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93BUICK
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9/13/2007  5:39 PM
Yes! A B-Day win and by far Green's best game as a Met- On Roshashana!
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jazz74
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9/15/2007  1:34 AM
here we go again. how come we can't beat the phillies? we have a hard time batting against their bullpen even though they have one of the worst bullpen in the league. so much for going for the jugular. it seems like they just have our number. maybe it doesn't matter because they most likely won't make the playoffs. but it would be just our luck if they do and they bounced us. or better yet sweep us again and take the division.
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9/15/2007  6:01 PM
I will refrain from using vulgar language although I\'d like too:)

How many 2 run leads are we going to blow to the Phillies? The Mets get that 2 run lead and stop hitting and the bullpen is just a sore spot.

pedro was AWESOME that is a silver lining

we might have to go maine/hernandez wagner 7-8-9 with Pedro Glavine and Perez in the playoffs
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9/15/2007  6:13 PM
BRIGGS- I agree - Pedro was even more than a silver lining- with the lead we have you have to admit that a good outing by Pedro is much better than a really bad one, with the Mets somehow getting a W.
That being said, the past two games have driven me nuts. The Mets are talented, and fun, but they lose too often because of some type of overconfidence, which makes them obvious- espcially at the plate- and I don't like all the Mets players yelling at the Umps even though those calls were so bad- but baseball is such a great game when played by a really diciplined team- and the Philles have been more that way in this 7 game loss streak to them-
I really want that W tomorrow and I bet the Mets do too. Wright's double play - cathing the foul pop up and doubleing the runner-(in yesterday's game) was inspiring in the mist of these losses- he has not lost fire and has been the MVP more than Reyes- who I love- but Reyes has been symbolic of this overconfidence the Mets get sometimes...
Oliver could really help the Mets tomorrow- and it's been a while since an 8 inning or complete game from our starters- who have been excellent otherwise.
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9/16/2007  4:01 PM
Ouch now 10-5 after a pinch hit GS - this is too much to take!
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9/16/2007  5:32 PM
man, i hope i did not jinx my team by saying that they will get swept and lose the division. however half of that statement is right. i never thought that the phillies would sweep us three times in one season and have a 8 game win streak leading until next year ( unless we face them somehow in the playoffs). this is bad but hopefully they must get focused and move on. their schedule is as favorable as you can get for the rest of the month so the division is theirs to lose. if we don't make the playoffs, then i would blame willie randolph. his decision making has cost us last year in the nlcs and it has cost us most of the year. we should be a 100 win team not a team barely breaking 90 wins. when i see reyes and others acting like idiots and celebrating when we won jack s@#$ it makes me angry. this is one of the worst sports weekends ever with the giants also getting spanked BAD. well, i am used to weekends like this. it has happened so many times if you are a new york fan.
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9/16/2007  7:56 PM
Looks like the Mets have gotten past the Atlanta "Jinx" and it has transferred to the Phillies!! Sheeeesh!!
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9/16/2007  8:14 PM
I guess in the realm of things it could be worse. We were 2-4 against the Braves and Philly Philly has beaten us straight up like 9 times in a row yet we have a 3.5 lead and have a nice schedule the rest of the way. My hope is San Diego gets the WC!
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9/16/2007  9:03 PM
93buick - you gotta love the way the Mets ALWAYS keep you on the edge of your seat, even with a comfortable lead you get the impression somebody has a grip on the rug and is ready to yank it right out from under you at any moment.

It's always been that way, dating back to 1962.

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- MSG Usher after game 4 of Miami Series in the year... oh never mind
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9/16/2007  11:04 PM
the losses to philly may only matter if they play each other in the NLCS.

otherwise, for the mets, these losses mean jack. still their NL to lose.
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9/17/2007  12:56 AM
here comes the panic... hahaha.
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9/17/2007  12:57 AM
MisterEarl- I don't gotta love poorly played baseball. Errors and overconfidence is not the way this team wins.
However, I would rather be us 3 1/2 up than them still-
By the way- one thing that really set us back this year was the setback with Joe Smith- remember how good he looked early on? We didn't miss Bradford at all- he was even pitching the 8th for Heilman semi regularly in tight spots- then he hit a wall, and went back to the minors-
He's on the Sept call ups- but I haven't seen him since-
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9/17/2007  8:57 AM
93buick - Remember the important set-up role that Duaner Sanchez filled last season?

His injury was/is a major loss.

Sosa and Mota both need a third pitch. joe Smith is a great story but major league hitters catch on fast. Schoenweis and Sele make me nervous.

The only reliever that feels in control is Feliciano.
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jazz74
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9/18/2007  6:53 AM
Posted by misterearl:

93buick - Remember the important set-up role that Duaner Sanchez filled last season?

His injury was/is a major loss.

Sosa and Mota both need a third pitch. joe Smith is a great story but major league hitters catch on fast. Schoenweis and Sele make me nervous.

The only reliever that feels in control is Feliciano.

now this is getting ridiculous. having a bad bullpen resulted in 10 errors in less than 36 hours? it is baseball fundamentals that all professional teams should have a grasp doing. i think philly and the pressure got to their heads and if that is the case, they are not ready to go to the post season. they should bow out right now and let hungrier teams go in because they are not that type of team now. maybe in the off season when we get rid of randolph and sign pudge and johan santana, we could make a REAL run next year.

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9/18/2007  10:12 PM
not hearing much trashtalking coming from you anymore BRIGGS... what's up? getting a little scurred are we?
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9/19/2007  7:00 AM
not much to say. they are watching themselves get bounced out of the playoffs. what more is there to say? it says something about your manager skills if the players are requesting a team meeting. i am very sour on randolph right now. will we survive through the weekend in first place? not likely.
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9/19/2007  8:07 AM
jazz74 - since when is a player meeting is an indication of a palace revolt?

C'mon, admit it, you were always sour on Willie Randolph

The current Mets struggles just give you an excuse to shout it out loud

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9/19/2007  9:07 AM
Posted by misterearl:

jazz74 - since when is a player meeting is an indication of a palace revolt?

C'mon, admit it, you were always sour on Willie Randolph

The current Mets struggles just give you an excuse to shout it out loud

no, you are misunderstanding about what i am saying. the job of the manager is to have his finger on the pulse of the team and he makes the decision on whether or not to have a meeting. that is what good managers do. they say," hey, the team is floudering. i need a meeting to put them back on track". it seems like willie doesn't know what to do in this situation and the players have to take it upon themselves to say," hey, this is ridiculous. we need a meeting". so to me when players have to ASK their manager for a meeting, that tells you the manager has no idea what to do. oh, that is not true about how i feel about randolph. i thought he did a wonderful job last year and managed smartly. this year it seems he is in over his head. this is a talented team that deserves better.

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9/19/2007  10:20 AM
now i'm an outsider here, but i think this season is 10X better for the mets than last year was.

the division was done in august and there was nothing to play for until the playoffs started.

but now you're seeing pressure games and this will tell you what some of these players are made of.

i would consider this a much more fun season for the mets.

secondly, willie is behaving in the right manner. he needs to maintain a calm (like torre) b/c once you start getting emotional, things can go crazy. young pitchers are getting tired, and he's had a bad bullpen all year. this ain't willie's fault. but i would say there may be a bias for some since he basically is a yankee running the mets ship.
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9/19/2007  11:08 AM
one question about lo duca:

he was your #2 hitter last year (granted it seemed like last year's .318 was a career year) and this season, he's batting as low as #7 and willie keeps switching him out.

what's the explanation?
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