have our biases.

I pretty much loathe Midtown, and I grew up and have pretty much lived in Manhattan all of my life (although I'm from the Far West Village). I like your recommendations, as they are a nice way to experience "tourist" Manhattan but provide a decent balance within that context. I still haven't had a chance to go to the new MOMA, yet.

FrenchKnicks, if you are in the Times Square area it's worth it to go up to Carnegie Deli to get AT LEAST some of their cheesecake, and perhaps a pastrami or corned beef sandwich that you can only pray stays in one piece (assuming you aren't a vegetarian). It's pretty darn good, but I prefer Katz's pastrami sandwiches. Carnegie still has the most ridiculous cheesecake...yummm.

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3/11/2008  5:13 AM
Those are great recommendations ! I won't miss on those and try to make a schedule for sunny/rainy days. I went to NYC once in 2003, but there are many things I haven't seen yet. I'm sure we'll do the must-see things like the Empire State Building or Liberty Island, but I also want to experience many other things and your advices are perfect for that.

metra - you're absolutely right, my gf would love going to a show in Broadway during that week (especially since I'll take her to MSG and Yankee Stadium already). However, I don't know anything about Broadway shows and how to get tickets for those. We're 24 and 22, if that could help you give us a choice of shows

[Edited by - FrenchKnicks on 03-11-2008 11:16 AM]
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3/11/2008  5:39 AM
Wicked is an awesome show... go see it if u can get tickets.
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3/11/2008  6:54 AM
I should add that my gf is not completely fluent in English, so she might have a hard time understanding the lyrics or things like that. If a certain Broadway comedy is more about the story than the dance or singing, I think we should pass...
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3/11/2008  7:17 AM
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3/11/2008  7:22 AM
FrenchKnicks - 24 & 22? What kinda music you like? Do you guys plan on hitting any night clubs?
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3/11/2008  8:19 AM
Nop, I don't think we'll really get into the night life. Our time in NYC will be pretty short and we wanna really enjoy it as much as we can by doing things we can't really do in Paris. Clubbing is not in our plans for that trip.
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3/11/2008  9:44 AM
Posted by FrenchKnicks:

I should add that my gf is not completely fluent in English, so she might have a hard time understanding the lyrics or things like that. If a certain Broadway comedy is more about the story than the dance or singing, I think we should pass...


Then maybe you should see something like The Lion King (which I'm guess she'd know the story of), which is very visually interesting.
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3/11/2008  9:57 AM
We have the Lion King in Paris and London actually, but you get the idea. I'd like a famous Broadway show for her, visually interesting like you said and with great voice performance...
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3/11/2008  9:58 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

FrenchKnicks - 24 & 22? What kinda music you like? Do you guys plan on hitting any night clubs?

Eny, how the hell did this doublepost... 2 hours apart? lol.
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3/11/2008  10:09 AM
Posted by VDesai:
Posted by FrenchKnicks:

I should add that my gf is not completely fluent in English, so she might have a hard time understanding the lyrics or things like that. If a certain Broadway comedy is more about the story than the dance or singing, I think we should pass...


Then maybe you should see something like The Lion King (which I'm guess she'd know the story of), which is very visually interesting.

lion king is pretty impressive.

but i would also recommend spamalot which was pretty funny.
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3/11/2008  10:36 AM
Eny, I thought I replied to your question :)

As for music (if you mean like going to see a band play in a restaurant or a bar), I like rock, jazz and blues.
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3/11/2008  10:57 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by EnySpree:

FrenchKnicks - 24 & 22? What kinda music you like? Do you guys plan on hitting any night clubs?

Eny, how the hell did this doublepost... 2 hours apart? lol.

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3/11/2008  10:58 AM
Posted by FrenchKnicks:

I should add that my gf is not completely fluent in English, so she might have a hard time understanding the lyrics or things like that. If a certain Broadway comedy is more about the story than the dance or singing, I think we should pass...

Like TMS, I second Wicked. Girls seem to love that show. I personally haven't seen it but a lot of my female friends are absolutely in love with it. And to tell you the truth half the time I don't know what the hell they're saying in the shows cause I can't catch the words/singing. I am sure you can find tickets the standard way (through Google or ticketmaster etc). You can also try and by the day of from a discount booth near Times Square called TKTS. The line is always really long and you would probably have to wait for an hour (maybe 2 if you go during a really bad time). The discounts are up to 50% but given the time you will spend waiting it might not be worth it.

BTW, I am not sure if Liberty Island would be the coolest place. I might have been there once in 4th grade and it was a nice day off from school but.. you get my point. I'd bet that the Statue of Liberty is one of those landmarks where at most half of New Yorkers have actually been in it.
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3/11/2008  11:03 AM
Yup, I guess we'll just take the ferry that goes around it...
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3/11/2008  11:29 AM
Wicked is a good choice, because if you know the basic story of the Wizard of Oz you should be able to follow along.
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3/11/2008  5:22 PM
Posted by FrenchKnicks:

I should add that my gf is not completely fluent in English, so she might have a hard time understanding the lyrics or things like that. If a certain Broadway comedy is more about the story than the dance or singing, I think we should pass...

Wicked is the backstory on what happens after the Wizard of Oz... if u've seen that movie which probably most everyone in the world already has, u might enjoy it.

other than that i've seen Les Miserables, Cats, Avenue Q & Starlight Express (don't think that's running anymore)... Les Mis might appeal to you since it's about the French Revolution... great singing & production... Cats is more for families & kids, i didn't enjoy it that much... Avenue Q is an adult oriented comedic musical using hand puppets (like a PG-13 rated Sesame Street)... it was pretty hilarious but not sure u will get the humor... i've gotten recommendations from friends to go see The Lion King & Rent also.
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