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The Déjà vu Thread: Knicks vs. 76ers 12/8/2007
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djsunyc
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12/8/2007  9:23 PM
ok...maybe i was wrong...
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BasketballJones
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12/8/2007  9:23 PM
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by nixluva:

Isiah has to go! I'm tired of watching this team underachieve and look lost. There's no motion to the offense. We need to see more penetration and passing. More picks and curls and back cuts. I mean we watch this team run the exact same play the exact same way over and over again and it's so easy for opposing teams to defend it. If the team runs some successful plays their energy would pickup. This guy just sits there and watches and does nothing.

We all know this isn't a great team, but I can watch this and not think that a lot of this is bad coaching. I don't understand what has happened to Isiah. The offense had so much more to it and he seems to be dumbing it down for some reason.

My point is this. If you have guards who can penetrate at will, like Steph, Jamal and Nate and even Jones, why are we not setting more picks and looking for more penetration and kick offense or pick and roll or Pop. Zach would do well in a pick and pop scenario. When the offense is stagnant cuz we're trying to force it into Curry or Zach all we end up with is TO's and bad shots.

What you fail to realize is that Isiah has faced a lot of obstacles since training camp. Zach and Marbs have missed some games. There's been turmoil. We all knew it would take time for Zach 'n Eddy to mesh. No one SAID this would be a championship team. So why are you expecting that now? Why is that Scott Skiles should still be allowed to coach and not Isiah? Some fans on this board think that Isiah should go but I don't think they really have the stomach for what would happen afterwards. If we can win 2 out of the next 3 games, I believe the season can turn around in a hurry.

Thanks for pointing this out. I can't believe these fair-weather fans wanna give up on this team as soon as there is a little diversity. Isiah has put together a good team here, but they've HAD some rough times, and things have been real weird this year. But I still believe that Isiah has a plan. He's brought some good players here, and we're younger than we were. Also, we lost a year with Larry Brown, so it seems to me that we're right on schedule.

As soon as the dust settles, Isiah will right the ship and get this team back on track.
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TrueBlue
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12/8/2007  9:24 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

alot o time let in this game...philly isn't a high octane offense so the knicks can come back.

We're not a high octane offense and we're worse defensively
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TMS
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12/8/2007  9:25 PM
yep, this team has clearly turned a corner this year.
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12/8/2007  9:25 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by nixluva:

Isiah has to go! I'm tired of watching this team underachieve and look lost. There's no motion to the offense. We need to see more penetration and passing. More picks and curls and back cuts. I mean we watch this team run the exact same play the exact same way over and over again and it's so easy for opposing teams to defend it. If the team runs some successful plays their energy would pickup. This guy just sits there and watches and does nothing.

We all know this isn't a great team, but I can watch this and not think that a lot of this is bad coaching. I don't understand what has happened to Isiah. The offense had so much more to it and he seems to be dumbing it down for some reason.

My point is this. If you have guards who can penetrate at will, like Steph, Jamal and Nate and even Jones, why are we not setting more picks and looking for more penetration and kick offense or pick and roll or Pop. Zach would do well in a pick and pop scenario. When the offense is stagnant cuz we're trying to force it into Curry or Zach all we end up with is TO's and bad shots.

What you fail to realize is that Isiah has faced a lot of obstacles since training camp. Zach and Marbs have missed some games. There's been turmoil. We all knew it would take time for Zach 'n Eddy to mesh. No one SAID this would be a championship team. So why are you expecting that now? Why is that Scott Skiles should still be allowed to coach and not Isiah? Some fans on this board think that Isiah should go but I don't think they really have the stomach for what would happen afterwards. If we can win 2 out of the next 3 games, I believe the season can turn around in a hurry.

Thanks for pointing this out. I can't believe these fair-weather fans wanna give up on this team as soon as there is a little diversity. Isiah has put together a good team here, but they've HAD some rough times, and things have been real weird this year. But I still believe that Isiah has a plan. He's brought some good players here, and we're younger than we were. Also, we lost a year with Larry Brown, so it seems to me that we're right on schedule.

As soon as the dust settles, Isiah will right the ship and get this team back on track.

Why can't you make serious posts? Are all your posts meant to be sarcastic?
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djsunyc
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12/8/2007  9:25 PM
TrueBlue
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12/8/2007  9:25 PM
This loss falls squarely on the shoulders of a BACK-TO-BACK!
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BasketballJones
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12/8/2007  9:27 PM
Posted by GKFv2:
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by codeunknown:
Posted by nixluva:

Isiah has to go! I'm tired of watching this team underachieve and look lost. There's no motion to the offense. We need to see more penetration and passing. More picks and curls and back cuts. I mean we watch this team run the exact same play the exact same way over and over again and it's so easy for opposing teams to defend it. If the team runs some successful plays their energy would pickup. This guy just sits there and watches and does nothing.

We all know this isn't a great team, but I can watch this and not think that a lot of this is bad coaching. I don't understand what has happened to Isiah. The offense had so much more to it and he seems to be dumbing it down for some reason.

My point is this. If you have guards who can penetrate at will, like Steph, Jamal and Nate and even Jones, why are we not setting more picks and looking for more penetration and kick offense or pick and roll or Pop. Zach would do well in a pick and pop scenario. When the offense is stagnant cuz we're trying to force it into Curry or Zach all we end up with is TO's and bad shots.

What you fail to realize is that Isiah has faced a lot of obstacles since training camp. Zach and Marbs have missed some games. There's been turmoil. We all knew it would take time for Zach 'n Eddy to mesh. No one SAID this would be a championship team. So why are you expecting that now? Why is that Scott Skiles should still be allowed to coach and not Isiah? Some fans on this board think that Isiah should go but I don't think they really have the stomach for what would happen afterwards. If we can win 2 out of the next 3 games, I believe the season can turn around in a hurry.

Thanks for pointing this out. I can't believe these fair-weather fans wanna give up on this team as soon as there is a little diversity. Isiah has put together a good team here, but they've HAD some rough times, and things have been real weird this year. But I still believe that Isiah has a plan. He's brought some good players here, and we're younger than we were. Also, we lost a year with Larry Brown, so it seems to me that we're right on schedule.

As soon as the dust settles, Isiah will right the ship and get this team back on track.

Why can't you make serious posts? Are all your posts meant to be sarcastic?

You don't like the way I post?
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djsunyc
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12/8/2007  9:28 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by GKFv2:

Why can't you make serious posts? Are all your posts meant to be sarcastic?

You don't like the way I post?

i don't either. you take everything way too seriously.
djsunyc
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12/8/2007  9:30 PM
can we break away to the tnt studios? i'd like to hear what charles barkley thinks about this...
islesfan
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12/8/2007  9:30 PM
Posted by TrueBlue:

This loss falls squarely on the shoulders of a BACK-TO-BACK!

To be fair, the Knicks are playing on back to back nights and are probably a little tired.
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TrueBlue
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12/8/2007  9:30 PM
This is worst than the Boston Loss because Philly isn't "Formidable".


They are toying with us.
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islesfan
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12/8/2007  9:31 PM
Has anybody but Nate attempted a shot for the Knicks in the last 10 minutes?
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BasketballJones
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12/8/2007  9:31 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TrueBlue:

This loss falls squarely on the shoulders of a BACK-TO-BACK!

To be fair, the Knicks are playing on back to back nights and are probably a little tired.

Yes, the back-to-back nights, plus it's been a real weird year.
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islesfan
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12/8/2007  9:31 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TrueBlue:

This loss falls squarely on the shoulders of a BACK-TO-BACK!

To be fair, the Knicks are playing on back to back nights and are probably a little tired.

Yes, the back-to-back nights, plus it's been a real weird year.

And the fans haven't helped either.
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TMS
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12/8/2007  9:32 PM
don't forget the change in climate over the past few weeks couldn't have helped the team's focus.
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12/8/2007  9:33 PM
I'm at homedepot....what is the score?
djsunyc
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12/8/2007  9:33 PM
was tonight a scheduled getaway game?
BasketballJones
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12/8/2007  9:34 PM
Posted by holfresh:

I'm at homedepot....what is the score?

89-67 Philly
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TrueBlue
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12/8/2007  9:34 PM
Posted by islesfan:
Posted by TrueBlue:

This loss falls squarely on the shoulders of a BACK-TO-BACK!

To be fair, the Knicks are playing on back to back nights and are probably a little tired.

ROTFLOL @ this post it was Zesty...... with the same token Philly is on a BACK-TO-BACK also
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The Déjà vu Thread: Knicks vs. 76ers 12/8/2007

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