Posted by TrueBlue:
Posted by TMS:
i dunno why you keep repeating all the obvious points that don't have anything to do with what i was asking u to begin with? i just told u i agreed w/u on all that from the very beginning.
we got 20 & 7 from Curry last year & he was still considered to be garbage cuz the team was a sub .500 team... the Blazers are getting 18 & 8 from Aldridge & 18, 5 & 5 from Roy this year & they're still a sub .500 team... yet those players are so clearly better than Curry based on those stat comparisons in your mind... that is what i found curious... this has zero to do w/POR's cap situation, their potential to get better or the value these players have around the league in potential trades.
if u want to tell me i need to watch more POR games in order to see what you're talking about, then fine... i know stats don't tell the whole story, & i already agreed that both those guys are more desirable to have & are already better players than Curry... it's just i get the impression that they're so great while Curry's garbage in your view, & the stat comparisons don't reflect that argument IMO.
Just like Dwight Howard was putting up monster numbers last yr yet Orlando was sub .500(40-42) and made the playoffs largely due to the fact the East was crap. So by your argument which is borderline asinine BTW I guess Howard was crap like Curry because his team wasn't all that good. I already explained we're comparing rookie-2ndyr players to 6-7yr vet. If Aldridge and Roy's numbers stay the same or even improve with steady progression but they fail to make the playoffs in their 6th or 7th yr let's talk TMS. You trying to give Curry a mile leash isn't acceptable. Most players learn/progress in this league by their 3rd or 4rth season not regress in their 7th Good Grief.
the only thing that's assinine was your failure to even comprehend the question i had asked to begin with... did u see Curry hand Howard his lunch head to head last year in games they played or was that my imagination... yet according to you Curry is a complete waste of space & Howard deserves to be enshrined in the basketball HOF... don't put words in my mouth moron... i never said i was giving Curry a mile leash... i said the standards you put on our own players are hardly ever the same that you put on other team's players... if any player on any other team would have had a 20 & 7 year last year, you'd be calling them the second coming of Christ whether they were a 2nd year player, 7th year player, or whatever else.
i don't consider Eddy Curry garbage, just like i don't consider Zach garbage or even Marbury... i think he's lazy & fat, yes, but i also feel he could use some complementary players to get the most out of his game... he does have talent & ability that many young players don't... he doesn't have the right mindset to achieve the fullest of his potential, that much i can agree on, but i don't really see where anyone can say that these 2nd year players are already so clearly in a completely different league than Curry right now... if this team had 1 of those kids & we were still languishing i have a hard time believing you wouldn't feel the same away about them as you do about every player on this team.
[Edited by - TMS on 12-12-2007 1:09 PM]
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.