Posted by TrueBlue:

TKF I'm too lazy to break down your reply but with everything you said Arenas is a hard player to come by and the Wiz are a better team with him on it. You may not like his style of play as a point guard but regardless he's extremely effective at what he does. He gives them the best shot at possibly contending, simply put.

Meanwhile our Knicks still don't have an identity.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-15-2008 12:07 PM]

You may not like his style of play as a point guard but regardless he's extremely effective at what he does. He gives them the best shot at possibly contending, simply put.

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

TKF I'm too lazy to break down your reply but with everything you said Arenas is a hard player to come by and the Wiz are a better team with him on it. You may not like his style of play as a point guard but regardless he's extremely effective at what he does. He gives them the best shot at possibly contending, simply put.

Meanwhile our Knicks still don't have an identity.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-15-2008 12:07 PM]

but meanwhile through 36 games, they are better this year without him than last. I say they are and will be even better once they replace him with a legit PG who will defend and distribute....

You may not like his style of play as a point guard but regardless he's extremely effective at what he does. He gives them the best shot at possibly contending, simply put.

and your basis for this comment is what?

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

TKF I'm too lazy to break down your reply but with everything you said Arenas is a hard player to come by and the Wiz are a better team with him on it. You may not like his style of play as a point guard but regardless he's extremely effective at what he does. He gives them the best shot at possibly contending, simply put.

Meanwhile our Knicks still don't have an identity.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-15-2008 12:07 PM]

but meanwhile through 36 games, they are better this year without him than last. I say they are and will be even better once they replace him with a legit PG who will defend and distribute....

You may not like his style of play as a point guard but regardless he's extremely effective at what he does. He gives them the best shot at possibly contending, simply put.

and your basis for this comment is what?

So you're sample sizing a season schedule and using that as a final conclusion of judgment vs their perennial playoff appearances and advancing with Gilbert playing a large role in season's pasts. OK whatever TKF!

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

TKF I'm too lazy to break down your reply but with everything you said Arenas is a hard player to come by and the Wiz are a better team with him on it. You may not like his style of play as a point guard but regardless he's extremely effective at what he does. He gives them the best shot at possibly contending, simply put.

Meanwhile our Knicks still don't have an identity.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-15-2008 12:07 PM]

but meanwhile through 36 games, they are better this year without him than last. I say they are and will be even better once they replace him with a legit PG who will defend and distribute....

You may not like his style of play as a point guard but regardless he's extremely effective at what he does. He gives them the best shot at possibly contending, simply put.

and your basis for this comment is what?

So you're sample sizing a season schedule and using that as a final conclusion of judgment vs their perennial playoff appearances and advancing with Gilbert playing a large role in season's pasts. OK whatever TKF!

Of course not, but they lost twice to a team in cleveland with less talent they they have, with arenas leading that team.... I think that team with arenas was as good as it is going to get... I would not max that guy out.. I would say, if they make the playoffs without arenas, and so far they are well on their way, I would use that money elsewhere and tell mr. selfish, see you later homie... since he is already talking about opting out... LOL.. what a character that guy is..

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

TKF I'm too lazy to break down your reply but with everything you said Arenas is a hard player to come by and the Wiz are a better team with him on it. You may not like his style of play as a point guard but regardless he's extremely effective at what he does. He gives them the best shot at possibly contending, simply put.

Meanwhile our Knicks still don't have an identity.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-15-2008 12:07 PM]

but meanwhile through 36 games, they are better this year without him than last. I say they are and will be even better once they replace him with a legit PG who will defend and distribute....

You may not like his style of play as a point guard but regardless he's extremely effective at what he does. He gives them the best shot at possibly contending, simply put.

and your basis for this comment is what?

So you're sample sizing a season schedule and using that as a final conclusion of judgment vs their perennial playoff appearances and advancing with Gilbert playing a large role in season's pasts. OK whatever TKF!

Of course not, but they lost twice to a team in cleveland with less talent they they have, with arenas leading that team.... I think that team with arenas was as good as it is going to get... I would not max that guy out.. I would say, if they make the playoffs without arenas, and so far they are well on their way, I would use that money elsewhere and tell mr. selfish, see you later homie... since he is already talking about opting out... LOL.. what a character that guy is..

What a Hypocrite you are TKF. KOME was talking about opting out and announced it during the 1gm of the 2004 Finals against Det and sabatoged the Finals with the Lakers almost getting swept, yet you want the guy pretty bad. LOL KOME goes out during the season courted by the Clippers and tells them move the team to ANAHEIM(closer to where I live) and I'll seriously think about signing with you. SELFISH but that's ok FUCH IT it's KOME!


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-15-2008 3:13 PM]

Posted by nyk4ever:

Well the Wizards are 17-11 without Gilbert this year...

I wouldn't run out and pay Gilbert a ton of money to be my starting PG. I think he's an alright player but to me he's a glorified Jamal Crawford.

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

TKF I'm too lazy to break down your reply but with everything you said Arenas is a hard player to come by and the Wiz are a better team with him on it. You may not like his style of play as a point guard but regardless he's extremely effective at what he does. He gives them the best shot at possibly contending, simply put.

Meanwhile our Knicks still don't have an identity.

[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-15-2008 12:07 PM]

but meanwhile through 36 games, they are better this year without him than last. I say they are and will be even better once they replace him with a legit PG who will defend and distribute....

You may not like his style of play as a point guard but regardless he's extremely effective at what he does. He gives them the best shot at possibly contending, simply put.

and your basis for this comment is what?

So you're sample sizing a season schedule and using that as a final conclusion of judgment vs their perennial playoff appearances and advancing with Gilbert playing a large role in season's pasts. OK whatever TKF!

Of course not, but they lost twice to a team in cleveland with less talent they they have, with arenas leading that team.... I think that team with arenas was as good as it is going to get... I would not max that guy out.. I would say, if they make the playoffs without arenas, and so far they are well on their way, I would use that money elsewhere and tell mr. selfish, see you later homie... since he is already talking about opting out... LOL.. what a character that guy is..

What a Hypocrite you are TKF. KOME was talking about opting out and announced it during the 1gm of the 2004 Finals against Det and sabatoged the Finals with the Lakers almost getting swept, yet you want the guy pretty bad. LOL KOME goes out during the season courted by the Clippers and tells them move the team to ANAHEIM(closer to where I live) and I'll seriously think about signing with you. SELFISH but that's ok FUCH IT it's KOME!


[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-15-2008 3:13 PM]

kobe can be selfish, but kobe wins, he has 3 rings, arenas has zilch.. end of story... unless now you want to start comparing Kobe to arenas? LOL...

honestly, that whole kobe thing was not just kobe, but shaq, lakers management, the whole thing was mishandled....

come on man, be real, if marbury had led the knicks to the finals , you and everyone here would forget the annucha trial, the truck incident, the interns, the crazy comments, all of that! and you know it!!!!

Let's say KOME was more in the right why talk about your contract the first game and have it come as breaking news for Jim Grey to slob on while you're playing in the Finals? He could have been a good teammate until the season was over. Trash anybody you want, while going on your FA crusade. Why during the Finals I mean Malone and Payton did come there taking a paycut to get a ring, whether it was looked at as coattail riding or not what about them?


Principally speaking KOME was more wrong than two left shoes and you know it!!!!!


What about KOME caught on camera this summer telling the Lakers(Buss and Kupchak) to "SHIP HIS ARSE OUT" referring to Bynum in a trade for Kidd? Bynum's having a Hell of A Season this yr BTW. Was that being a good teammate and not selfish TKF? Ahhhh..... I know..... FUCH IT it's KOME!


Now the argument for Arenas goes back to as wily a character as he is, he's a baller and worth holding onto in many respects. You don't like him that's fine but he's a player and a difference maker BAR NONE!
[Edited by - TrueBlue on 01-15-2008 3:55 PM]

Kobe is a difference maker..

where has arenas made a difference? where?

we all know kobe's deal, and he was being a selfish kidd, but this guy is as dedicated a player as there is in the league, and honestly the best player in the game, you may not like it, but guys like that get more leeway...

if you want to compare kobe to arenas, go right ahead, I will leave you with that one bro...

Posted by nyk4ever:

How much of a difference did Gilbert orginally make True? His first year they were 25-57. The next year they added Antawn Jamison and they won 45 games. I don't think Jamison is the difference maker but I really don't think Gilbert is that much of a difference maker either.

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by nyk4ever:

How much of a difference did Gilbert orginally make True? His first year they were 25-57. The next year they added Antawn Jamison and they won 45 games. I don't think Jamison is the difference maker but I really don't think Gilbert is that much of a difference maker either.

Well it takes time and it's hard to be one when you miss 30gms your first yr. He's part of the difference that provides a winning culture. Just like Caron wasn't that much of a difference maker in LA like he has been in Wash. It also takes time for the player to develop into becoming a Top talent which Gil and Caron have.

Posted by tkf:

Posted by TrueBlue:

Posted by nyk4ever:

How much of a difference did Gilbert orginally make True? His first year they were 25-57. The next year they added Antawn Jamison and they won 45 games. I don't think Jamison is the difference maker but I really don't think Gilbert is that much of a difference maker either.

Well it takes time and it's hard to be one when you miss 30gms your first yr. He's part of the difference that provides a winning culture. Just like Caron wasn't that much of a difference maker in LA like he has been in Wash. It also takes time for the player to develop into becoming a Top talent which Gil and Caron have.

the emergence of caron butler is the difference with the wizards. He is a legit two way player who has transformed into a leader.... Butler is a difference maker.. Gilbert is a scorer, he carried the wiz as far as most bad shot taking scorers can take their teams. He is fools gold, time for thw wiz to cut cords with this guy.. will be for the better. Get a real PG, they have butler and jamison, they will be better for it...