Posted by joec32033:

Posted by nysportsfan11:

Kiera's not married and Mully only has one daughter unless he's got some other kid with someone other than Liz that no one's ever heard about. Are you sure it wasn't one of his sons and not a son-in-law? Or his brothers? Because they're all crazy enough to need lawyers.

I can believe that Mully wants to come here, especially since he wanted to be traded to NY his whole career and still has a lot of interests out here. The story doesn't sound too far fetched, except for the son-in-law part.

I really want to be your best friend, nys....

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by nysportsfan11:

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by nysportsfan11:

Kiera's not married and Mully only has one daughter unless he's got some other kid with someone other than Liz that no one's ever heard about. Are you sure it wasn't one of his sons and not a son-in-law? Or his brothers? Because they're all crazy enough to need lawyers.

I can believe that Mully wants to come here, especially since he wanted to be traded to NY his whole career and still has a lot of interests out here. The story doesn't sound too far fetched, except for the son-in-law part.

I really want to be your best friend, nys....

Only if you have a cute sister.

Damn. How about a pic of someone who isn't my sister who I think is hot?

Posted by joec32033:


Curves?

Chris Mullin is not Jerry West but he's at least a huge huge upgrade over Isiah Thomas.

I just cannot believe what I read on this thread. Anyway I guess comments are coming from people who loved Isiah Thomas and thought he was a great GM before the 7 game losing streak...

Just like Thomas, Chris Mullin made his share of blunders :

- Resigning Adonal Foyle for a full max MLE contract

- Overpaying Derek Fisher

- Being played by Jason Richardson and Troy Murphy's agent (who threatened him to tank the Warriors season if they weren't given extensions before the beginning of the season) and giving them a huge extension on their rookie contracts. Really bad thing as Chris Mullin's first intention was to let them enter free agency as restricted free agents and let market dictate their value. As Mullin was a rookie GM, Jason Richardson and Troy Murphy's agent took advantage of it. Mullin knew he couldn't afford to let Murphy and Richardson ruin the season and make him lose his job. He panicked and made a rookie GM mistake.

- Traded a 2007 1st round pick, Luis Flores and Eduardo Najera for Rodney White and Nikoloz Tskitichvili

- Firing a one time coach of the year candidate Eric Musselman and hiring Stanford coach Mike Montgomery (college coaches rarely pan out in the nba)

To be fair, he made all those blunders his first season (2004-2005) and he improved a lot coming from there.

And as I made a list of his mistakes I should also point out the good things he did his first season (including cleaning the mess created by Garry Saint-Jean) :
- Traded Nick Van Exel for Dan Dickau and Dale Davis
- Traded Erick Dampier, Dan Dickau, Evan Ecshmayer, rights to Steve Logan for 2 first round picks and cash, Eduardo Najera, Christian Laettner, rights to Luis Flores
- Traded Speedy Claxton, Dale Davis for Baron Davis

After his first season, I don't think anyone can trash Chris Mullin for the period 2005-2007.
During the season 2005-2006, he didn't make any real move except drafting Taft, Diogu and Ellis. He also waived Rodney White.

He learned a lot from his rookie mistakes and avoided to make another blunder. Kudos to him.
Then the season after that (2006-2007) he made spectacular moves that improved his team and took a leap forward :

- Hiring Don Nelson as Head Coach : huge credit to Chris Mullin, he put his job on the line as owner Chris Cohan had past differences with Nellie and didn't want him back. Chris Mulin lobbied for Nelson and convinced his owner by offering him a deal where Nellie would sign for only one year and then if things worked, he would get an extension. Chris Cohan didn't want to sign a big check to Don Nelson. So Mullin deserves a lot of credit for convining Cohan to eat crow and accept Don Nelson back.
- Got rid of Derek Fisher, traded him to Utah
- Signed Matt Barnes
- Traded Mike Dunleavy, Troy Murphy, Ike Diogu and Keith McLeod for Stephen Jackson, Al Harrington, Sarunas Jasekevicius and Josh Powell

Chris Mullin was named GM of the Golden State Warriors in may 2004. At the time, they had a $52M payroll.

Here's the record of the team the previous season and after :
2003-2004 : 37-45
2004-2005 : 34-48
2005-2006 : 34-48
2006-2007 : 42-40

Now they have a $57M payroll this season.

Under Chris Mullin's reign, the Warriors became a little worse, they were stagnant and then they took off the 3rd season with Don Nelson.

You can see the difference this off-season where Chris Mullin :
- traded Jason Richardson albatross contract to a team under the cap (Charlotte) and got back a large trade exception
- waived Adonal Foyle
- waived Sarunas Jasekevicius
- refused to give Mike Pietrus a large contract or to trade him to the Heat for garbage

While he made similar bad trades and free agency signings like Thomas his first season, the huge difference is that Chris Mullin learned from his previous mistakes and became a much better GM each season.

On the other hand, Isiah Thomas made the same mistakes time and time again : trading one unprotected pick + a protected pick for Marbury his first season and then doing about the same mistake for Curry, giving Jerome James a full max MLE contract and doing the same with Curry one year after, trading expiring or soon expiring contracts for longer contracts, acquired talanted players just because they're available and cheap (Crawford the first season and Zach Randolph 3 years later), trading for similar players than the one we have and duplicate players (trading for Steve Francis to pair him with Marbury and doing the same mistake by acquiring Randolph to pair him with Curry).

I really fail to see how can some people compare Chris Mullin to Isiah Thomas and even dare saying he's a step back ! LOL

Pretty ridiculous. Let's be real and look at the facts instead of keeping a grudge against Mullin because of his awful first season. Anyone can make mistakes, the most important thing is to learn from them. Isiah Thomas has been bashed often on this board by me and other posters not because he made mistakes but because he made the same mistakes over and over again. Kinda depressing to have a GM like that.

Chris Mullin has been a GM for only 3 full seasons, he was in the lottery the first two seasons, compiled a winning record and made the playoffs (for the first time in 12 years for the Warriors) his 3rd season. How can that be looked as a failure ?

This off-season, while we kept our garbage Jerome James, Mullin did not hesitate to waive Adonal Foyle , he acknowledged his original mistake and cleaned his own mess. If you look at Mullin's three seasons at the helm, he's not afraid of trading players he acquired if things don't work and he's not afraid to waive players he signed if he thinks it was a mistake.

And if you take a look at this off-season, from a fiscal perspective, it's pretty well done, Mullin refuses to overpay now.

Think about it. Mullin had a succesful playoff run, lots of other GMs would have kept Richardson and resigned Pietrus to a max 6yr MLE like contract thinking they coudln't afford to lose them for nothing.

I'm not pretending Chris Mullin is a great GM, he's no Jerry West, he's no Donnie Walsh. What I'm saying is Mullin would be a massive upgrade over Thomas and if he was named GM of the Knicks it wouldn't be such a terrible thing. And he has room for improvement as he proved it in Golden State. As GM he's getting better and better each year.

There's no guarantee he will make us far better but there's no guarantee either he will make us worse. I don't mind giving him a chance if Jerry West, Jerry Colangelo or Donnie Walsh are unavailable.

Look at the facts, his track record and history as GM instead of trashing him without knowing what he's done.

Chris Mullin is not the best candidate but he's far from being the worse as some are making him out to be. He's from NY and he's still learning the job. He's a huge upgrade over Isiah Thomas and could prove to be a good GM in NY. Don't act like he's worse than Thomas or it's the end of the world for the Knicks if he's hired.

At this point, I'd say Jimmy Dolan could do a lot worse than Chris Mullin.

Posted by djsunyc:

kosmovitelli on chris mullin:

Chris Mullin is not Jerry West but he's at least a huge huge upgrade over Isiah Thomas.

I just cannot believe what I read on this thread. Anyway I guess comments are coming from people who loved Isiah Thomas and thought he was a great GM before the 7 game losing streak...

Just like Thomas, Chris Mullin made his share of blunders :

- Resigning Adonal Foyle for a full max MLE contract

- Overpaying Derek Fisher

- Being played by Jason Richardson and Troy Murphy's agent (who threatened him to tank the Warriors season if they weren't given extensions before the beginning of the season) and giving them a huge extension on their rookie contracts. Really bad thing as Chris Mullin's first intention was to let them enter free agency as restricted free agents and let market dictate their value. As Mullin was a rookie GM, Jason Richardson and Troy Murphy's agent took advantage of it. Mullin knew he couldn't afford to let Murphy and Richardson ruin the season and make him lose his job. He panicked and made a rookie GM mistake.

- Traded a 2007 1st round pick, Luis Flores and Eduardo Najera for Rodney White and Nikoloz Tskitichvili

- Firing a one time coach of the year candidate Eric Musselman and hiring Stanford coach Mike Montgomery (college coaches rarely pan out in the nba)

To be fair, he made all those blunders his first season (2004-2005) and he improved a lot coming from there.

And as I made a list of his mistakes I should also point out the good things he did his first season (including cleaning the mess created by Garry Saint-Jean) :
- Traded Nick Van Exel for Dan Dickau and Dale Davis
- Traded Erick Dampier, Dan Dickau, Evan Ecshmayer, rights to Steve Logan for 2 first round picks and cash, Eduardo Najera, Christian Laettner, rights to Luis Flores
- Traded Speedy Claxton, Dale Davis for Baron Davis

After his first season, I don't think anyone can trash Chris Mullin for the period 2005-2007.
During the season 2005-2006, he didn't make any real move except drafting Taft, Diogu and Ellis. He also waived Rodney White.

He learned a lot from his rookie mistakes and avoided to make another blunder. Kudos to him.
Then the season after that (2006-2007) he made spectacular moves that improved his team and took a leap forward :

- Hiring Don Nelson as Head Coach : huge credit to Chris Mullin, he put his job on the line as owner Chris Cohan had past differences with Nellie and didn't want him back. Chris Mulin lobbied for Nelson and convinced his owner by offering him a deal where Nellie would sign for only one year and then if things worked, he would get an extension. Chris Cohan didn't want to sign a big check to Don Nelson. So Mullin deserves a lot of credit for convining Cohan to eat crow and accept Don Nelson back.
- Got rid of Derek Fisher, traded him to Utah
- Signed Matt Barnes
- Traded Mike Dunleavy, Troy Murphy, Ike Diogu and Keith McLeod for Stephen Jackson, Al Harrington, Sarunas Jasekevicius and Josh Powell

Chris Mullin was named GM of the Golden State Warriors in may 2004. At the time, they had a $52M payroll.

Here's the record of the team the previous season and after :
2003-2004 : 37-45
2004-2005 : 34-48
2005-2006 : 34-48
2006-2007 : 42-40

Now they have a $57M payroll this season.

Under Chris Mullin's reign, the Warriors became a little worse, they were stagnant and then they took off the 3rd season with Don Nelson.

You can see the difference this off-season where Chris Mullin :
- traded Jason Richardson albatross contract to a team under the cap (Charlotte) and got back a large trade exception
- waived Adonal Foyle
- waived Sarunas Jasekevicius
- refused to give Mike Pietrus a large contract or to trade him to the Heat for garbage

While he made similar bad trades and free agency signings like Thomas his first season, the huge difference is that Chris Mullin learned from his previous mistakes and became a much better GM each season.

On the other hand, Isiah Thomas made the same mistakes time and time again : trading one unprotected pick + a protected pick for Marbury his first season and then doing about the same mistake for Curry, giving Jerome James a full max MLE contract and doing the same with Curry one year after, trading expiring or soon expiring contracts for longer contracts, acquired talanted players just because they're available and cheap (Crawford the first season and Zach Randolph 3 years later), trading for similar players than the one we have and duplicate players (trading for Steve Francis to pair him with Marbury and doing the same mistake by acquiring Randolph to pair him with Curry).

I really fail to see how can some people compare Chris Mullin to Isiah Thomas and even dare saying he's a step back ! LOL

Pretty ridiculous. Let's be real and look at the facts instead of keeping a grudge against Mullin because of his awful first season. Anyone can make mistakes, the most important thing is to learn from them. Isiah Thomas has been bashed often on this board by me and other posters not because he made mistakes but because he made the same mistakes over and over again. Kinda depressing to have a GM like that.

Chris Mullin has been a GM for only 3 full seasons, he was in the lottery the first two seasons, compiled a winning record and made the playoffs (for the first time in 12 years for the Warriors) his 3rd season. How can that be looked as a failure ?

This off-season, while we kept our garbage Jerome James, Mullin did not hesitate to waive Adonal Foyle , he acknowledged his original mistake and cleaned his own mess. If you look at Mullin's three seasons at the helm, he's not afraid of trading players he acquired if things don't work and he's not afraid to waive players he signed if he thinks it was a mistake.

And if you take a look at this off-season, from a fiscal perspective, it's pretty well done, Mullin refuses to overpay now.

Think about it. Mullin had a succesful playoff run, lots of other GMs would have kept Richardson and resigned Pietrus to a max 6yr MLE like contract thinking they coudln't afford to lose them for nothing.

I'm not pretending Chris Mullin is a great GM, he's no Jerry West, he's no Donnie Walsh. What I'm saying is Mullin would be a massive upgrade over Thomas and if he was named GM of the Knicks it wouldn't be such a terrible thing. And he has room for improvement as he proved it in Golden State. As GM he's getting better and better each year.

There's no guarantee he will make us far better but there's no guarantee either he will make us worse. I don't mind giving him a chance if Jerry West, Jerry Colangelo or Donnie Walsh are unavailable.

Look at the facts, his track record and history as GM instead of trashing him without knowing what he's done.

Chris Mullin is not the best candidate but he's far from being the worse as some are making him out to be. He's from NY and he's still learning the job. He's a huge upgrade over Isiah Thomas and could prove to be a good GM in NY. Don't act like he's worse than Thomas or it's the end of the world for the Knicks if he's hired.

At this point, I'd say Jimmy Dolan could do a lot worse than Chris Mullin.

Posted by Allanfan20:

I definitely agree we should get a search thing. I should talk to the mods about this.

Posted by martin:

Posted by Allanfan20:

I definitely agree we should get a search thing. I should talk to the mods about this.

maybe Bip is off creating one right now!